Army’s one-day spending equivalent to one-year education ministry budget

[yusufzoi]

You should just think about it, the same army is protecting your bum from being kicked by the enemy, and enabling you to surf the net sitting on your comfy sofa. Do we really need to argue with your pointless rhetoric?

Yes we do need to argue about it, its healthy to argue so we know how each other feels.

The army is a corrupt institution that has blood of its people on its hand.

Its a institution that has cost us half of pakistan which is bangladesh now, so much for bravery they surrendered.

They torture, kill and hand over pakistanis to foreign elements.

They couldn't stop obl raid.

They couldn't even liberate kashmir, that azAd kashmir was even made azad by tribes of fata.

They are a leach on pakistani society, they take but never give.

I am free and sleep freely not because of pak army, I am free like my forefathers because I have balls of steel and strong belief and ak47.

 

[Ignited Mind]

Phir Kashmirs ko ku Kha rahay ho may sach baat ki thi apnay ap say pochay

Agar humne nahin khaya toh tum kha loge. Farak kya ha?

 

[TaimiKhan]

Wrong figures & explanation.

The education budget of the federal & provincial govts when combined together comes to somewhere the 110-120Billion mark per year, thus the education budget is not equal to the one day of what the military spends.

Writers / people just quote the federal budget allocation of the education which off course is low, since that budget is for the schools, colleges or universities which are under the Federal govt, but people forget that major educational infrastructure is under the provincial govt.

If my memory corrects me, Rs.26B was allocated by Sindh govt for education, Punjab had also something close to 23-25B, Baluchistan has also Rs.20-21B for education and the KPK govt also something above Rs.20B mark. Add to it the Rs.16B for HEC which used to be above Rs.21-22B or more during the time of Military ruler Mushy uncle, but the democrazy govt reduced tht HEC budget and then add into it the Rs.5B budget of the federal education ministry.

So, the article does not shows the clear picture and misquotes the figures to just fulfill another military bashing agenda.

Plus,we have heard about the thousands of ghost schools stories which eat out of the education budget, the teachers on the payrolls but in reality are not there etc etc, all this money going into someone else's pocket. Corruption at its high.

If this current budget of education is used effectively and efficiently, i can assure you we can start getting quality human resource as well as literacy rates going up without the need to ever mention the military budget. Right now even if we reduce the military budget and give it to education and health, majority will go to corruption, so better keep it utilized by the military who tleast do it effectively and efficiently when it comes to how the education budget is used.

And by the way, the same military is running hundreds of schools and has given thousands of scholarships to the poor children who can get education and be a part of this society through the Fauji Foundation and other en devours.

So, its the civilian govt which needs to reduce corruption and use their funds effectively and efficiently, once they do tht and show results, then we can give them more budget.

 

[TaimiKhan]

I am free and sleep freely not because of pak army, I am free like my forefathers because I have balls of steel and strong belief and ak47.

I wonder where the balls of steel when in the people of Swat, Bajaur, Mohmand, Waziristan and other tribal areas that they had to ask for military help in removing the Taliban from their areas.

It would be better if the discussion is kept as per the topic and no other BS is brought in.

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Anymore off topic comments, infractions will follow.

Anyone even replying to off topic comments will get the infraction.

 

[Jango]

Yes we do need to argue about it, its healthy to argue so we know how each other feels.

The army is a corrupt institution that has blood of its people on its hand.

Its a institution that has cost us half of pakistan which is bangladesh now, so much for bravery they surrendered.

They torture, kill and hand over pakistanis to foreign elements.

They couldn't stop obl raid.

They couldn't even liberate kashmir, that azAd kashmir was even made azad by tribes of fata.

They are a leach on pakistani society, they take but never give.

I am free and sleep freely not because of pak army, I am free like my forefathers because I have balls of steel and strong belief and ak47.

OBL raid was not up to them, we stood down once we knew US was there. Lets not take the thread off topic.
What are your beloved Zardari and Gilani doing ,??,,which is better than what the army does, see the defence allocation which Taimi has posted, Your beloved PM and President waste alot of money for their food, their electricity, and would you believe it Their expenditure for their gardens is in the late millions!!, just for gardens. Nobody pays taxes, nobody thinks what he has done for the country, the most simple thing to do is to say the army is ruining the country.?, i ask you to tell me the exact things which the army has done to ruin the country in the past 5 years, don't talk about 71' because that was a war, that was a whole other thing. Talk about now!!.

 

[RoYaL~GuJJaR]

Really surprising and interesting stats.

 

[VCheng]

The relative allocation of budgets between education, health and defence is caught between many opposing forces. I have highlighted the imbalances many times, but it must also be realized that the pressures that create these imbalances are immense as well.

 

[Leader]

the comparison itself is ridiculous, sans leta hai tou khana kyon khata hai, khana khata hai tou pani kyon peta hai ? Pani peta hai tou parta kyon hai?, ager nai parta tou apni hifazat kyon kerta hai ?

however, the comparison should be more appropriate if its between extravagant expenses by government and a small portion is spend on Education. because thats un-necessary..

off topic: spend each penny on army by Pakistani Nation must be under check and scrutiny... for example there is no need to waste money on new GHQ in pindi, no need for swat cantonments, that money spent would be wasted...

 

[Dalai Lama]

okay can we do some thing about this can you stop them if we dont spent this much on army indian will eat us alive

If true nuclear deterrence has been achieved, I think it's perfectly possible to cut down on military expenses.

 

[SMC]

Where are we getting these non sense figures from? We spend roughly 2-2.5% of our GDP on education, and somewhere in the ball park of 3.8 - 4% of our GDP on military. And our typical military budget for peace time has been 3-3.5%, so even this 3.8%-4% figure isn't showing the full picture. So worst case scenario, army's one day spending is equal to two day's spending for education.

Are some people really this much deluded so as to believe such obvious and nonsensical lies? And some really this much into lies and propaganda?

 

[VCheng]

Where are we getting these non sense figures from? We spend roughly 2-2.5% of our GDP on education, and somewhere in the ball park of 3.8 - 4% of our GDP on military. And our typical military budget for peace time has been 3-3.5%, so even this 3.8%-4% figure isn't showing the full picture. So worst case scenario, army's one day spending is equal to two day's spending for education.

Are some people really this much deluded so as to believe such obvious and nonsensical lies? And some really this much into lies and propaganda?

For 2010-11, the defence expenditure has been estimated at 16% by The Economist.

 

[aakash_2410]

Yeah but even if Pakistan only spends 1% on education it needs to spend 365% on defense for this news to be true. Which is just impossible.

 

[SMC]

For 2010-11, the defence expenditure has been estimated at 16% by The Economist.

Yes. Economist also saw pigs flying on the island of atlantis.

 

[yusufzoi]

No point debating, most of the people here are ex military or have relations in the military. They will only believe what they want to believe, corrupt souls, corrupt minds.

 

[Mo12]

Great news, well done.