Back off from China bashing, Philippine officials told

[beijingwalker]

Back off from China bashing, Philippine officials told
‘Shame China’ policy has contributed largely to the deteriorating relations between the Philippines and China

By Barbara Mae Dacanay, Bureau Chief
Published: 13:52 August 12, 2013

Manila: Senior officials of the US have advised Philippine officials, including President Benigno Aquino to back off from a rhetoric of China-bashing, a columnist said.

American officials have taken a strategy “not to vulgarise” the implementation of their policy to increase US presence in the Asia Pacific region, columnist Ellen Tordesillas of Inbox quoted former Philippine representative to the United Nations Lauro Baja as saying.

“They [American officials] want a stable region. They don’t want to prejudice their strategic relations with China, which is more important than claims [of six countries, including China’s] over rocks and shoals [in the South China Sea],” Baja was also quoted as saying.

Americans officials have also agreed with Philippine analysts’ view that the “Shame China” policy undertaken by Foreign Affairs Secretary Albert del Rosario has contributed largely to the deteriorating relations between the Philippines and China, said Tordesillas, hinting this could affect the US strategy of rebalanced power in the Asia Pacific.

“Aquino can be stubborn. But he listens to America,” Tordesillas said.

As a proof of this, Foreign Affairs Secretary Del Rosario, admitted that his office has started “looking for a modus vivendi with China,” said Tordesillas, but did not give more details.

At the same time, “two weeks before the President’s State of the Nation Address [Sona in July 2013], US officials advised the DFA [department of foreign affairs] and Malacanang [the presidential palace] to tone down their anti-China rhetorics to reduce tension in the region.

“That explains why in last month’s Sona there was no mention, not a word, about conflict with China,” said the columnist.

This was surprising because of new reports stating that China has deployed again its vessels near Ayungin Shoal in the South China Sea.

Aquino’s 2013 Sona was relatively tame in comparison with his anti-China statements in his Sona in 2011 and 2012.

In 2012, Aquino decided to send back Philippine ships near Bajo de Masinloc or the Scarborrough Shoal in the South China Sea off northern Luzon, when he learned that Chinese vessels returned there following a resolved stand-off in May.

In response, “the US relayed the advice through defence officials that it would not be wise [for Malacanang, the presidential palace] to send back the ships to Bajo de Masinloc. The ships were not sent back,” said Tordesillas who quoted an unnamed source.

Because of China’s relentless show of maritime power in the South China Sea, the Philippines also filed a suit with the UN Arbitral Court to resolve the issue internationally.

The columnist did not categorically say if the US has agreed to this approach when she said: “The US has taken a neutral position in the conflicting claims in the South China Sea and has always been consistent in urging for a peaceful resolution of the conflicting claims.”

Earlier, US President Barack Obama announced the rebalancing of US military forces from Middle East to Asia, also called a Pivot to Asia policy. Analysts said it was meant to stem China’s hegemonic-tendencies in the region.

China, Taiwan, and Vietnam claim the whole of the South China Sea based on their historical rights on the said area. Brunei, Malaysia, and Philippines claim some parts of the Spratly Archipelago in the South China Sea, based on the United Nations Conference on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) which grants 200 nautical miles exclusive economic zone to countries starting from their shores.

Back off from China bashing, Philippine officials told | GulfNews.com

 

[HongWu]

Pinoys are utterly humiliated. In the end they are nothing more than a nation of maids and servants. Nobody goes to war against a superpower with 3000 nuclear warheads for the benefit of a bunch of maids.

 

[k_arura]

Pinoys are utterly humiliated. In the end they are nothing more than a nation of maids and servants. Nobody goes to war against a superpower with 3000 nuclear warheads for the benefit of a bunch of maids.

The same reason nobody helped China when Japan too "care" of you folks in the 1930's.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

The same reason nobody helped China when Japan too "care" of you folks in the 1930's.

Well, today the story is different. Japan can't put a toe out of line with China.

It is a superpower issues you know? China and the US, no one else is really interested in a confrontation with the Dragon.

Pinoys are utterly humiliated. In the end they are nothing more than a nation of maids and servants. Nobody goes to war against a superpower with 3000 nuclear warheads for the benefit of a bunch of maids.

I don't think so bro, I believe they had to change the tone a little bit for their own good

 

[k_arura]

Well, today the story is different. Japan can't put a toe out of line with China.

It is a superpower issues you know? China and the US, no one else is really interested in a confrontation with the Dragon.



I don't think so bro, I believe they had to change the tone a little bit for their own good

I smell raw arrogance the kind that led to Hitle'r demise as well as Soviet union's. As the saying goes shallow waters make noise while deep waters are calm. Let us see where China is in 10 years. All boxed in

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

I smell raw arrogance the kind that led to Hitle'r demise as well as Soviet union's. As the saying goes shallow waters make noise while deep waters are calm. Let us see where China is in 10 years. All boxed in

You can't compare apples to oranges, even if he used such language, I don't think he speaks on behalf of the communist party

Well, that isn't what the American side in me says.

The annihilation of Nazi Germany was imminent due to their reckless actions, remember we used the Russians to fight with us on three fronts - two in Europe, one in Asia against Imperial Japan -

As to the Russians, I think they put the nail in the coffin when they invaded Afghanistan, accompanied with economic setbacks, and sparking out an arm race they couldn't really afford.

The Chinese on the other hand are different my fellow American.

The issue we have with them is divided into two disputes, economic, and regional dominance. But I suspect that anything will happen on the long run.

Cheers

 

[k_arura]

Are you chinese or american? China is on a course from which it is not difficult to deviate much. And probably if US is smart it will ensure it doesn't

 

[Okemos]

I enjoy being bashed! haha Barking dogs don't bite.

 

[beijingwalker]

Are you chinese or american? China is on a course from which it is not difficult to deviate much. And probably if US is smart it will ensure it doesn't

China is rising,the it's been doing this very fast in the last 3 decades,comparatively speaking,US is declining.and polls around the world shows most peoples and countries dont think this trend will deviate or change anytime soon.

 

[Genesis]

Regardless of what's told or not told, the US attitude is obvious.

Going to war with China isn't out of the question. That much is certain, but going to war over Philippines is never going to happen. Especially since Filipino land isn't in danger.

Also there isn't a boxing China in strategy, this isn't the 19th century no more. The continental blockade didn't work for Napoleon and it's certainly not going to work for US, especially since the US isn't interested in that.

The US fleet will be pushed further and further away from China's shores as more of our ships are commissioned and more of our missiles are developed, until such time, that the US can no longer be a presence without the risk of losing their fleet.

And let's not forget MAD is also kind of a thing.

 

[k_arura]

China is rising,the it's been doing this very fast in the last 3 decades,comparatively speaking,US is declining.and polls around the world shows most peoples and countries dont think this trend will deviate or change anytime soon.

Don't go by polls. http://www.stratfor.com/blog/pc16-sixteen-countries-quietly-filling-void-left-declining-china

You have no idea about the foundations of a "rising" china which are very very fragile. Listen to a program by Chris boyd named Think. Can't find the link right now.

Regardless of what's told or not told, the US attitude is obvious.

Going to war with China isn't out of the question. That much is certain, but going to war over Philippines is never going to happen. Especially since Filipino land isn't in danger.

Also there isn't a boxing China in strategy, this isn't the 19th century no more. The continental blockade didn't work for Napoleon and it's certainly not going to work for US, especially since the US isn't interested in that.

The US fleet will be pushed further and further away from China's shores as more of our ships are commissioned and more of our missiles are developed, until such time, that the US can no longer be a presence without the risk of losing their fleet.

And let's not forget MAD is also kind of a thing.

If wishes were horses, you would be a millionaire. Nope, billionaire

 

[beijingwalker]

Don't go by polls. PC16: Sixteen Countries Quietly Filling Void Left By Declining China | Stratfor

You have no idea about the foundations of a "rising" china which are very very fragile. Listen to a program by Chris boyd named Think. Can't find the link right now.



If wishes were horses, you would be a millionaire. Nope, billionaire

you mean I should listen to you instead of tons economists and experts many of whom predict that China will overtake US economically befoer Obama leaves white house.

 

[beijingwalker]

You may say that China's fast development is based on"fragile' foundation,but this"fragile foundation"has been supportint this development for more than 3 decades.

 

[Wright]

You can't compare apples to oranges, even if he used such language, I don't think he speaks on behalf of the communist party

Well, that isn't what the American side in me says.

The annihilation of Nazi Germany was imminent due to their reckless actions, remember we used the Russians to fight with us on three fronts - two in Europe, one in Asia against Imperial Japan -

As to the Russians, I think they put the nail in the coffin when they invaded Afghanistan, accompanied with economic setbacks, and sparking out an arm race they couldn't really afford.

The Chinese on the other hand are different my fellow American.

The issue we have with them is divided into two disputes, economic, and regional dominance. But I suspect that anything will happen on the long run.

Cheers

US has way too much Semitic influence (Arabs and Jews have too much power ). One good thing that will come out of China being the Superpower - the ME wont be all that important anymore.

Chinese wont be so dumb to elect non Chinese as heads of their Treasury, etc.

 

[Wholegrain]

I smell raw arrogance the kind that led to Hitle'r demise as well as Soviet union's. As the saying goes shallow waters make noise while deep waters are calm. Let us see where China is in 10 years. All boxed in

Are you chinese or american? China is on a course from which it is not difficult to deviate much. And probably if US is smart it will ensure it doesn't

@KAL-EL

You smell raw arrogance from internet trolls to judge an the policy of a sovereign country, an internet troll trolling over an article which was written by a non Chinese news agency.

Automatically because the Philippines is smaller, you assume its the victim. If a kid picked up a gun and started threatening an adult on the street and got smacked down by the adult, are you going to blame the adult?

Since the Philippines picked the fight by claiming already occupied and claimed islands as "terra nullis", they deserve whatever goes their way.

The Law of the Sea and Northeast Asia: A Challenge for Cooperation - Hmi-gwOn Pak - Google Books

Where in the World is the Philippines?: Debating Its National Territory - Rodolfo Severino - Google Books

Vietnam Joins the World - Google Books

Spratly Islands (reefs, South China Sea) -- Encyclopedia Britannica

Its Filipino arrogance and aggresion which is getting smacked down, and their course isn't hard to deviate from. nazi Germany was smaller than Britain, France and America and bit off more than it could chew, same with the Philippines.