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Today battle : Battle of marathon 490 BC

Today battle mark the first of Greek Invasion by the Persian and also almost always looked at the birth of Western Civilization. Without this battle and the significances of the outcome, the western world could be ended up rules by the Persian, and in latter days, Arabian.

This battle also bought to a legend still around today, and have a tremendous impact on one of the modern sporting event. The Marathon.

History of the Battle : The fuse had been set about 10 years prior to said battle. When the Greek finance and help the Ionia revoke from Persian rules. After 7 hard years of fighting, the Persian have finally crushed the Ionian Revolt and in 3 years time, their eyes is now set on the Athenian who, helped orchestrated the revolt.

Fresh coming back from a regroup is the Athenian who at the most can only field a smaller but relatively effective army. With their back against the sea, it's either a war in Athens itself or they need to score a decisive outcome on the first meeting in Marathon.

Coming from s string of military success and topple the revolt is the Persian. The Persian had raise a strong army but in it the majority is levies.

Deposition of Forces :

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The Greece consist of 10 Infantry column and 1000 Infantry with each column. That's totalling 10,000 for the force, without cavalry, they are positioned on the edge of wooded path to the South of City of Marathon.

The Persian does not have an exact combat number, with 600 invading galleon invading with a large formation. However, history suggested that not all of the campaign force are used to fight in this battle. Some were diverted on the eve of battle, which ultimately trigger this battle itself.

Common believe is there are 25,000 light infantry and 1000 cavalry on the beachhead.

Tactical consideration

There are only 1 tactical objective on Greece side. That is to pin the Persian Force as long as they can on the plateau of Marathon before their Spartan allied reach Greece and help out with the defences. There are no more troop and the Battle of Marathon is a tactical gamble. By drawing the enemy on a easier plateau fight rather than the defence of Athens. The Greek sort of tempting the Persian to try and destroy their force in Marathon, rather risking a fight in the city of Athens.

overall tactical objective for Greek troop are to defend the City of Marathon as long as they can.

However there are no Tactical Objective on the Persian side, they have 1 single Strategic Objective, that is Athens itself. Their goal is to wage a war in Athens and occupy the city. The plateau fight is literally a sucker fight to Persian, maybe to them, it's a chance to chalk up some victory and kill some Athenian before the main battle piece

Start of Battle : After a 5 days stalemate it's the Greece that make the first move. Even thought they are fighting in a defensive posture.

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While the Greek centre make way to cover the gap between them and the Persian, the flank of the Greek force pull up on a wedge and striking the flank of the Persian, which is protected by cavalry.

With heavy flank on both Greek flank crashing on the light Persian flank of 1000 cavalry the cavalry buckle, some got grind away while some dispensed from the fight and took off, thus leaving the Persian Flank wide open

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While the main body of the Persian troop hold out to the thinner line of the Greek Centre, the flank took off ensure a double envelopment from both of the Greek flank and using the Greek hoplite fix the main Persian force to engage, a simple double envelopment rolled up both Persian flank. The battle is over even before the Spartan join the fray, which is supposed to be 5 days after the start of battle.

Importance of This battle : This battle have 1 single importance toward the Ancient Greek, not only is it a victory against a superior force (Greek Troop are outnumber 1:3 and without cavalry) While it's a military victory no less, the most important aspect is the Greek hold the Persian long enough for Spartan to reinforce their defence.

OF course a win in this also mean there are more Greek troop and a more favorable situation. While it's now believe that the Persian are actually moving the bulk of the troop back into the ship in order to run them at Athens, the Persian leave a token force to try and pin the Greek Force in marathon while the bulk of the troop is re-route to Athens and try o take the undefended city.

What gone wrong with the Persian? : Basically, everything can go wrong in the military tactics front has gone wrong for the Persian.

First of all, they wait. Where the clear goal is for Persian to invade and capture Marathon, it's the Athenian job to defend, not them, everyday you wait, you let the defender growth both in number and up their fortification everyday, plus, the Persian should know the Spartan will undoubled be involve in the Invasion of Greece. Everyday the Persian wait is a day back away from the victory.
For an invasion force, you need to attack before your enemy set up credible defence.

Second of all, the Persian committed to a battle then back away the commitment and in favor fighting another battle. While there are no history recording why the Greece took the first step and make the initiation. Reason behind this, historian believe it was because on the fifth day (The start of battle) of siege, the Persian realise they are facing the whole Athenian Force there are right before them. They realise if they were to re-embark on the ship, they can most certainly get to Athens before they can return to defend their city. Thus they repack their horse (Which is the most difficult) first and repack some of the infantryman back into the ship and set sail on Athens, leaving behind a token force (25,000/200,000 invasion force) to either buy time for the Persian to get to Athens first or even try to inflict a defeat by number from the token force, which is still consider bigger than the defending force.

This idea, by itself is relative stupid. If you are to fight a battle, you move according to the plan you figure out. if at the last minutes you change your plan, you cannot really depend on your force to adjust immediately, just like that. Fight them, then you need to use your original plan and fight them on the original term, if you don't want to fight them, then disengage. No point lay out a plan to engage and then back out and leave some of the force behind......

The third things the Persian done wrong is, they did not try to capitalise the situation and try to establish a longer line, thus envelope the Greek using their superior number but rather fight a front on war with flank weaker than the Greek.

While the Greek Troop are fighting for everything, their troop are fighting to conquer, the Greek have everything to lose if they lost this battle but there are nothing lost in Persian term as there are more Persian where they are coming from. The morale is different between the 2 case, and the will to fight is different. Especially when the Greek are better armoured than the Persian soldier, you do not go fight a grinding battle with enemy in better armor and better motivation. You round them over, and fight them on all size, the Persian have the necessary number to do that but they didn't. This is a probably carry over by the unclear objective of the man. Which contributed by the 2nd problem.

The forth and last things gone wrong was, The Persian let the Greek Take control of the battle and from the Greek initiate an attack, from that moment on, all Persian did was reacting to the Athenian move. Again, this is the golden rule of battlefield, if you are a smaller guy, you need to lead your bigger partner to dance, not the other way around. You let the smaller guy initiate action first, all you can do is to react to their move, not making your own move.

In short, if Persian want to win this battle, they should fight with their original plane, and attack immediately. Overwhelm the Greece and attack, attack, attack. It does not matter if Athens itself is unguarded, you face the whole Greek army there, if you defeat them, Athens will still continue to be unguarded, you do not need to take advantage of this and move back most of the troop.

If you want to fight, commit everything you got, if you don't want to fight, take everything back where it belong. No point doing this half arse.

Legend of Marathon : This battle give birth to a legend that although it's not true in itself, it's create a very profound effect toward the later generation. And even today, the legend is being keep alive on many of minor sporting event and one giant sporting event called "the Olympic"

Legend has it, after the Greek defeated the Persian on coast of Marathon. The Persian heading for Athens next, unless somehow the news of the defeat going back to Athens before the Persian Arrive, the Athenian may surrendered under the pressure of the Persian Force, so after 3 days of fighting, the Greek send their best runner Pheidippides to run from Marathon and back to Athens before the Persians arrive. He did the 26 modern mile journey in 3 hours and tell the news to the empire, afterward, collapse and died on the spot.

This event is untrue as Pheidippides did not run the marathon length after the battle. HE did, however, run to Sparta and ask for help before the start of battle and the Greek force are marching in extreme speed aimed to go back to Athens to defend the unguarded city. However, when the word comes out, people mixed up the 2 event and the legend was born.

Although untrue, when the first ever Olympic game were being organise, organiser from Greek were trying to include a event so significant to Athens so to boost the popularity of the event, and ultimately choose the Marathon Legend.
 
The main thing wrong with the persians was they had no answer to the heavily armed hoplite infantry in close combat.Their light armed infantry with wicker shields and spears and minimal armour were no match for greek linothorax cuirass,hoplon round shield,corinthian helmet and greaves.
The greeks neutralized the persians main advantage in missile troops[persians were famed for archery]by charging the final distance 150 yards[range of a persian bow] when approaching the persian army so the persians could only get a minimum amount of arrows off.
Another persian fault was they sent the one part of their force that was actually superior,their cavalry away.
Militades the athenian commander was familiar with persian tactics and knew the persians always put their best troops [the iranians and saka mercenaries in the centre] while unenthusiastic levies on the flanks.
So he on purpose thinned his centre while strengthening his flanks with orders to his flank not to pursue the levies after breaking them but to wheel inwards and sarround the persian centre.

Now as to why the battle occured.The 2 armies faced off each other for 4 days.Each had good reason to wait.For the athenians each day brought the aid of sparta and his crack hoplites closer.With the end of the religious festival carneia on 12th august the spartans would march probably arriving at 15th.Moreover given the expanse of the plain of marathon it didn't make tactical sense to march out of their fortified camp and engage the mobile persian cavalry where it could manuevre.

For the persians initially they belived all they had to wait for a signal of a polished bronze shield from within the city,which would indicate the fifth coloumn had succeeded.Then they would leave a small force in marathon and sail with the bulk for athens.Also the persians didn't want to assault the fortified athenian camp directly.

By 11th however time was running out for the persians,no shield signal had been seen and sparta was to march on the 12th.The arrival of the spartan reinforcements would drastically alter the balance of power in marathon.As a result persians began to embark their troops on ships to sail for athens the next morning.Even without shield signal they could expect help from within the city if the athenian army was away.The mebarked force included the bulk of the cavalry which would make a dash for athens.Leaving behind artaphanes the persian commander at marathonw ith 15000-20000 troops ,almost completely infantry.
But the athenians were alerted to the plan by sympathetic ionian greeks in persian service.They sent a famous message-'the cavalry is away'.
Now the athenians[11000] gave battle due to 3 reasons-
1]The persians had divided their forces and the odds were now much better.The main persian threat the cavalry was not present.
2]If they decided to return to athens they were afraid of treachery in midst of a city battle.
3]They reasoned if they could defeat the persians quickly they could then force march along the coastal road and arrive before the persian assault force.
Thus they decided to attack at dawn.
 


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With the respective equipment you can clearly see the persian disadvantage in a close quarter infantry slugfest.

Only the persian elite troops in the centre would have had armour of any value,the levies on the flanks would be light troops.
 
Why did'nt Persians they use archers on the Greeks? And seriously why play the waiting game when you outnumber the opponent 3:1. OMG the Greeks did'nt even have cavalry
 
Why did'nt Persians they use archers on the Greeks? And seriously why play the waiting game when you outnumber the opponent 3:1. OMG the Greeks did'nt even have cavalry

Because they would have had to attack a fortified camp on a hill,where their cavalry would have been useless and infantry at a disadvantage and also because they thought they would get signal from fifth coloumn inside the city.Thats why they waited.

As to why they didn't use archers?They did.Greeks nullified the advantge by sprinting last 150 yards[range of persian bow] so they had minimal time to release arrows before both sides engaged in close combat.Heavy greek armour/shield also gave them excellent protection against projectiles.
 
The main thing wrong with the persians was they had no answer to the heavily armed hoplite infantry in close combat.Their light armed infantry with wicker shields and spears and minimal armour were no match for greek linothorax cuirass,hoplon round shield,corinthian helmet and greaves.
The greeks neutralized the persians main advantage in missile troops[persians were famed for archery]by charging the final distance 150 yards[range of a persian bow] when approaching the persian army so the persians could only get a minimum amount of arrows off.
Another persian fault was they sent the one part of their force that was actually superior,their cavalry away.
Militades the athenian commander was familiar with persian tactics and knew the persians always put their best troops [the iranians and saka mercenaries in the centre] while unenthusiastic levies on the flanks.
So he on purpose thinned his centre while strengthening his flanks with orders to his flank not to pursue the levies after breaking them but to wheel inwards and sarround the persian centre.

Now as to why the battle occured.The 2 armies faced off each other for 4 days.Each had good reason to wait.For the athenians each day brought the aid of sparta and his crack hoplites closer.With the end of the religious festival carneia on 12th august the spartans would march probably arriving at 15th.Moreover given the expanse of the plain of marathon it didn't make tactical sense to march out of their fortified camp and engage the mobile persian cavalry where it could manuevre.

For the persians initially they belived all they had to wait for a signal of a polished bronze shield from within the city,which would indicate the fifth coloumn had succeeded.Then they would leave a small force in marathon and sail with the bulk for athens.Also the persians didn't want to assault the fortified athenian camp directly.

By 11th however time was running out for the persians,no shield signal had been seen and sparta was to march on the 12th.The arrival of the spartan reinforcements would drastically alter the balance of power in marathon.As a result persians began to embark their troops on ships to sail for athens the next morning.Even without shield signal they could expect help from within the city if the athenian army was away.The mebarked force included the bulk of the cavalry which would make a dash for athens.Leaving behind artaphanes the persian commander at marathonw ith 15000-20000 troops ,almost completely infantry.
But the athenians were alerted to the plan by sympathetic ionian greeks in persian service.They sent a famous message-'the cavalry is away'.
Now the athenians[11000] gave battle due to 3 reasons-
1]The persians had divided their forces and the odds were now much better.The main persian threat the cavalry was not present.
2]If they decided to return to athens they were afraid of treachery in midst of a city battle.
3]They reasoned if they could defeat the persians quickly they could then force march along the coastal road and arrive before the persian assault force.
Thus they decided to attack at dawn.

Actually they have stuff that can crash those hoplite but the pack them away in the last minute, this is also thought to trigger the battle

I would have to say the Main thing the Persian done wrong is set foot on the marathon plateau, when their goal is to conquer Greek. There are nothing to gain by having a defeat in number (assume they don't know the Marathon defender is the whole army of Greek) in battle of Marathon

As I said there are no tactical objective for Persian in battle of marathon. They are just there to fight a battle, without any goal or objective beside neutralising the garrison

There are many reason or theory historian speculate why the Greek act first.

The most probable one being The Persian realise that the force they faced for 4 and a half day is the entire army of Greece, thus they want to redirect and capture the city of Athens when they are off guarded. However, by doing so, they need to redeploy their force to show that Persian sympathiser in Greece that they are about to take a undefended town and they would surrender.

However, the moment, they redeploy their troop, the Ionian faction of Persian camp send out a signal of sort to notified that the Cavalry is gone (Cavalry were to only weapon the Persian have to counter the Greek Hoplite) and seeing this tactical deficiency, the Greek reckon they can just small their heavy armor guy with the small guy. Hence make the first move.

And finally, I think the Persian is not aggressive enough, they are the attacker, they cannot afforded to be patient. Yes, they also have the reason to wait, but by waiting they draw the Spartan closer and they will come face a better fortified army, the disadvantage of waiting out-weight the advantage of making the first move.



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With the respective equipment you can clearly see the persian disadvantage in a close quarter infantry slugfest.

Only the persian elite troops in the centre would have had armour of any value,the levies on the flanks would be light troops.

I think the bulk of the Persian troop is light missile troop, not a close quarter troop.

Why did'nt Persians they use archers on the Greeks? And seriously why play the waiting game when you outnumber the opponent 3:1. OMG the Greeks did'nt even have cavalry

They did use their archer, by close in attack the greek hoplite.

Greek Hoplite are fully armoured. Archer in range does not do much damage to them. Historian suggest that the Greek either march to the edge of the Persian archer range and then quick paced and smash into the Persian infantry. or they were march un-formatted until the outside range of the Persian Archer and then forma shield wall and brace the archer attack. Either way, it would have render the range weapon useless.

Actually, at the beginning of battle, the Persian outnumber the Greek at least 20 to 1 but they wind down the force before the actual engagement occur.

Persian also do not want a direct engagement in Marathon, it's widely believe that the force in Marathon is to pin down the Greek force so they can march into Athens and take Athens. Hence both side decided to wait out

Because they would have had to attack a fortified camp on a hill,where their cavalry would have been useless and infantry at a disadvantage and also because they thought they would get signal from fifth coloumn inside the city.Thats why they waited.

As to why they didn't use archers?They did.Greeks nullified the advantge by sprinting last 150 yards[range of persian bow] so they had minimal time to release arrows before both sides engaged in close combat.Heavy greek armour/shield also gave them excellent protection against projectiles.

They would have and should have sieze Athens from the get go, landing in Marathon achieve nothing to them but buy time so the Persian Synthetiser can revolt. They should either have a defeat in number on Marathon or Sail straight to Athens using their number. Do bear in mind, Greek Hoplite lack of vision (Because of the helmet design) also render them vulnerable to flanking attack and not suitable for urban fighting.


Those guy on this program act like little twat, they deserve to lose the Battle of Marathon :lol:
 
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I researched on the web whether esther had a hand in the greek wars and apparently she did !

The main thing wrong with the persians was they had no answer to the heavily armed hoplite infantry in close combat.Their light armed infantry with wicker shields and spears and minimal armour were no match for greek linothorax cuirass,hoplon round shield,corinthian helmet and greaves.
The greeks neutralized the persians main advantage in missile troops[persians were famed for archery]by charging the final distance 150 yards[range of a persian bow] when approaching the persian army so the persians could only get a minimum amount of arrows off.
Another persian fault was they sent the one part of their force that was actually superior,their cavalry away.
Militades the athenian commander was familiar with persian tactics and knew the persians always put their best troops [the iranians and saka mercenaries in the centre] while unenthusiastic levies on the flanks.
So he on purpose thinned his centre while strengthening his flanks with orders to his flank not to pursue the levies after breaking them but to wheel inwards and sarround the persian centre.

Now as to why the battle occured.The 2 armies faced off each other for 4 days.Each had good reason to wait.For the athenians each day brought the aid of sparta and his crack hoplites closer.With the end of the religious festival carneia on 12th august the spartans would march probably arriving at 15th.Moreover given the expanse of the plain of marathon it didn't make tactical sense to march out of their fortified camp and engage the mobile persian cavalry where it could manuevre.

For the persians initially they belived all they had to wait for a signal of a polished bronze shield from within the city,which would indicate the fifth coloumn had succeeded.Then they would leave a small force in marathon and sail with the bulk for athens.Also the persians didn't want to assault the fortified athenian camp directly.

By 11th however time was running out for the persians,no shield signal had been seen and sparta was to march on the 12th.The arrival of the spartan reinforcements would drastically alter the balance of power in marathon.As a result persians began to embark their troops on ships to sail for athens the next morning.Even without shield signal they could expect help from within the city if the athenian army was away.The mebarked force included the bulk of the cavalry which would make a dash for athens.Leaving behind artaphanes the persian commander at marathonw ith 15000-20000 troops ,almost completely infantry.
But the athenians were alerted to the plan by sympathetic ionian greeks in persian service.They sent a famous message-'the cavalry is away'.
Now the athenians[11000] gave battle due to 3 reasons-
1]The persians had divided their forces and the odds were now much better.The main persian threat the cavalry was not present.
2]If they decided to return to athens they were afraid of treachery in midst of a city battle.
3]They reasoned if they could defeat the persians quickly they could then force march along the coastal road and arrive before the persian assault force.
Thus they decided to attack at dawn.

Actually according to Wikipedia , the greek phalanx was an example of a human wave attack while Persian warfare was combined warfare

@ jhungary , Greece wasn't the only objective in the Persian campaigne , Ukraine was attacked too
 
The army sent to marathon was punitive campaign solely against athens,not to conquer whole of greece.Nor did they face the whole army of greece.only athenians and plataeans.
The campaign to conquer greece would be unleashed under darius's son xerxes/ahasereus a few decades later.Esther btw was xerxes's wife,so she cold have nothing to do with this marathon expedition.Darius sent the expedition to destroy athens as a punishment for sending aid to ionian rebels in the ionian revolt a few years earlier.
 
Here I googled esther and greek wars for you :

https://www.google.com/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=esther+greek+wars&oq=esther+greek+wars&gs_l=hp.3..0l4.3342.6219.0.6366.17.10.0.0.0.1.1410.3226.5-1j0j2.3.0...0.0...1c.1.12.psy-ab.fkUXqF4StPA&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.46340616,d.cGE&fp=eac06512f269e72f&biw=1920&bih=985

The army sent to marathon was punitive campaign solely against athens,not to conquer whole of greece.Nor did they face the whole army of greece.only athenians and plataeans.
The campaign to conquer greece would be unleashed under darius's son xerxes/ahasereus a few decades later.Esther btw was xerxes's wife,so she cold have nothing to do with this marathon expedition.Darius sent the expedition to destroy athens as a punishment for sending aid to ionian rebels in the ionian revolt a few years earlier.

well , to some extent , but modern historians agree that when Persians crossed into Europe they didn't only fight greeks but tribes in modern day Ukraine , remains of Persian expedition into Ukraine have actually been found by actual historians and archeologists...

.Esther btw was xerxes's wife,so she cold have nothing to do with this marathon expedition..

Not the marathon expedition but the whole greek wars...
 
Yes persian army attacked thrace as well.Under xerxes they occupied macedonia for a while.

Thank you for acknowledging that fact , cause it is so implied that the sole objective of the greek wars were to punish the greeks .

It is also noteworthy that unlike greeks , achamenids wore their armor under clothes , to trick the enemy , at least the immortals did
 
Tomb of Darius the Great

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Aftermath

The defeat at Marathon ended for the time being the Persian invasion of Greece.

However, Thrace and the Cycladic islands had been absorbed into the Persian empire, and Macedon reduced to a Persian vassal. Darius was still fully intent on conquering Greece, to secure the western part of his empire. Moreover, Athens remained unpunished for its role in the Ionian Revolt, and both Athens and Sparta were unpunished for their treatment of the Persian ambassadors.

Darius therefore began raising a huge new army with which he meant to completely subjugate Greece; however, in 486 BCE, his Egyptian subjects revolted, indefinitely postponing any Greek expedition. Darius then died whilst preparing to march on Egypt, and the throne of Persia passed to his son Xerxes I. Xerxes crushed the Egyptian revolt, and very quickly restarted the preparations for the invasion of Greece. This expedition was finally ready by 480 BCE, and the second Persian invasion of Greece thereby began, under the command of Xerxes himself.
 

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