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Australia to Speed Missile Defense Development, Turnbull Says
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Jason Gale
8 ביולי 2017, 03:49 GMT‎+3‎
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Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull.

Photographer: Mark Graham/Bloomberg
Australia will press ahead with a missile defense program to protect its forces, but a U.S. shield system isn’t appropriate, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull said.

The Terminal High Altitude Area Defense, or THAAD, system mentioned in recent briefings is “not really suitable for our situation,” Turnbull told reporters at the Group of 20 Summit on Friday. The meeting in Hamburg has been overshadowed by North Korea’s first successful launch last week of a missile capable of reaching at least part of the U.S.

“The answer in respect of North Korea is the de-nuclearization of North Korea and for it to stop its reckless conduct, its reckless and provocative conduct,” Turnbull said. “The nation with overwhelmingly the greatest leverage over North Korea is China. And so we look to China to bring North Korea to its senses.”

2016 report. While the threat of an intercontinental ballistic missile attack on Australia is “low,” longer-range and submarine-launched ballistic and cruise missiles could threaten Australian territory, and shorter-range ballistic and cruise missiles pose a threat to deployed forces.

“We’re developing missile defenses,” Turnbull said. “The focus is on protecting our forces both at sea and on the ground -- our deployed forces in the field.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...eed-missile-defense-development-turnbull-says
 
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Australia has no industry left to 'develop' something so complicated.
 
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Australia has no industry left to 'develop' something so complicated.
Well, they did manage CeaFAR and CeaMount
http://www.cea.com.au/!Global/Directory.php?Location=ProductsServices:PhasedArrayTechnologies
http://www.cea.com.au/!Global/Directory.php?Location=ProductsServices:PhasedArrayTechnologies:CEAFAR
http://www.cea.com.au/!Global/Direc...sServices:ContinuousWaveIlluminators:CEAMOUNT

That's a good starting point.
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Artist's rendition of Navantia's Sea 5000 proposal based on the F-100 design. Credit: Navantia Australia
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The BAE Systems Global Combat Ship (GCS) design based on the RN's Type 26 and with CEAFAR array. Credit: BAE Systems


FREMM_SEA_5000.jpg

DCNS Fremm with Ceafar arrays.

Couple that to e.g. SM6 or SM3, see what happens. And/or with Stunner / SkyCatcher or Aster 30 BMD version.

From 2008:
CEA's active phased-array 3D radar is competitive with modern 2D radars.

But CEA is also developing other phased array radars including an L-Band long range surface search digital radar and of course AUSPAR.

AUSPAR is a highpowered version of the CEAFAR architecture.

The purpose of the AUSPAR program (Phase 5B of SEA 4000) is to undertake further development of CEA's advanced scalable radar technology so that it can be used in medium to long range air warfare, and potentially demonstrate its capability for meeting theatre ballistic missile defence requirements.

A Project Arrangement for the Australia/US Phased Array Radar (AUSPAR) Project between the US and Australia was signed on 21 April.

According to questions we originally put to Defence the AUSPAR program aims to develop innovative radar technologies with the potential to contribute to future advanced radar programs in Australia and the US.

http://www.australiandefence.com.au/13FD9BB0-F807-11DD-8DFE0050568C22C9
 
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Well, they did manage CeaFAR and CeaMount
http://www.cea.com.au/!Global/Directory.php?Location=ProductsServices:PhasedArrayTechnologies
http://www.cea.com.au/!Global/Directory.php?Location=ProductsServices:PhasedArrayTechnologies:CEAFAR
http://www.cea.com.au/!Global/Direc...sServices:ContinuousWaveIlluminators:CEAMOUNT

That's a good starting point.
2cf1cf88ded203643c455945f3f35107.jpg

Sea-5000-Render-HD-171.jpg

Artist's rendition of Navantia's Sea 5000 proposal based on the F-100 design. Credit: Navantia Australia
RS31022_CS092415.01.01_GCS__cea.jpg

The BAE Systems Global Combat Ship (GCS) design based on the RN's Type 26 and with CEAFAR array. Credit: BAE Systems


FREMM_SEA_5000.jpg

DCNS Fremm with Ceafar arrays.

Couple that to e.g. SM6 or SM3, see what happens. And/or with Stunner / SkyCatcher or Aster 30 BMD version.

From 2008:
CEA's active phased-array 3D radar is competitive with modern 2D radars.

But CEA is also developing other phased array radars including an L-Band long range surface search digital radar and of course AUSPAR.

AUSPAR is a highpowered version of the CEAFAR architecture.

The purpose of the AUSPAR program (Phase 5B of SEA 4000) is to undertake further development of CEA's advanced scalable radar technology so that it can be used in medium to long range air warfare, and potentially demonstrate its capability for meeting theatre ballistic missile defence requirements.

A Project Arrangement for the Australia/US Phased Array Radar (AUSPAR) Project between the US and Australia was signed on 21 April.

According to questions we originally put to Defence the AUSPAR program aims to develop innovative radar technologies with the potential to contribute to future advanced radar programs in Australia and the US.

http://www.australiandefence.com.au/13FD9BB0-F807-11DD-8DFE0050568C22C9
its defrent from arrow 3 or sm 3
 
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Well, they did manage CeaFAR and CeaMount
http://www.cea.com.au/!Global/Directory.php?Location=ProductsServices:PhasedArrayTechnologies
http://www.cea.com.au/!Global/Directory.php?Location=ProductsServices:PhasedArrayTechnologies:CEAFAR
http://www.cea.com.au/!Global/Direc...sServices:ContinuousWaveIlluminators:CEAMOUNT

That's a good starting point.
2cf1cf88ded203643c455945f3f35107.jpg

Sea-5000-Render-HD-171.jpg

Artist's rendition of Navantia's Sea 5000 proposal based on the F-100 design. Credit: Navantia Australia
RS31022_CS092415.01.01_GCS__cea.jpg

The BAE Systems Global Combat Ship (GCS) design based on the RN's Type 26 and with CEAFAR array. Credit: BAE Systems


FREMM_SEA_5000.jpg

DCNS Fremm with Ceafar arrays.

Couple that to e.g. SM6 or SM3, see what happens. And/or with Stunner / SkyCatcher or Aster 30 BMD version.

From 2008:
CEA's active phased-array 3D radar is competitive with modern 2D radars.

But CEA is also developing other phased array radars including an L-Band long range surface search digital radar and of course AUSPAR.

AUSPAR is a highpowered version of the CEAFAR architecture.

The purpose of the AUSPAR program (Phase 5B of SEA 4000) is to undertake further development of CEA's advanced scalable radar technology so that it can be used in medium to long range air warfare, and potentially demonstrate its capability for meeting theatre ballistic missile defence requirements.

A Project Arrangement for the Australia/US Phased Array Radar (AUSPAR) Project between the US and Australia was signed on 21 April.

According to questions we originally put to Defence the AUSPAR program aims to develop innovative radar technologies with the potential to contribute to future advanced radar programs in Australia and the US.

http://www.australiandefence.com.au/13FD9BB0-F807-11DD-8DFE0050568C22C9
have they picked a winner yet?

What? I don't understand what you say. Please write someting comprehensible.
good god for someone who lives in Israel i expect him to construct sentences properly.
 
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its easier to biuld ship then complicated anti balistic missle like sm 3 or arrow 3
You are completely missing the point. I wasn't talking about ship building. I was discussing the radar and missile guidance systems Australia has been developing foor those ships. Perhaps you've notive but the Dutch LCF ships with Thales Smart-L and APAR can now do BMD (using SM2, and in future possibly SM3 and/or SM6). I don't see why the Australian's couldn't do that either.
 
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You are completely missing the point. I wasn't talking about ship building. I was discussing the radar and missile guidance systems Australia has been developing foor those ships. Perhaps you've notive but the Dutch LCF ships with Thales Smart-L and APAR can now do BMD (using SM2, and in future possibly SM3 and/or SM6). I don't see why the Australian's couldn't do that either.
they want to develop themself
 
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No.But if I were them I'ld go with the Navantia ship. Seeing as how this would lead to a high level of commonality with the Hobart clss AWDs.


They could well develop a domestic system and adopt an existing missile for it.
alone?
i dont think so
 
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No.But if I were them I'ld go with the Navantia ship. Seeing as how this would lead to a high level of commonality with the Hobart clss AWDs.


They could well develop a domestic system and adopt an existing missile for it.
tbh i have a weird gut feeling they would go for the spanish design simply because of its commonality with the horbart destroyer which this new design is based of, but because they are looking at the type 26 and its british and im british, im pushing for the type 26 here, most likely it would come with the camm-er and the bae systems 127mm gun. the french ships would be expensive but they have a good shot as dcns is also building subs there too.

its all to play for and place you bets........

@Vergennes what do you think they would go for and why?

i would be astonished if they go for a domestic missile system as it would be way too expensive. and since these are frigates they dont need the full fat slvester or mk 41 vls system. this makes a good option for the camm-er, essm or umkhonto missile
 
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alone?
i dont think so
It's not that hard, especially since their already operate SM2 Block IIIB. In Block IVa versions, this can in principle be used for BMD. That's just an upgrade to missiles they already have. And the basic radars are there too already.
 
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It's not that hard, especially since their already operate SM2 Block IIIB. In Block IVa versions, this can in principle be used for BMD. That's just an upgrade to missiles they already have. And the basic radars are there too already.
yes very easy thats why south korea didnt develop yet and alot of countries that need it didnt
 
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