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At Rs. 599 Crore, India Spends Rs 3.23 Lakh Annually To Educate One Jamia Student; In Return, What Does Nation Get?

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Protest by Jamia students (@rajshekhartoi/Twitter)

Snapshot

  • Jamia Millia Islamia has about 18,500 students.
  • 2003 students are under Ph.D.
  • Pass percentage? 76 amongst men and 62 for women
  • Average time taken to finish doctoral research: 8 years.
  • Annual expenditure: Rs 599 crore
  • Maximum papers published with: Saudi Arabia.
  • International institute of eminence?

Why are the students of Jamia protesting? Valid question. I will not attempt a political commentary that mainstream media is already immersed into. A more critical question is to explore this — why do students get so much time and energy to protest on matters that do not impact them in any way?

My last article on JNU ( Anurag Singh's answer to What is your opinion on the government's decision on increasing the fees of eminent universities like JNU and DU?) tried to connect the dots on the overall lack of accountability of students to their own careers, a general misdirection of energy, absence of realism on current economic issues and the low fee structure that creates total absence of urgency to do anything productive for the society.

The Jamia protests provoked me to explore the same for the university, with almost similar results. Probably worse. Let’s see the facts and you can decide.

Basics first. Jamia Millia Islamia (JMI) has about 18,500 students in college level courses. Here is the breakup. Notice the 2003 students under Ph.D. This is almost 50 per cent of the overall PG course strength. This is disproportionately high for any university. This is supported by a teaching faculty of 729.



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Reference: JMI University website and annual reports.


With a reputation of a ‘premier varsity’ amongst the minorities, it should attract the best and the brightest, I assume. The results, however, indicate a different story. As much as 76 per cent pass percentage amongst men and 62 pass percentage for women is shocking. See the pass percentage below:



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Reference: JMI University website and annual reports.


This, for a “premier” varsity, is hardly anything to shout about. Even then, however, I thought I may be misreading the data. So I tried to uncover more information on how this looks subject-wise. As usual, the rot lies in the humanities and social sciences section. See below that the pass percentage of regular students in humanities is less than 50 per cent in some cases.



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Reference: JMI University website and annual reports.


So, how are our Ph.D scholars doing? Protests aside, the results speak louder than words.



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Reference: JMI University website and annual reports.


Did I get this right? So with this rate, an average Ph.D student takes 7.6 years to complete the doctoral research! With the limited experience I have about education, 7.6 years for a Ph.D is obscene. More so in a poor country like ours. Are they doing some special research?

Let’s explore.



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Reference: JMI University website and annual reports.


We see a total of 921 publications from the campus in 2017-18. With a faculty count of 729 and 2,000 doctoral scholars, this is a 0.33 papers-per-person for faculty and Ph.Ds combined. How about a national protest for this?

Now, the output can’t be looked at without the cost that goes in. This brings us to the income statement of the varsity. Notice the grants and subsidies by the government here. With a total spends of Rs 599 crore, JMI spends Rs 3.23 lakh per student annually. Can we afford such a waste of resources? On a 60-72 pass percentage basis?



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Reference: JMI University website and annual reports.


This is not all. Here is the data about collaborative research papers published by JMI. I noticed something interesting. A majority of the papers have been published in collaboration with varsities of Saudi Arabia!



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Reference: JMI University website and annual reports.


I’m not surprised. In the name of “international” students, Jamia has 161 students from Afghanistan, 25 from Iran, 10 from Palestine and the rest in low single digits (except Nepal).

Does education mean embracing a global outlook or is about just confining oneself to a particular school of thought?

Finally, The Protest That Is Making News.

With a pass percentage of less than 70 and 2,000 Ph.D scholars taking 7.6 years for research, I see that there is ample time to protest on “national issues”. Education and outcomes can wait, so can the enlightenment that comes with the right education. I doubt how many have even read what the CAB Bill contains, let alone understand it.

Many claim that the students were engaged in a “peaceful” protest and it was outsiders who threw stones or burned buses.

Same old story when JNU students claimed innocence about anti-India slogans, blaming it on “outsiders”. How come other universities don’t get endowments from such external elements? Why do students at select campuses allow the university premises to be misused by “outsiders” ?

If This Is Being Fed In The Name Of Education, I Protest!

Meanwhile, there is a debate on who started the violence in campus and whether the police acted out of their remit in controlling it. I saw an interesting piece of information in the JMI report. The campus has 217 CCTV cameras, with locations as below. The below table indicates that cameras cover everything that there is to monitor at the varsity. So why the fuss about how and who started the violence.



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Reference: JMI University website and annual reports.


Let’s see if the 217 CCTV cameras can solve the puzzle of who started the violence. I’m waiting!

Jamia students, can we stop the politics and have the CCTV footage, please? It is your university after all. Own up!

https://swarajyamag.com/ideas/at-rs-599-crore-india-spends-rs-323-lakh-annually-to-educate-one-jamia-student-in-return-what-does-nation-get
 
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At Rs. 599 Crore, India Spends Rs 3.23 Lakh Annually To Educate One Jamia Student; In Return, What Does Nation Get?

ELtndEkUUAEHGri.jfif
Protest by Jamia students (@rajshekhartoi/Twitter)

Snapshot

  • Jamia Millia Islamia has about 18,500 students.
  • 2003 students are under Ph.D.
  • Pass percentage? 76 amongst men and 62 for women
  • Average time taken to finish doctoral research: 8 years.
  • Annual expenditure: Rs 599 crore
  • Maximum papers published with: Saudi Arabia.
  • International institute of eminence?

Why are the students of Jamia protesting? Valid question. I will not attempt a political commentary that mainstream media is already immersed into. A more critical question is to explore this — why do students get so much time and energy to protest on matters that do not impact them in any way?

My last article on JNU ( Anurag Singh's answer to What is your opinion on the government's decision on increasing the fees of eminent universities like JNU and DU?) tried to connect the dots on the overall lack of accountability of students to their own careers, a general misdirection of energy, absence of realism on current economic issues and the low fee structure that creates total absence of urgency to do anything productive for the society.

The Jamia protests provoked me to explore the same for the university, with almost similar results. Probably worse. Let’s see the facts and you can decide.

Basics first. Jamia Millia Islamia (JMI) has about 18,500 students in college level courses. Here is the breakup. Notice the 2003 students under Ph.D. This is almost 50 per cent of the overall PG course strength. This is disproportionately high for any university. This is supported by a teaching faculty of 729.



j1.jfif
Reference: JMI University website and annual reports.


With a reputation of a ‘premier varsity’ amongst the minorities, it should attract the best and the brightest, I assume. The results, however, indicate a different story. As much as 76 per cent pass percentage amongst men and 62 pass percentage for women is shocking. See the pass percentage below:



12A23000_D9A2_42BF_A858_BBAD34B87BAA.jpeg
Reference: JMI University website and annual reports.


This, for a “premier” varsity, is hardly anything to shout about. Even then, however, I thought I may be misreading the data. So I tried to uncover more information on how this looks subject-wise. As usual, the rot lies in the humanities and social sciences section. See below that the pass percentage of regular students in humanities is less than 50 per cent in some cases.



j3.jfif
Reference: JMI University website and annual reports.


So, how are our Ph.D scholars doing? Protests aside, the results speak louder than words.



BE2CD4B4_E4F6_4338_9B68_93E922940451.jpeg
Reference: JMI University website and annual reports.


Did I get this right? So with this rate, an average Ph.D student takes 7.6 years to complete the doctoral research! With the limited experience I have about education, 7.6 years for a Ph.D is obscene. More so in a poor country like ours. Are they doing some special research?

Let’s explore.



j5.jfif
Reference: JMI University website and annual reports.


We see a total of 921 publications from the campus in 2017-18. With a faculty count of 729 and 2,000 doctoral scholars, this is a 0.33 papers-per-person for faculty and Ph.Ds combined. How about a national protest for this?

Now, the output can’t be looked at without the cost that goes in. This brings us to the income statement of the varsity. Notice the grants and subsidies by the government here. With a total spends of Rs 599 crore, JMI spends Rs 3.23 lakh per student annually. Can we afford such a waste of resources? On a 60-72 pass percentage basis?



j6.jfif
Reference: JMI University website and annual reports.


This is not all. Here is the data about collaborative research papers published by JMI. I noticed something interesting. A majority of the papers have been published in collaboration with varsities of Saudi Arabia!



j7.jfif
Reference: JMI University website and annual reports.


I’m not surprised. In the name of “international” students, Jamia has 161 students from Afghanistan, 25 from Iran, 10 from Palestine and the rest in low single digits (except Nepal).

Does education mean embracing a global outlook or is about just confining oneself to a particular school of thought?

Finally, The Protest That Is Making News.

With a pass percentage of less than 70 and 2,000 Ph.D scholars taking 7.6 years for research, I see that there is ample time to protest on “national issues”. Education and outcomes can wait, so can the enlightenment that comes with the right education. I doubt how many have even read what the CAB Bill contains, let alone understand it.

Many claim that the students were engaged in a “peaceful” protest and it was outsiders who threw stones or burned buses.

Same old story when JNU students claimed innocence about anti-India slogans, blaming it on “outsiders”. How come other universities don’t get endowments from such external elements? Why do students at select campuses allow the university premises to be misused by “outsiders” ?

If This Is Being Fed In The Name Of Education, I Protest!

Meanwhile, there is a debate on who started the violence in campus and whether the police acted out of their remit in controlling it. I saw an interesting piece of information in the JMI report. The campus has 217 CCTV cameras, with locations as below. The below table indicates that cameras cover everything that there is to monitor at the varsity. So why the fuss about how and who started the violence.



j8.jfif
Reference: JMI University website and annual reports.


Let’s see if the 217 CCTV cameras can solve the puzzle of who started the violence. I’m waiting!

Jamia students, can we stop the politics and have the CCTV footage, please? It is your university after all. Own up!

https://swarajyamag.com/ideas/at-rs-599-crore-india-spends-rs-323-lakh-annually-to-educate-one-jamia-student-in-return-what-does-nation-get



I like people with brain like yours in your country.
You are going to take India to greatness.
Keep going mate, you have compete moral support from me.
Don't forget to vote for Modi next time as well :)
 
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I like people with brain like yours in your country.
You are going to take India to greatness.
Keep going mate, you have compete moral support from me.
Don't forget to vote for Modi next time as well :)

Are you talking about my "brain" for posting an article full of statistical details and analysis ?

I take it you do not get too many people who use their brain where you come from.

I can only hope Modi stands for election the next time. I recall him saying he plan to run for only 2 terms.
 
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Are you talking about my "brain" for posting an article full of statistical details and analysis ?

That's why I was praising your efforts mate. Is it wrong to praise your way of thinking?

I take it you do not get too many people who use their brain where you come from.

Nope definitely not. Your type of thinkers happen only in India. I wish more and more of your folk were like you, and India will have gone places you know :)

I can only hope Modi stands for election the next time. I recall him saying he plan to run for only 2 terms.

Maybe try prep Ajit Doval to take his place instead?
 
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That's why I was praising your efforts mate. Is it wrong to praise your way of thinking?

Why is my approval so important to you ?

Nope definitely not. Your type of thinkers happen only in India. I wish more and more of your folk were like you, and India will have gone places you know :)

You have my sympathies. :agree:

Maybe try prep Ajit Doval to take his place instead?

Doval is older than Modi. Also he is not a politician. I am hoping for Amit Shah and then Yogi.

Unlike pakistan, we have elections and not selection.
 
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i stand corrected, this is indeed taken directly from RSS website :lol:

regards
 
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i stand corrected, this is indeed taken directly from RSS website :lol:

regards

Can you post the link to the RSS website that has this article ?

Even if it is, can you point out the flaw in the data or the data analysis ?

Meanwhile it only gets better,

https://www.opindia.com/2020/02/jam...ent-petition-2-crore-injuries-anti-caa-riots/

Jamia ‘student’ wants the govt to pay him Rs 2 crores for injuries he suffered in police action following Dec 15th riots

Shayyan Mujeeb has filed a petition seeking a compensation of Rs 2 crores for his injuries
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Jamia riots

The Delhi High Court has issued a notice to the central government, Delhi Police and the Delhi government based on the petition by a ‘student’ of Jamia Millia Islamia, Shayyan Mujeeb, seeking a compensation of Rs 2 crores for his injuries. He claims that these were the injuries he suffered after police action in Jamia following the riots of December 15th.

Dec 15 Jamia incident: Delhi HC issues notice to Centre, Delhi Police, Delhi govt on petition by a student Shayyan Mujeeb seeking compensation of Rs 2 Cr for his injuries. He said he was sitting in library, was severely injured&spent Rs 2.5 Lakhs as his both legs were fractured.



Shayyan Mujeeb claims that he was sitting in the Library and was severely injured in the police action. He says that he had to spend Rs 2.5 lakhs as both of his legs were fractured.

The controversial Jamia Millia Islamia University in Delhi had emerged as one of the epi-centres of the anti-CAA agitations being perpetrated in the name of ‘peaceful protests’. The students and Muslim mob associated with the Jamia Millia Islamia University had unleashed violent protests against the Citizenship Amendment Act.

Read: Watch: Jamia ‘students’ with stones in hand taking shelter in library before Police barged in during anti-CAA riots

In December, the protests against CAA and NRC had turned violent amidst chants of Allah-o-Akbar and Naara-e-Taqbeer. The Muslim mobs had burnt four DTC buses, 100 private vehicles and 10 police bikes and pelted stones, injuring several policemen.

Following the riots, the Delhi police had registered an FIR against six people including four local politicians and a former Congress MLA was also named as suspects related to Jamia violence. The Delhi Police had named former Congress MLA Asif Khan as one of the accused in its FIR.

Interestingly, a video had surfaced yesterday from the night of 15th December 2019 that shows ‘students’ of the Jamia Milia Islamia University entering the library with stones in their hands before the Delhi Police took action against those present in the room. Earlier, a 49-second video was released that showed men in police uniforms caning ‘students’ ‘studying’ in the library. The first video was released by the Jamia Coordination Committee (JCC), which includes students and alumni of the Jamia Millia Islamia.

Read: Anti-BJP ecosystem including journalists spread edited CCTV footage to claim police attacked students in Jamia library

The narrative that the Delhi police had cracked down ‘brutally’ on innocent students who were ‘studying peacefully’ in the library was fuelled by the usual elements after a short edited clip was released. However, once the longer clip was released it became evident that Jamia rioters had run into the library to take refuge during police action and the ones present in the library were no ‘students’ studying peacefully.
 
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swarajya is a hindu nationalist wesbite probably directly run by RSS terrorists.

regards
 
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swarajya is a hindu nationalist wesbite probably directly run by RSS terrorists.

regards

What is Wrong in being a "hindu nationalist website" ? :cheesy:

In any case Swarajya is a reputed Magazine with Huge credibility backed with strong track record of reporting Facts.

Also can you point to any National or International organization that has deemed RSS a "terrorist" organization ?
 
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Why is my approval so important to you ?
Just trying to not hurt your feelings. I heard intelligent folk like you cry pretty easy but maybe people are wrong or something.

Doval is older than Modi. Also he is not a politician. I am hoping for Amit Shah and then Yogi.

Great hopes. I hope those hopes become a reality and the BJP reign never ever ends this time till India is made "great" again.

Unlike pakistan, we have elections and not selection.

Yup, it definitely has to be a DemoCraZy to get such awesomely qualified people like Modi into power.
 
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Just trying to not hurt your feelings. I heard intelligent folk like you cry pretty easy but maybe people are wrong or something.

Clearly pakistanis are some of the most considerate people on the planet. Just ask the Afghans and Balochis. :agree:

Great hopes. I hope those hopes become a reality and the BJP reign never ever ends this time till India is made "great" again.

Aameen.

Yup, it definitely has to be a DemoCraZy to get such awesomely qualified people like Modi into power.

Its spelled "Democracy".
 
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