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At least 57 killed in co-ordinated Baghdad attacks

The excuse for the bombing was always the US, there gone and what happens the bombings increase.

Makes me think of all those who hold to the fantasy that the only thing Pakistan needs to do is kick out the US and the bombings will stop and animals like the Khorasan will vanish
 
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The excuse for the bombing was always the US, there gone and what happens the bombings increase.

Makes me think of all those who hold to the fantasy that the only thing Pakistan needs to do is kick out the US and the bombings will stop and animals like the Khorasan will vanish

Why bring Pakistan into this?

There were plenty of bombings and carnage during the US occupation as well.

Democracy in Iraq will become "Democrazy". Democracy is not something that can happen in one day in a country with little or no foundations of Democracy in its history.

If Iraq really is heading into the path of "Democrazy", expect some carnage along the way.
 
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Honestly speaking, the dictatorship was far more stable, secular and peaceful..
Honestly speaking? Try say that to the Kuwaitis.

what we have now is a sectarian Iraq...
Whaddaya mean 'now'? Iraq have ALWAYS been sectarian. When Saddam was in power, he favored one at the expense of the other.

...yet you put the blame for destroying a stable iraq on iraqi people..
Then who else? Did we say to the Sunnis and the Shias to fight and kill each other?

...americans dont know jack sh_t about history of iraq,...
I find this to be a very weak argument against US. If you remove a burden from someone's shoulders, what need is there to know his history? Or are you saying that we should have recognized that the ME must always be ruled by dictators, hopefully benevolent but the peoples are willing to live under malevolent ones? History can often be that burden. Same for traditions and customs. If you mean that we should have recognized that tribal instincts usually trumps other allegiances, then yes, I have no problems saying we are guilty of that. However, this means the burden of achieving and maintaining a peaceful and prosperous country falls upon those tribal leaders, correct? The errors we made does not erase those centuries of tribal customs, folklore, traditions, understandings, and relationships. Cannot erase is more like it. Scorn US. Make fun of our ways. Openly insult US. Ultimately, we do not care of those things. But what we do care is HOW you maintain your society once the dictatorship is removed from you so you can start all over again, hopefully with a benevolent dictator if you wish. Just as you judge US based upon our mistakes while we were there, so will the world judge you as you destroy your own country.

they have no business there! Other than mess it all up and run!
:lol: When you invite us (not US) into the region, you gave us (not US) the latitude to make business there. Remember, it was your leaders who invited us (not US) to help you lift yourselves out of the dark ages and into modernity. It was your leaderships who invited us (not US) into the region to make alliances against who you believed to be foes, even when sometimes you are your own enemies.

And even a bigger point, the dictator ship was imposed by no other than western powers...
That is absurd. Saddam Hussein got to power in Iraq through Syrian Baathists who believed in socialism -- foreign ideas.

...and Iraqis never came forward asking Americans to remove the dictatorship,...
Did they petitioned Saddam Hussein to invade Kuwait? This is another weak argument. If the Iraqis were capable of 'asking' foreigners to remove the dictatorship, then surely they must have been strong enough to make troubles for said dictatorship in the first place. Strong enough to give them that latitude if not remove the dictator themselves. But if you want to inject the will of the Iraqi people into this debate, then I have equal right to inject that same will into the invasion of Kuwait. So did the Iraqis petitioned Saddam Hussein to invade Kuwait?

The point here is that it is usually the misfortune of an oppressed people to suffer not only the dictator but also the consequences of his ambitions when they failed. In the past, one of those consequences is another dictatorship except usually the new ruler is not of their own. The new ruler was also sometimes even more cruel and oppressive. The country's natural resources were looted to benefit far away peoples. The country and the people were incorporated into a political alliance not of their own seeking, as in member of an empire.

None of those things happened to the Iraqis. So if Iraq falls apart between Iran and al-Qaeda, it will be the Iraqis who is to blame. If Iraq falls under Iranian control, it will be the Shia allegiance, not US, who is to blame.

they instead wished to save their lives and spare their country..America today is walking in the shoes of Pharaoh thinking it is the god!

AQ and Saddam who were staunch enemies of each other have now found a fertile breeding ground and lasting partnership for the long term..thank you america..for making world more dangerous and creating more terrorist!
Har...It is not US who is 'creating more terrorist'. You can stretch the definition of 'create' to the absurd and the world will laugh at you.
 
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