Army Rushes To Rescue Boy From hole in haryana

[Awesome]

Oh man I can't tell you how much two entities of India are pissing me off. The media, which has overly sensationalized this rescue operation and for the past 20 hours they're harping "Bass ab thori hi derr main Prince (the kid's name) ko bacha lia jayega" and then the army which has shown its inadequacy, by not been able to rescue the kid for almost 48 hours now.

Everyone present there and callers calling to Star News are saying mostly one thing. Put a rope down, some sort of strong bag, and ask the kid to hop on and pull him out! After all he went down that hole in the same way he can very well come out.

It's a small hole no doubt, but its an even smaller kid.

The media has basically screwed over the Army since they know the entire country is watching. They are under close scrutiny. So they came up with a bizzare plan to dig a tunnels to the point where the kid is! Stupid, stupid, stupid.

http://news.monstersandcritics.com/...p/Army_rushes_to_rescue_boy_from_Haryana_well

Kurukshetra, July 22 (IANS) A five-year-old boy fell into a 60-foot deep well in Haryana and army rescuers Saturday said it may take a few more hours to save him.

Prince accidentally fell into the unused well in Hatheri village near Shahbad town Friday night.

Army officials were digging a new tunnel parallel to the well to rescue the boy.

Kurukshetra sub-divisional magistrate (SDM) S.K. Lohia said that every effort was being made to save the boy.

Water, food and a camera were lowered into the well to help the boy.

Over 20 personnel of the Indian Army's 66 Engineer regiment based in Ambala were conducting the rescue mission.

 

[Spring Onion]

Hey did the boy was rescued ? or they still digging the tunnel.

BTW is there any training to rescue someone from a well i mean cant the Indian Army carryout this rescue it dosnt seem much difficult.
Woner why cant they ?

 

[Officer of Engineers]

Wells are not dug with rescue in mind. When something gets stuck in a well, there's usually no room to go around and hoised ropes or other anchoring system to pull that thing out. The only other way around that is to dig a parallel shaft in which case you have to be careful not to weaken the walls of the well and collapse it.

The only other way is to break that stuck thing in half.

It's usually an animal in which case, 99 times out of 100, we shoot the animal and then break the body to bring it out.

Obviously, you cannot do that with a human being.

 

[Spring Onion]

Wells are not dug with rescue in mind. When something gets stuck in a well, there's usually no room to go around and hoised ropes or other anchoring system to pull that thing out. The only other way around that is to dig a parallel shaft in which case you have to be careful not to weaken the walls of the well and collapse it.

The only other way is to break that stuck thing in half.

It's usually an animal in which case, 99 times out of 100, we shoot the animal and then break the body to bring it out.

Obviously, you cannot do that with a human being.

:thumbsup: hmmmmmm understood.

but Sir why the concerned people go for doing something about it i mean we cant let be like this, The technology is there the world is advancing in every field and we still cant find a solution for pulling someone from a well :what1:

 

[Officer of Engineers]

For modern countries, wells are too small to fit a person in. Electric pumps get the water to the surface. For technology absent areas such as rural Indian, Pakistan, China, etc wells have to be larget enough so that you can get at the water.

That is just the way things are.

 

[Jay_]

Hey did the boy was rescued ? or they still digging the tunnel.
BTW is there any training to rescue someone from a well i mean cant the Indian Army carryout this rescue it dosnt seem much difficult.
Woner why cant they ?

The boy was rescued. And before passing your expert opinions on the Army Engineers, you got to atleast read what was happening. With out knowing a shred you said it wasnt much difficult.
Try to dig a well adjacent to an existing one, which has loose sand and the earth keeps caving as you dig in all while a kid is stuck in the adjacent well.
:idiot:

 

[Spring Onion]

The boy was rescued. And before passing your expert opinions on the Army Engineers, you got to atleast read what was happening. With out knowing a shred you said it wasnt much difficult.
Try to dig a well adjacent to an existing one, which has loose sand and the earth keeps caving as you dig in all while a kid is stuck in the adjacent well.
:idiot:

Sir being a layman it was meant to get information and get some understanding so thts why i had asked cuz i realy dont know about this tech side


And Sir Officer had done a good job to provide information unlike ur post Sir jiiiiiiii:smile:

 

[Jay_]

Sir being a layman it was meant to get information and get some understanding so thts why i had asked cuz i realy dont know about this tech side

Oh, so I guess this is the way layman ask questions..

BTW is there any training to rescue someone from a well i mean cant the Indian Army carryout this rescue it dosnt seem much difficult. Woner why cant they ?

 

[RAPTOR]

Maybe Star News should have told the mumabites to go spit in the well instead of each other, that way that little critter could float out.



Civic body campaigning against spitting habits

MUMBAI MUSINGS BY NITHIN BELLE

26 July 2006
IT IS one of the most disgusting habits, and millions of residents in Mumbai indulge in the obnoxious practice. Spitting is one of the most despicable habits, afflicting all sections of society — the poor and the rich, the young and the old, the educated and the uneducated, all indulge in this practice.

While many commuters spit from the upper-deck of double-decker buses, or from speeding trains, even some motorists roll down the windows of their air-conditioned sports utility vehicles (SUVs) or luxury cars and spit out a mouthful.
The Bombay Municipal Corporation (BMC) frequently launches high-profile campaigns to curb the practice, but they fizzle out in no time. Of course, BMC inspectors do not have to travel to distant suburbs in search of the offenders; many corporators, civic officials and employees can be found spitting all over the heritage building that is the BMC headquarters opposite the VT station.
Over the last three months, the BMC collected less than Rs8 million as fines from offenders. A serious and sustained campaign could raise millions more, besides curbing the offensive practice.
The BMC now plans to take on this disgusting habit of Mumbaiites through a series of measures that it feels could become effective. Each ward in the city would be equipped with an enforcement squad, comprising four guards, who would penalise the offenders on the spot.
It is also proposed to jack up the fines from Rs50 to Rs500 for every act of nuisance committed in public places. According to additional municipal commissioner R.A. Rajiv, who is in-charge of this special campaign, those not able to rustle up the necessary fines, would have to do an hour’s community service, which could include sweeping the road, clearing up garbage, or wiping off graffiti from walls.
This is the first time that the concept of compulsory community service, in lieu of fines and penalties, is being introduced in India. Rajiv is determined to extend this campaign to all public places, including railway stations and government offices. He has already suspended a BMC official for dereliction of duty, and imposed a stiff fine on a housing society for dumping garbage in the compound.
It remains to be seen how effective the campaign to clean-up Mumbai will be this time around. All previous attempts have flopped miserably, as the guilty go unpunished, encouraging others to carry on as before.
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?xfile=data/subcontinent/2006/July/subcontinent_July955.xml&section=subcontinent&col=

 

[sigatoka]

Maybe Star News should have told the mumabites to go spit in the well instead of each other, that way that little critter could float out.

Hilarious,

 

[Jay_]

Maybe Star News should have told the mumabites to go spit in the well instead of each other, that way that little critter could float out.

I see, is it the way they do rescue operations in Pakistan? May be by calling Karachiites?

Remember, anything you can say about India would mostly apply to Pakistan, so "think" before you post, I guess thats too much to expect from you.

Knocking civic sense into betel chewers’ heads

By Fasahat Mohiuddin

KARACHI: Throwing trash where one thinks fit and spitting Pan where one feels like spitting are two distinctive features of our ways of life, which refuse to go away.

In this context, one shouldn’t be surprised if someone suggested instilling civic sense among our citizens first, before launching any project to systematically dispose of Karachi’s solid waste.

The City Nazim has unveiled a plan to put the function of garbage lifting into private hands from Feb 15, perhaps in the belief that it will make our city tidy and clean. But unless civic sense is exhibited by the city dwellers, any scheme designed to drive out mounds of litter from our streets is bound to fail.

Realizing Karachiites’ old failing, City Naib Nazim Nasreen Jalil recently asked them to own this city and have a sense of belonging with it. Her implicit message was: "Change your ways and be civilized."

Knocking civic sense into Karachiites’ heads is an uphill task, because many of them are not ready to accept that their mannerism needs some refining. Housewives are used to throwing the garbage bag in back lanes or littering it on the ground. They don’t seem to realize that this reckless disposal of refuse creates a mosquito breeding den, and that no-one but their own family might be the first to suffer from its ill-effects.

Mothers don’t train their kids to dispose of waste in dustbin. If only they were to be trained, a modest beginning towards a cleaner atmosphere could be made. The rubbish thrown outside the house becomes an eyesore, but people don’t seem to care. They are least bothered if their act has left a blot on the landscape.

Children are also noticed plucking off a newly-planted sapling just for nothing, which shows a pattern: they have an eagerness for destruction. The city Nazim will need to allocate a substantial sum of money for educating people about their civic responsibilities. But because a majority of our people is uneducated, such a task would face a great challenge. People should be educated by showing them, through TV clips, the ugliness of their acts, and made aware of how mindless throwing of garbage is not even in their own advantage.

A polite way of education will work, and people might start realizing that they need to change their ways. If only they could keep their surroundings uncluttered, we might not need to do much to clean up the city mess.
http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/jan2006-daily/24-01-2006/metro/k9.htm

Karachi was considered a, “Jewel in the crown” (During the Raj 1843 – 1947). It’s historical areas possess the power to fascinate and bewitch visitors. The architecture of the Colonial period and the Anglo-Mughal buildings; take a person on a journey of once upon a time. The facade, of the remnants of history is mesmerizing; the detailing is meticulous, unable to be reproduced. The decorative moldings, domes, arched entrances, verandas and balconies produce mysterious effects which conjure visual memories of a rich heritage to be proud of. If I had my way I would preserve this heritage for generations to come.

My warm attachment and strong affection towards Karachi brings about emotional out bursts when I see ugly buildings being replaced by these priceless pieces of architecture. This great misfortune befalling on the great city of Karachi strikes a discordant note. To my horror I saw a monstrous construction in front of Hotel Marriot, adjacent to the majestic Frere Hall. Stammering, I inquired, “have they shifted the central jail here?” I was informed that the monstrous structure was the Japanese Consulate. The residential area, behind the titanic structure was invisible, lush green trees had been chopped; the grandeur of Abdullah Haroon Road had been visibly effected.

Today the city wears the look of an ill-planned and neglected city; everyday senseless buildings are being erected which gives the impression of overgrown grass in a jungle. Neon signs of all shapes and sizes have been displayed haphazardly, all over the city lacking aesthetic sense and common sense. The authorities are incapable of implementing simple laws such as banning graffiti, usage of plastic bags that are choking the drains and slowly taking over Karachi and spitting of pan all over the side walks and walls. Imposing a fine, on littering would be like blowing the whistle to make the public fall in line; it will turn them into disciplined citizens aware of their civic duty.
http://pakobserver.net/200605/13/Articles02.asp?txt=‘Koi lotta dey meray betay huay din’

 

[Awesome]

Put a rope in, pull the kid out. They were using ropes to give him food, light and a cctv cam.

It was a tiny hole, but a tinier kid. The whole thing was such a PR drama for the Army Engineers which completely looked lost out there.

They got the local people to make the adjacent well (the kid was in a hole not the well) a little deeper. Then they got the local laborers to make the tunnel, I believe they missed the direction once too. Then when the tunnel was dug up, when the laborer was getting the kid out a smart looking Army officer went down.

Then there was some 1 hour long hold up while getting the kid to crawl out.

Then finally the smart looking officer comes out a hero with the kid all wrapped up in a towel.

Lol, by the end of it, politicians came there too showing the onlooking public the thumbs up when the kid was coming out. Meanwhile songs are being chanted all over India. It turns out it was Prince's Birthday that day too... lol.

 

[Jay_]

Ugh, its easy to blow your trumphet, but they did what they are supposed to do....

for the uninitiated, Col already gave the info,

Wells are not dug with rescue in mind. When something gets stuck in a well, there's usually no room to go around and hoised ropes or other anchoring system to pull that thing out. The only other way around that is to dig a parallel shaft in which case you have to be careful not to weaken the walls of the well and collapse it.

Frantic efforts were under way on Sunday to pull out a 5-year-old boy,
Prince, 45 hours after he fell into the 60-feet deep hole of a submersible tubewell in Haldera village.

Haryana Chief Minister Bhupinder Singh Hooda said Army engineers were consulting experts around the world.

Mr Hooda accompanied by local MP Naveen Jindal visited the site and offered all assistance to rescue the boy. Mr Hooda said a nine member team of the Mumbai Fire Brigade had left in an AN-32 Indian Air Force (IAF) plane for the site to join the rescue operations.

The plane is expected to land at the IAF base in Ambala Cantt, from where the team will be reaching Haldera village. Disaster experts from ONGC have also reached the spot to assist in the rescue operation.

Over 45 hours have passed since Prince, son of Ram Chander, a daily wage labourer, fell into the hole of the tubewell while playing with his friends on Friday evening.

Sunday also happens to be his birthday.

"We will rescue the boy and our engineers are doing a fine job," Commandant of 65-Engineers Col SK Vidarthi said. He said his offficers and jawans have been at the scene of the "battle" ever the since the Army was summoned from Ambala Cantt for help on Saturday as efforts of the district administration proved fruitless.

The trapped boy is continuously being fed on milk, chocolates, biscuits and other food items and is in "fine health", Col Vidarthi said, indicating the pictures received on the Closed Circuit TV-cameras (CCT). The boy is also being supplied with water and glucose in the 16-inch wide hole in which he is trapped. Oxygen is being pumped into the hole from a cylinder with the help of a tube to help the boy breath easily.

"Food items are being lowered into the well with the help of a rope and we are encouraging the boy to eat these items" the Army officer said. The Army officials were a worried lot on Saturday night when the boy failed to respond, but encouraging words from his father and the village folk lifted his spirits and he again began to respond to the voices coming from the mouth of the tubewell hole.

"He is a brave boy and has been responding positively, which shows his courage in the face of the impossible," the Colonel said.

Col Vidarthi explained the details of the rescue operation where it was impossible to pull out the boy from above as the width of the well was just 16 inches. "So we located a abandoned well just ten feet away. From here we are boring a tunnel which will take us to the submersible well hole and the exact spot where the boy is trapped," the Colonel said, pointing out that it would be through this tunnel that the boy will be pulled out.

The Army has pressed into service a Collar Crane to remove the mud and debris of the tunnel which the engineers are digging. The rescue operation was hampered on Saturday night due to rain but resumed on Sunday morning.

A team of doctors led by Dr Praveen Garg from Shahbad is camping at the spot to provide oxygen and glucose to Prince. Deputy Commissioner TP Sharma and SP Sanjay Kumar are also at the site.

The local police has cordoned off the entire area and requested the onlookers to move to locations away from the well. The boy's father and other villagers are constantly praying and hoping for the "miracle to happen". The resident of Haldera and nearby villages have organised 'langar' (free community kitchens) for the rescue teams and others assisting in the operation.

Haryana Governor AK Kidwai has offered prayers for the safety of the trapped boy, whom he described as "a brave son of Haryana".