Baidu, Pony AI granted China’s first licences to charge passengers for self-driving taxis in Beijing

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China grants first ‘robotaxi’ licences to two operators in Beijing

Baidu and Pony AI became the first companies to be approved by mainland Chinese authorities to launch their autonomous cab services commercially following successful trial periods.

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• The two companies can now charge fees for their so-called robotaxis in a designated area of the capital covering 60 sq km
• The taxis will have a human ‘security officer’ behind the wheel, ready to intervene if necessary

Two operators including Chinese internet search giant Baidu have been given the green light to start charging passengers to use their autonomous taxis in Beijing.
Baidu and Pony AI became the first companies to be granted licences by mainland Chinese authorities to launch their driverless cab services commercially following successful trial periods.

On Thursday, the Beijing High-level Automated Driving Demonstration Area gave permission for Baidu and Pony AI to charge fees for their so-called robotaxis in a designated area of the capital covering 60 square kilometres.
The plan, according to an announcement from Baidu, is to expand the service rapidly.

“With the successful trial operation of Baidu’s Apollo Go commercial service, both the number of autonomous cars and the area of operation are due to expand further to meet the needs of local commuters, setting a foundation for the wider and more rapid development of commercialised autonomous driving within China,” Baidu said in a statement.

Passengers who feel uneasy about the prospect of an algorithm getting them safely from A to B need fear not: the taxis will have a human “security officer” behind the wheel, ready to intervene if necessary.

Baidu started running its driverless cabs on a trial basis in September last year. It will operate a fleet of 67 autonomous vehicles zipping between more than 600 pickup and drop-off points within the Beijing Economic and Technological Development Zone, part of the permitted area. The service will be available from 7am to 10pm, and passengers can use the Apollo Go app to hail a ride.

The two companies have yet to unveil the fees they will charge passengers. Analysts predicted the rates would be similar to those of traditional taxis.

Pony AI is an autonomous driving technology company founded in late 2016 by James Peng and Lou Tiancheng, formerly two key developers and engineers at Baidu’s self-driving unit.

Pony started testing its robotaxis in Beijing in May this year.

“China is taking a step forward in exploring autonomous driving now that dozens of companies are engaging with development of key technologies to gain an ascendancy in the future of mobility,” said David Zhang, a researcher for the automotive industry at the North China University of Technology. “But the authorities will still take a cautious stance by expanding the pilot project step by step.”

In August 2016 NuTonomy in the US became the first company worldwide to make robotaxis available to the public, offering rides with a fleet of six modified Renault Zoes and Mitsubishi i-MiEVs in a limited area of Singapore.

A year later, Cruise Automation, a start-up acquired by General Motors, launched the beta version of a robotaxi service for its employees in San Francisco using a fleet of 46 Chevrolet Bolt electric vehicles (EVs).
In China, several carmakers including Tesla and smart EV start-up Xpeng Motors are offering customers driver-assistant systems, a preliminary technology to full self-driving.

Most of the technologies use “environment detection” sensors that can help a vehicle decide whether to pass a slow-moving car, but the process still requires human intervention.
They are classified as level 2 (L2) or L2+, according to a classification system published by the standardisation body SAE International.

Full automation, without the need for any human intervention, is L5.
Baidu launched Apollo, the world’s largest open-source autonomous driving platform four years ago, inviting dozens of carmakers, component suppliers and technology firms to develop next-generation vehicles.

Unlike other strong advocates for autonomous driving, Baidu pivots its approach from vehicle-only technologies to smart infrastructure.
The company has set itself a goal of expanding Apollo Go operations into 65 cities across China by 2025 and 100 cities by 2030.

Analysts said Shanghai would probably be the next mainland city to allow robotaxi service providers to tap passengers’ appetite for driverless cars.

 

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China grants first ‘robotaxi’ licences to two operators in Beijing

Baidu and Pony AI became the first companies to be approved by mainland Chinese authorities to launch their autonomous cab services commercially following successful trial periods.

www.scmp.com

• The two companies can now charge fees for their so-called robotaxis in a designated area of the capital covering 60 sq km
• The taxis will have a human ‘security officer’ behind the wheel, ready to intervene if necessary

Two operators including Chinese internet search giant Baidu have been given the green light to start charging passengers to use their autonomous taxis in Beijing.
Baidu and Pony AI became the first companies to be granted licences by mainland Chinese authorities to launch their driverless cab services commercially following successful trial periods.

On Thursday, the Beijing High-level Automated Driving Demonstration Area gave permission for Baidu and Pony AI to charge fees for their so-called robotaxis in a designated area of the capital covering 60 square kilometres.
The plan, according to an announcement from Baidu, is to expand the service rapidly.

“With the successful trial operation of Baidu’s Apollo Go commercial service, both the number of autonomous cars and the area of operation are due to expand further to meet the needs of local commuters, setting a foundation for the wider and more rapid development of commercialised autonomous driving within China,” Baidu said in a statement.

Passengers who feel uneasy about the prospect of an algorithm getting them safely from A to B need fear not: the taxis will have a human “security officer” behind the wheel, ready to intervene if necessary.

Baidu started running its driverless cabs on a trial basis in September last year. It will operate a fleet of 67 autonomous vehicles zipping between more than 600 pickup and drop-off points within the Beijing Economic and Technological Development Zone, part of the permitted area. The service will be available from 7am to 10pm, and passengers can use the Apollo Go app to hail a ride.

The two companies have yet to unveil the fees they will charge passengers. Analysts predicted the rates would be similar to those of traditional taxis.

Pony AI is an autonomous driving technology company founded in late 2016 by James Peng and Lou Tiancheng, formerly two key developers and engineers at Baidu’s self-driving unit.

Pony started testing its robotaxis in Beijing in May this year.

“China is taking a step forward in exploring autonomous driving now that dozens of companies are engaging with development of key technologies to gain an ascendancy in the future of mobility,” said David Zhang, a researcher for the automotive industry at the North China University of Technology. “But the authorities will still take a cautious stance by expanding the pilot project step by step.”

In August 2016 NuTonomy in the US became the first company worldwide to make robotaxis available to the public, offering rides with a fleet of six modified Renault Zoes and Mitsubishi i-MiEVs in a limited area of Singapore.

A year later, Cruise Automation, a start-up acquired by General Motors, launched the beta version of a robotaxi service for its employees in San Francisco using a fleet of 46 Chevrolet Bolt electric vehicles (EVs).
In China, several carmakers including Tesla and smart EV start-up Xpeng Motors are offering customers driver-assistant systems, a preliminary technology to full self-driving.

Most of the technologies use “environment detection” sensors that can help a vehicle decide whether to pass a slow-moving car, but the process still requires human intervention.
They are classified as level 2 (L2) or L2+, according to a classification system published by the standardisation body SAE International.

Full automation, without the need for any human intervention, is L5.
Baidu launched Apollo, the world’s largest open-source autonomous driving platform four years ago, inviting dozens of carmakers, component suppliers and technology firms to develop next-generation vehicles.

Unlike other strong advocates for autonomous driving, Baidu pivots its approach from vehicle-only technologies to smart infrastructure.
The company has set itself a goal of expanding Apollo Go operations into 65 cities across China by 2025 and 100 cities by 2030.

Analysts said Shanghai would probably be the next mainland city to allow robotaxi service providers to tap passengers’ appetite for driverless cars.

Well, even with driver assistant AI, it can lower the fatigue that we get accumulated when we drive in a long journey with our car. With AI, we can give the drive to it when we rest, and we can intervene when it need to get intervened.

Maybe for driverless Robotaxi, the passenger should be able to intervene when the AI do something stupid / endanger the car or the human passengers.

 

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Maybe for driverless Robotaxi, the passenger should be able to intervene when the AI do something stupid / endanger the car or the human passengers.

With Waymo in the US there is a button that brings up an operator that can tell the car what to do. Which is usually just to pull to the side of the road until road side assistance can come over.

 

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Dont trust auto-driving systems developed by mostly-software-vendors like Baidu and Tesla, who mostly depend on CV algorithms instead of radars (too costly for them) for their systems.

It is pretty obvious that Huawei's solution involves radar networks(that ATM only Huawei can make them feasible cost-wise) and 5G networks, which is far more robust, in terms of safety, for Level 4 and beyond auto-driving.

 

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Dont trust auto-driving systems developed by mostly-software-vendors like Baidu and Tesla, who mostly depend on CV algorithms instead of radars (too costly for them) for their systems.

It is pretty obvious that Huawei's solution involves radar networks(that ATM only Huawei can make them feasible cost-wise) and 5G networks, which is far more robust, in terms of safety, for Level 4 and beyond auto-driving.

Your rationale is faulty in the long term.

If given a scenario where you are standing in front of a cliff with a helmet where the left eyepiece shows a 10Million color capable 3840x2160 image of a bridge to your left and the eyepiece on your right shows a LIDAR generated image saying the bridge is to your right...which one are you going to believe?

People are saying CV is faulty because it has to interpret a color image. Well LIDAR is also faulty because the image itself is generated based on interpreted data.

Yes, in the short-term a mesh LIDAR image will measure things out nicely and keep you from bumping into things. But in the long term a system that can interpret/understand a high-res color pic is going to be able to pick out much more information.