Authenticity of Hadith?

[Zulkarneyn]

Dear brothers and sisters in faith i have a few questions regarding the islamic Hadith.

As most Sunni scholars voice, Sahih Hadith is accepted because of their certain criterias. But as far as i know Hadith were gathered in written form 200-300 years after the death of our Prophet. Does that not pose any questions regarding the authenticity of Hadith, since they were collected by humans, and humans tend to make mistakes?

 

[BelligerentPacifist]

Hi two-horned-one (Zulkarneyn), that's such a noob question I'm surprised it's coming from someone who's somewhat familiar with Islaam! Anyway, Hadiith collection happened during the life of the Last Messenger, mostly in peoples' minds, and in some cases in writing (e.g. Abu Hurayrah RA I think was writing them down).

All knowledge ultimately depends upon trust. If it's personal experience you're trusting your senses, if it's transmitted knowledge you're trusting the person you're getting it from. That's why Hadith collectors included the biograpgies of the transmittors in the chain.

wAllah u a3lam. I'm too ignorant to be even opening my mouth about this.

 

[Safriz]

go to a religious forum for asking these questions.....

 

[laiqs@mi]

this also apply to Quran. Quran was not revealed in book shape it was memorized by Suhaba and in the time of Khulafa was made a book.
now how you satisfy your self for Quran????

 

[livingdead]

go to a religious forum for asking these questions.....

I was going to say exactly that. But then this is member's club, and people post seminude pic, ask us to pray for their success in exam etc, so I guess it is okey.

 

[Zulkarneyn]

Hi two-horned-one (Zulkarneyn), that's such a noob question I'm surprised it's coming from someone who's somewhat familiar with Islaam! Anyway, Hadiith collection happened during the life of the Last Messenger, mostly in peoples' minds, and in some cases in writing (e.g. Abu Hurayrah RA I think was writing them down).

All knowledge ultimately depends upon trust. If it's personal experience you're trusting your senses, if it's transmitted knowledge you're trusting the person you're getting it from. That's why Hadith collectors included the biograpgies of the transmittors in the chain.

wAllah u a3lam. I'm too ignorant to be even opening my mouth about this.

I have of course my own way of thinking about the Hadith and done some research concerning the authenticity of those. I just wanted to hear other Muslims and their thoughts about Hadith.

this also apply to Quran. Quran was not revealed in book shape it was memorized by Suhaba and in the time of Khulafa was made a book.
now how you satisfy your self for Quran????

The Quran was verbally revealed through angel Jibrīl. And shortly after Muhammad's (SAV) death Abu Bakr (ra) ordered it to be compiled it into a single book as suggested by Umar (ra). Quran has some verses wherein it is said openly that the sacred book is the ultimate guidance for humanity. Whereas Hadith is not mention in the Quran.
Also Hadith were collected by Humans, furthermore some Hadith which are considered Sahih are contradictory, that poses serious questions in mind as to the reliablity of their authenticty.

 

[truthseer]

The research undertaken by Bukhari was extensive
Here's an excellent research undertaken on his research
Bukhari: A research paper on ancient historical methodologies

On a related note, we should have a Religions forum here

 

[BelligerentPacifist]

go to a religious forum for asking these questions.....

Internet forums are inherently unwise places to learn knowledge.

 

[PakiRambo]

A Muslim is questioning the Authenticity of Hadith?

What has the world come to?

You can question all other pieces of work, but Quran and Hadith are a big no-no.

 

[Last Hope]

There are 8 books of Hadiths. Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Islam are totally authentic and you do not need to give a second thought before implying it.

These hadiths were collected by the companions. Aisha RA has the most number of hadiths mentioned, don't know the exact number but it was over 2200. Imam Bukhari, traveled far away, to corners of Arabia, to those who had any knowledge of Hadiths. And the hadiths are only collected for those who have heard or seen them in practical life.

Same was with Quran. A compilation was made years after, some people had it in pieces.

 

[Hyde]

Dear brothers and sisters in faith i have a few questions regarding the islamic Hadith.

As most Sunni scholars voice, Sahih Hadith is accepted because of their certain criterias. But as far as i know Hadith were gathered in written form 200-300 years after the death of our Prophet. Does that not pose any questions regarding the authenticity of Hadith, since they were collected by humans, and humans tend to make mistakes?

Here is your answer

Let me google that for you

There are 8 books of Hadiths. Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Islam are totally authentic and you do not need to give a second thought before implying it.

These hadiths were collected by the companions. Aisha RA has the most number of hadiths mentioned, don't know the exact number but it was over 2200. Imam Bukhari, traveled far away, to corners of Arabia, to those who had any knowledge of Hadiths. And the hadiths are only collected for those who have heard or seen them in practical life.

Same was with Quran. A compilation was made years after, some people had it in pieces.

Well first of all we have to see whose school of thought we are following as every sect of Islam had different ways of compiling Ahadees and some don't even follow hadith.

Most of the Muslims in my opinion follow Imam Abu Hanifa if I am not wrong and during the days of Abu Hanifa, some companions of Prophet were alive and many people were alive who had met with the companions of Prophet and there were several issues where Muslims were not able to find the answer of particular question due to lack of knowledge among the Muslim world. Islam was more like a selling product for the oppressed people who had spent the whole life in slavery and punishment by their masters. Islam gave them a freedom and the power to shape their own life howsoever they prefer. But then there was no internet so obviously they used to practice religion to the best of their knowledge and understanding. So Imam Abu Hanifa travelled all over Arabia to compile the sayings of the Prophet and had a whole panel of scholars to debate every possible issue being raised in his days and find the answer of every question for the general public. He did well and most of the Muslims nowadays are his followers... Then there were other scholars like the remaining 3 Imams who were born later and served their life compiling the history of Prophet's life and also disagreed with Imam Abu Hanifa because of their personal research on that particular subject.

Then after 200-300 years Imam Bukhari started compiling the sayings of the Prophet and it was said he probably knew more than half a million ahadeeth by heart but he compiled only less than 8000 ahadees in his book to be sure that whatever he writes has been proven by various authentic sources. Similar was the case for Imam Muslim who knew hundreds of thousands of Ahadees but only narrated 2200 ahadees in his book to avoid any chance of writing a fake hadeeth by mistake.

Yes the error of judgement is still possible and as per Muslims's belief only the Holy Qur'an is the most authentic book of God that cannot be altered or tempered by anybody... So yes Hadeeth are not the final word of God but surely a book of guidance after the Holy Qur'an to understand the life of the Prophet. Anything I said is true to the best of my knowledge and if any member disagree you can correct me in PM and if you want further debate on this topic, please go to Google search engine and find a better site to prove yourself a better scholar