Asharq al-Awsat: Are you with Israel or with Syria?

[mohsen]

10% Non Muslim Noussayries is not = Syria. We are stand by the side which represents 0f 90% Syria..

Mullahs are very capable in word games..

BTW..Shame on muslims who only consider israel atacks onto the arms depost of Baby killer Assad just the days that haundreds of innocent civil muslims massacred by Assad regime...

shame on whoever that stands beside US, Israel, Al-Qaeda, Al-Nusra, MKO to weaken resistant in the ME. Just mentioning these names which are supporting F$A is enough to show how trustworthy your claims are. in our news this is F$A who is massacring Syrian, and it was just a few days ago that U.N investigator said F$A has used chemical weapons against civilian.

 

[Hussein]

10% Non Muslim Noussayries is not = Syria. We are stand by the side which represents 0f 90% Syria..

Mullahs are very capable in word games..

BTW..Shame on muslims who only consider israel atacks onto the arms depost of Baby killer Assad just the days that haundreds of innocent civil muslims massacred by Assad regime...

half killed by rebels half killed by regime.

by the way christians are not muslims.. and? you should kill them?

another sectarian fanatic

 

[Battle of Kursk]

shame on whoever that stands beside US, Israel, Al-Qaeda, Al-Nusra, MKO to weaken resistant in the ME. Just mentioning these names which are supporting F$A is enough to show how trustworthy your claims are.

care to provide evidence to Israeli support of the FSA?

 

[Hussein]

care to provide evidence to Israeli support of the FSA?

i don't think so too but i was watching this French channel program:
france 24
specialists say Israël wanted not only show a message to Hezbollah but the way it was done , the targets show that Israël wanted to help FSA

 

[Solomon2]

Don't worry we pay them on the spot. Remember Imad Mughniyah?

KSA killed him,not Israel? Was that because he was Hezbollah or because he converted from Sunni to Shia?

 

[ajpirzada]

Saudi Arabia has also condemn the act and asked for UN action against Israel, Does that mean we support Assad?

yup. the 'Saudi' government are the most hypocritical people to have ever represented the world of Islam. Oh, who brought them to power in the early 20th century? obv the west. and how can a child not listen to his father!!! how wrong i am.

just a simple question. will the post-war Syria lead by the Al-Nusra backed government be better than the pre-war Syria under Al-Asad? Will there be more peace? Will the economic and social lives of people improve? if so, how long will it take for this country to rebuild itself? Will there be more freedom for the people? the answer to all that is No. there will only be anarchy in the form of sectarian wars, al-qaeda elements and others. and all of u seem to be doing Syrian people a favour?
and u guys seriously believe that majority Syrian people are happy? if they were so supportive of this war, it would have ended long time back. people came out in Egypt and the world saw it. where is that support in Syria? why is it that the whole West and their puppets have failed to overthrow Al-Asad government despite military aid to the militant groups?

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

KSA killed him,not Israel? Was that because he was Hezbollah or because he converted from Sunni to Shia?

Mr. Mughniyah crossed the line when it was found that he was responsible for the death of Rafiq Al Hariri.

yup. the 'Saudi' government are the most hypocritical people to have ever represented the world of Islam. Oh, who brought them to power in the early 20th century? obv the west. and how can a child not listen to his father!!! how wrong i am.

just a simple question. will the post-war Syria lead by the Al-Nusra backed government be better than the pre-war Syria under Al-Asad? Will there be more peace? Will the economic and social lives of people improve? if so, how long will it take for this country to rebuild itself? Will there be more freedom for the people? the answer to all that is No. there will only be anarchy in the form of sectarian wars, al-qaeda elements and others. and all of u seem to be doing Syrian people a favour?
and u guys seriously believe that majority Syrian people are happy? if they were so supportive of this war, it would have ended long time back. people came out in Egypt and the world saw it. where is that support in Syria? why is it that the whole West and their puppets have failed to overthrow Al-Asad government despite military aid to the militant groups?

Assad committed atrocities to the Syrian people. I don't expect that people should agree on everything Saudi Arabia does ,noting can be imposed on people by force

 

[ajpirzada]

Assad committed atrocities to the Syrian people. I don't expect that people should agree on everything Saudi Arabia does ,noting can be imposed on people by force

atrocities is not answer to my question. its always relative when it comes to comparison. and my question was:

will the post-war Syria lead by the Al-Nusra backed government be better than the pre-war Syria under Al-Asad? Will there be more peace? Will the economic and social lives of people improve? if so, how long will it take for this country to rebuild itself? Will there be more freedom for the people? Will there not be anarchy in the form of sectarian wars, al-qaeda elements and others after the government is overthrown?

and force is not being used to topple the government and that also for last more than one year? Ever wonder why is US against the clause in one of the UN bills which states that world governments wont support non-state elements? The Syrian state has a legitimate right to defend itself against the armed non-state actors which are being militarily and diplomatically supported by the outside regimes. West speaks of democracy but one wonders what democratic mandate has Syrian people given them to support the armed rebels in their military struggle? or for that matter, even UN has not supported Armed support for the rebels. but i guess all these international bodies are only intended to serve the Might rather than the Right.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Yeah, point taken. Let just hope things will turn better for the Syrians in the near future bro.

atrocities is not answer to my question. its always relative when it comes to comparison. and my question was:

and force is not being used to topple the government and that also for last more than one year? Ever wonder why is US against the clause in one of the UN bills which states that world governments wont support non-state elements? The Syrian state has a legitimate right to defend itself against the armed non-state actors which are being militarily and diplomatically supported by the outside regimes. West speaks of democracy but one wonders what democratic mandate has Syrian people given them to support the armed rebels in their military struggle? or for that matter, even UN has not supported Armed support for the rebels. but i guess all these international bodies are only intended to serve the Might rather than the Right.

 

[K-Xeroid]

@ajpirzada Your questions have too much Will ? Like if anything is uncertain then a massacre monster who's family ruled syria for forty years would become a legitimate Ruler for Syria. You yourself support change but If a Pakistani Ruler starts killing hundreds of people so what do think ? What will going to happen in our country?

 

[Zeeshi]

i am with syria........

 

[ajpirzada]

@ajpirzada Your questions have too much Will ? Like if anything is uncertain then a massacre monster who's family ruled syria for forty years would become a legitimate Ruler for Syria. You yourself support change but If a Pakistani Ruler starts killing hundreds of people so what do think ? What will going to happen in our country?

like i said elsewhere that all the middle easter rulers are dictators and will do anything if their rule is threatened. but the question is what sort of a change are you supporting in exchange? this one:

Later the same day, a U.N. commission revealed “strong, concrete suspicions” that the opposition military forces—and not the government—were responsible for the use of sarin nerve gas in Syria.The commission directly contradicted U.S. and British allegations, which the Syrian government has always denied.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/middle...t-syria-news-discussions-483.html#post4259161

at the same time the Syrian state has a legitimate right to defend itself against the armed non-state actors which are being militarily and diplomatically supported by the outside regimes and also al-Qaeda. I do not believe in any change which comes from raising the arms against your own government as this will only lead to anarchy. moreover when such a revolution will collapse without outside support then its not really a revolution. arent Libya and Iraq very clear examples infront of us?

 

[K-Xeroid]

like i said elsewhere that all the middle easter rulers are dictators and will do anything if their rule is threatened. but the question is what sort of a change are you supporting in exchange? this one:



at the same time the Syrian state has a legitimate right to defend itself against the armed non-state actors which are being militarily and diplomatically supported by the outside regimes and also al-Qaeda. I do not believe in any change which comes from raising the arms against your own government as this will only lead to anarchy. moreover when such a revolution will collapse without outside support then its not really a revolution. arent Libya and Iraq very clear examples infront of us?

US casts doubt on claim Syrian rebels may have used sarin gas | World news | The Guardian
Those Claims of Carla Del ponte itself being suspected and rejected and As far as Regime's rights matter then they killed have many unarmed protesters and Kids , They have used non-state actors against locals .One thing you really need to understand that no matter how many laws you make once if they failed to provide justice and equality to public then no force can stop them from being rebellious. Arabs are no different from others , They also have some limits of their patience . I'm sure we Pakistanis even cannot tolerate any family rule us for 10 years. If we could able to control our region by force , then Balochistan and FATA regions haven't been felt towards anarchy .

 

[Controlled Pair]

The Arabs are tying themselves in knots over the whole situation

Pathetic people whose hatred of Israel dictates their lives and thoughts. Absolute cavemen.

 

[ajpirzada]

US casts doubt on claim Syrian rebels may have used sarin gas | World news | The Guardian
Those Claims of Carla Del ponte itself being suspected and rejected and As far as Regime's rights matter then they killed have many unarmed protesters and Kids , They have used non-state actors against locals .One thing you really need to understand that no matter how many laws you make once if they failed to provide justice and equality to public then no force can stop them from being rebellious. Arabs are no different from others , They also have some limits of their patience . I'm sure we Pakistanis even cannot tolerate any family rule us for 10 years. If we could able to control our region by force , then Balochistan and FATA regions haven't been felt towards anarchy .

US will obviously cast doubt on anything which does not suit them. WMD existed till their was no need of them. similar with other cases.
my point is simple. as i said in another of my posts:

Al-Nusra shows allegiance to Zawahiri. West and their puppets in Saudia want to undermine al-Nusra by supporting the moderate rebel fighters. the moderate rebel fighters cannot win without al-Nusra's support and are thus fighting alongside them. Now comes the implicit but paradoxical conclusion: the future Syrian government comprising of many rebel factions will not be influenced by Al-Nusra (and therefore al-Qaeda) and will be involved in less human rights violations than the current government.
Global Insight: Syria’s jihadis deal blow to rebel cause - FT.com

how does this make sense? and if the Syrian government is so evil, why isnt there enough support for the rebels within the country for them to overthrow the government? remember Egypt? there was enough public support to overthrow the government and the world saw it.

and again the question comes back to if overthrowing the government will improve the lives of the Syrian people? Again im repeating myself again and again to put across a simple point. let me say it again and ask u if you really think that the post-war Syria lead by the Al-Nusra backed government will be better than the pre-war Syria under Al-Asad? Do you think that there will be more peace? Do you think that the economic and social lives of people will improve? if so, how long will it take for this country to rebuild itself? Will there be more freedom for the people? Will there not be anarchy in the form of sectarian wars, al-qaeda elements and others after the government is overthrown? Why will Syria have fate different than what we see in Iraq and Libya today?