As Officials Look Away, Hate Speech in India Nears Dangerous Levels

[Maula Jatt]

How?

The Hindus did this shit themselves, Pakistani liberal voices are likely confined within Pakistan

he blames his car breaking down on liberals

 

[Binod]

No. Your a Indian you won’t understand.

Do any sane person understand you.

 

[TheSolution]

True. I'm not in huge disagreement with you

Pakistani Liberals are often apologists or appeasers of the Hindutva. The collective approach of appeasement by silenced Muslim Liberal (media) across the world has emboldened the Hindutva in their pogroms against Muslims.

They are a plague to society, 100% agree

I would also add that the very idea of co-existing as Hindus and non-Hindus is very difficult, especially a practising society

No one in their right mind could just over look people worshipping a literal cow, drinking their piss and bathing in their shit.

And also people generally like eating beef, they don't worship it, especially Muslims who commonly use it to give Qurbani.

At least with Islam, even if you are atheist, it's pretty much like every other religion, they pray, have some things they prefer not to do/eat, and believe in a God, it's not difficult to co-exist.

But there's an inherent conflict of interest here with Hindus/non-Hindus (especially Muslims)

 

[Bilal9]

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They dominate the higher echelon of Pakistani society and media.

Ever wondered how Dawn News is always underplays this and promotes the Islamapbobic agenda through false equivalency...

I don't know how a Pakistani feminist can say this with a bold-face. Wearing a Hijab comes from women's internal desire to cover their hair and their body per the dictum of Allah. This is their own volition, because of their own religiosity and for their own mental peace. In Bangladesh for example more women choose a Hijab as a tool of displaying feminine modesty and therefore respectability in the eyes of men.

Making these comments are not feminist - they are basically kowtowing to 1960s Western values whose time has come and gone. These people think dyeing their hair blonde and giving it a perm treatment is the height of sophistication and progressive value.

In the 2020's, even Western S&P 100 enterprise companies have HR rules which respect the rights of Muslim women to wear the Hijab to the workplace. And if this is the case, I don't know what "feminism" and cheap Western backdated values these Western Kowtowing agents are talking about.

 

[Clutch]

I don't know how a Pakistani feminist can say this with a bold-face. Wearing a Hijab comes from women's internal desire to cover their hair and their body per the dictum of Allah. This is their own volition, because of their own religiosity and for their own mental peace. In Bangladesh for example more women choose a Hijab as a tool of displaying feminine modesty and therefore respectability in the eyes of men.

Making these comments are not feminist - they are basically kowtowing to 1960s Western values whose time has come and gone. These people think dyeing their hair blonde and giving it a perm treatment is the height of sophistication and progressive value.

In the 2020's, even Western S&P 100 enterprise companies have HR rules which respect the rights of Muslim women to wear the Hijab to the workplace. And if this is the case, I don't know what "feminism" and cheap Western backdated values these Western Kowtowing agents are talking about.

They suffer from an inferiority complex. They will only attack the Muslim woman's scarf but never the Sikh turban or the Jewish Yammakah

 

[Goritoes]

I hope India elect Yogi for next PM

 

[khansaheeb]

Activists and analysts say calls for anti-Muslim violence — even genocide — are moving from the fringes to the mainstream, while political leaders keep silent.​

Pilgrims performing rituals in the Ganges river in Haridwar, one of India’s holiest cities. A group of militant monks used Haridwar as the site to call for violence against Muslims.
Credit...Saumya Khandelwal for The New York Times


By Mujib Mashal, Suhasini Raj and Hari Kumar
Published Feb. 8, 2022Updated Feb. 9, 2022

HARIDWAR, India — The police officer arrived at the Hindu temple here with a warning to the monks: Don’t repeat your hate speech.

Ten days earlier, before a packed audience and thousands watching online, the monks had called for violence against the country’s minority Muslims. Their speeches, in one of India’s holiest cities, promoted a genocidal campaign to “kill two million of them” and urged an ethnic cleansing of the kind that targeted Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar.

When videos of the event provoked national outrage, the police came. The saffron-clad preachers questioned whether the officer could be objective.

Yati Narsinghanand, the event’s firebrand organizer known for his violent rhetoric, assuaged their concerns.

“Biased?” Mr. Narsinghanand said, according to a video of the interaction. “He will be on our side,” he added, as the monks and the officer broke into laughter.

Once considered fringe, extremist elements are increasingly taking their militant message into the mainstream, stirring up communal hate in a push to reshape India’s constitutionally protected secular republic into a Hindu state. Activists and analysts say their agenda is being enabled, even normalized, by political leaders and law enforcement officials who offer tacit endorsements by not directly addressing such divisive issues.

A statue of the Hindu god Hanuman at Dasna Devi temple in Ghaziabad, India.
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After the monks’ call to arms went viral, Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his top leaders remained silent, except for a vice president with a largely ceremonial role who warned that “inciting people against each other is a crime against the nation” without making a specific reference to Haridwar. Junior members of Mr. Modi’s party attended the event, and the monks have often posted pictures with senior leaders.

“You have persons giving hate speech, actually calling for genocide of an entire group, and we find reluctance of the authorities to book these people,” Rohinton Fali Nariman, a recently retired Indian Supreme Court judge, said in a public lecture. “Unfortunately, the other higher echelons of the ruling party are not only being silent on hate speech, but almost endorsing it.”

Mr. Narsinghanand was later arrested after he ignored the police warning and repeated calls for violence. His lawyer, Uttam Singh Chauhan, said his speeches may have been a reaction to anti-Hindu comments by Muslim clerics.

Mr. Modi’s governing Bharatiya Janata Party did not respond to requests for comment.

“Does the prime minister or home minister need to address every small, trivial issue?” said Vinod Bansal, a spokesman for the World Hindu Council, a party affiliate. “The accused have already been arrested. The secular groups will always highlight such incidents, but not when Hindus, Hindu gods and goddesses are under attack.”

The hate speech is stoking communal tensions in a country where small triggers have incited mass-death tragedies. The monks’ agenda already resonates with increasingly emboldened vigilante groups.

Vigilantes have beaten people accused of disrespecting cows, considered holy by some Hindus; dragged couples out of trains, cafes and homes on suspicion that Hindu women might be seduced by Muslim men; and barged into religious gatherings where they suspect people are being converted.

The chief priest at Dasna Devi temple, Yati Narsinghanand, has called for violence against Muslims. A sign bearing his image warns Hindus to have at least five children or see their lineage destroyed.
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In recent weeks, global human rights organizations and local activists, as well as India’s retired security chiefs, have warned that the violent rhetoric has reached a dangerous new pitch. With right-wing messages spreading rapidly through social media and the government hesitant to take action, they are concerned that a singular event — a local dispute, or an attack by international terror groups such as Al Qaeda or the Islamic State — could lead to widespread violence that would be difficult to contain.

Gregory Stanton, the founder of Genocide Watch, a nonprofit group, who raised similar warnings ahead of the massacres in Rwanda in the 1990s, told a U.S. congressional briefing that the demonizing and discriminatory “processes” that lead to genocide have been well underway in India.

In an interview, he said Myanmar was an example of how the easy dissemination of misinformation and hate speech on social media prepares the ground for violence. The difference in India, he said, is that it would be the mobs taking action instead of the military.

“You have to stop it now,” he said, “because once the mobs take over it could really turn deadly.”

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The Dasna Devi temple in Uttar Pradesh state, where Mr. Narsinghanand is the chief priest, is peppered with signs that call to prepare for a “dharm yudh,” or religious war. One calls on “Hindus, my lions” to value their weapons “just the way dedicated wives value their husbands.”

The temple’s main sign prohibits Muslims from entering.

At the Dasna Devi temple, a placard read: “This is a holy place for Hindus. Entry of Muslims is forbidden."
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The monks’ anger is rooted in a sense of internalized victimhood that dates to the founding of India’s republic after independence from British rule in 1947. When Pakistan was carved out of India in a bloody partition that left hundreds of thousands dead, the Hindu right was incensed that the founding fathers turned what remained of India into a secular republic.

They celebrate a Hindu hard-liner’s assassination of Mohandas Gandhi — a renowned symbol of nonviolent struggle, but to them a Muslim appeaser. Pooja Shakun Pandey, a monk at the Haridwar event, has held re-enactments of Gandhi’s assassination, firing a bullet into his effigy as blood runs down.

The forces that shaped the ideology of Gandhi’s assassin, Nathuram Godse, have slowly risen from the fringes to dominate India’s politics.

Hindu nationalists put garlands on a statue of Mohandas Gandhi’s assassin, Nathuram Godse, in 2020.
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Mr. Modi, the prime minister, spent decades as a mobilizer for the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, the century-old right-wing organization to which Mr. Godse belonged. Mr. Modi’s party sees the group as the fountainhead of its political ideology and has relied heavily on its vast network of volunteers to mobilize voters and secure victories.

When he was chief minister of Gujarat, Mr. Modi saw firsthand how unchecked communal tensions could turn into bloodletting.

In 2002, a train fire killed 59 Hindu pilgrims. Although the cause was disputed, violent mobs, in response, targeted the Muslim community, leaving more than 1,000 people dead, many burned alive.

Rights organizations and opposition leaders accused Mr. Modi of looking the other way. He rejected the allegations as political attacks.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi paid homage at a memorial to Gandhi in New Delhi on Jan. 30, the anniversary of his killing in 1948.
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After he rose to the country’s highest office in 2014 on a message of economic growth, there was hope that Mr. Modi could rein in the fury. Instead, he has often reverted to a Hindu-first agenda that inflames communal divides.

In 2017, Mr. Modi picked Yogi Adityanath, a monk who had started a youth group accused of vigilante violence, to lead Uttar Pradesh, India’s largest state with more than 200 million people.

In his saffron robe, Mr. Adityanath has legislated a ban on religious conversion by marriage, an idea that he calls “love jihad,” in which Muslim men lure Hindu women to convert them. His group has served as moral police, hounding interfaith couples and punishing anyone suspected of disrespecting cows.

As Mr. Adityanath campaigned for re-election, the group held a meeting in New Delhi around the same time as the monks’ event. With a picture of Mr. Adityanath behind them, attendees took an oath to turn India into a Hindu state, even if it meant killing for it.

Swami Amritanand, an organizer of the event in Haridwar where monks called for violence, defended Mr. Narsinghanand: “He said nothing wrong.”
Credit...Saumya Khandelwal for The New York Times

Mr. Adityanath’s office would not address his current relations with the group, but said the chief minister “had nothing to do” with the meeting.

Dhirendra K. Jha, a writer who has studied the rise of Hindu nationalism, said he worried that extremists now dominate India’s politics in such a way that those who call for violence feel protected.

“Unless this is dealt with, the kind of consequences that may happen — I can’t even imagine, I don’t dare to imagine,” said Mr. Jha.

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The choice of Haridwar as the venue for a bold call to violence was strategic — the city attracts millions of visitors annually, often for religious festivals and pilgrimages.

The riverbank was recently busy with seers and worshipers. Families picnicked and took dips in the chilly water. Even as some religious authorities appeared troubled by the calls for violence, they were reluctant to condemn them.

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Pardeep Jha, who organizes a pilgrimage festival in Haridwar, said he believed in making India a Hindu state through peaceful means. Credit...Saumya Khandelwal for The New York Times
Pradeep Jha, the main organizer of the city’s largest pilgrimage festival, said he shared the vision of a Hindu state, not through violence but by urging India’s Muslims to convert back; in such a view, everyone in India was Hindu at one point.
“I believe we need to pursue our goals with patience, with peace,” he said. “Otherwise, what is our difference with others?”
Mr. Narsinghanand has made a name for himself doing the exact opposite.
As he sees it, India’s Muslims — who account for 15 percent of the population — will turn the country into a Muslim state within a decade. To prevent such an outcome, he has told followers that they must “be willing to die,” pointing to the Taliban and Islamic State as a “role model.”

In 2020, Mr. Narsinghanand was among the hard-liners stoking tensions during months-long protests over a citizenship amendment seen as discriminatory toward Muslims. He called for violence, using the language of a “final battle.” “They are jihadis, and we will have to finish them off,” he said.

The choice of Haridwar as the venue for a dangerous call to violence was strategic — the city attracts millions of visitors annually, often for religious festivals and pilgrimages.
Credit...Saumya Khandelwal for The New York Times

Riots followed in New Delhi, with 50 people killed, a majority of them Muslims.

Mr. Narsinghanand was always observant, but not an extremist, according to his 82-year-old father, Rajeshwar Dayal Tyagi.

He was a top college student, earning a scholarship to study food technology in Moscow. There, he helped open a vegetarian restaurant for Indian students that still operates.

Returning to India in 1996, he started a computer training institute with money from Mr. Tyagi’s pension. He soon dedicated his life to being a monk, leaving behind his wife and young daughter, said his father.

“I feel pained, I feel angry, it gives me stress,” his father said. “It’s not a good idea to use harsh words against anybody.”

Despite the police warning, Mr. Narsinghanand and his fellow monks repeated their messages of hate, including on national television and social media.

“This Constitution will be the end of the Hindus, all one billion Hindus,” Mr. Narsinghanand said at a virtual event. “Whoever believes in this system, in this Supreme Court, in these politicians, in this Constitution, in this army and police — they will die a dog’s death.”

Pilgrims on a bank of the Ganges in Haridwar in April.
Credit...Idrees Mohammed/EPA, via Shutterstock

When the police came to arrest an associate, he threatened the officers, who politely urged him to calm down. “You will all die,” Mr. Narsinghanand is seen in a video telling them.
The police arrested Mr. Narsinghanand on Jan. 15, and he was charged in court with hate speech.

“He said nothing wrong,” said Swami Amritanand, an organizer of the Haridwar event. “We are doing what America is doing, we are doing what Britain is doing.”

Mr. Amritanand said the call for arms was justified because “within the next 10 to 12 years there will be a horrible war that will play out in India.”

Late last month, the monks again sounded a violent call to create a Hindu state, this time at an event hundreds of miles away from Haridwar in Uttar Pradesh. They threatened violence — referencing a bombing of India’s assembly — if Mr. Narsinghanand was not released.

Ms. Pandey described their actions as defensive. “We must prepare to protect ourselves,” she said.

To the Haridwar police, the event in Uttar Pradesh did not count as a repeat offense. Rakendra Singh Kathait, the senior police officer in Haridwar, said Mr. Narsinghanand was in jail because he had acted again in the city; others like Ms. Pandey got a warning.

“If she goes and says it from Kolkata, it doesn’t count as repeat here,” Mr. Kathait said.

A statue of Gandhi in New Delhi. Gandhi is a symbol of nonviolent struggle around the world, but to some Hindu monks, he is a Muslim appeaser.
Credit...Saumya Khandelwal for The New York Times


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Hindus are striving for genocide and Indian Muslims are sleeping and the UN is longing for the spectacle of genocide. UN must act now and if it is not to allow the repeat of word war 2. The world must act now by applying economic pressure to stamp this evil now.

 

[SIPRA]

"Direct Action" is the only honorable course left for Indian Muslims. That needs political unity.

 

[Clutch]

Hindus are striving for genocide and Indian Muslims are sleeping and the UN is longing for the spectacle of genocide. UN must act now and if it is not to allow the repeat of word war 2. The world must act now by applying economic pressure to stamp this evil now.

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They even have little Hindutva childrenvin that picture running with machete to chop up Muslims....

 

[Titanium100]

The Indian leaders could be miscalculating here... lets just say India descents into civil war.. This shxt will spilover to Pakistan as cities and regions could change hands inside India as some rogue elements will probably launch BMs or rockets into pak as they can't help themselves.. Pakistan and Afghanistan could conduct incursions once they see India's army is drained.. It is in Indias best interest to avoid disharmony not Pakistan or neighbouring countries..

Subhanallah could serve as god send easy victory for Pakistan and a complete gift like a penalty kick.. As Civil wars are draining black holes

 

[TheSolution]

The Indian leaders could be miscalculating here... lets just say India descents into civil war.. This shxt will spilover to Pakistan as cities and regions could change hands.. Pakistan and Afghanistan could conduct incursions once they see India's army is drained.. It is in Indias best interest to avoid disharmony not Pakistan or neighbouring countries..

Subhanallah could serve as god send easy victory for Pakistan and a complete gift or a penalty kick.. As Civil wars are draining black holes

Stop saying this publicly, just be like me and provide the fuel ️ ️

And realistically, they are very aware of this, but their hatred is deep rooted enough to still go through with it to look for alternatives.

Who knows what master plan they have produced to create this situation knowingly and then force convert or wipe out the Muslims?

 

[Titanium100]

Stop saying this publicly, just be like me and provide the fuel ️ ️

And realistically, they are very aware of this, but their hatred is deep rooted enough to still go through with it to look for alternatives.

Who knows what master plan they have produced to create this situation knowingly and then force convert or wipe out the Muslims?

There are no plans in place just some very uneducated priests pushing them into unecessary direction and wars by folks who live in a bubble that hindus can't lose as if this is a movie and they are the romantic heroes.. Forgetting entirely about that 1000 years as if it didn't exist just recently.. We overran them 4 times there is not a village or city we haven't taken before inside India..

 

[TheSolution]

There are no plans in place just some very uneducated priests pushing them into unecessary and wars who live in a bubble that hindus can't lose as if this is a movie and they are the romantic heroes.. Forgetting entirely about that 1000 years as if it didn't exist just recently.. We overrun them 4 times there is not a village or city we haven't taken before inside India..

RAW is not incompetent, they fund state propaganda campaigns and individual IT cells to control general population perception and you think they don't monitor the domestic situation?

Something is cooking up here.

 

[Titanium100]

RAW is not incompetent, they fund state propaganda campaigns and individual IT cells to control general population perception and you think they don't monitor the domestic situation?

Something is cooking up here.

RAW has no control over the media or anything except foreign affair issues despite RAW being capable they have no control and also the army leading generals and think tanks are competent but they have no control either about domestic affairs just defense..

But BJPs uneducated priests are the once with all the power hence there is no plan nothing and this is a driverless car a kid you not.. BJP has made sure to eliminate intellectuals and the once they have left is secluded to foreign affairs or defense they have no say elsewhere..

Bro you have ppl like Yogi roaming around whos extremely ignorant....

 

[khansaheeb]

There are no plans in place just some very uneducated priests pushing them into unecessary direction and wars by folks who live in a bubble that hindus can't lose as if this is a movie and they are the romantic heroes.. Forgetting entirely about that 1000 years as if it didn't exist just recently.. We overran them 4 times there is not a village or city we haven't taken before inside India..

That's not what the evidence shows. It is a repeat of Hitler's playbook and very plainly seen over the last two decades. It is the result of the HindJew alliance the most dangerous combination in human history.