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Are Pakistani Ahmadis loyal to their homeland?

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Consider this before buying your next Umra package: Jabbar sahib can grab your shoulder, beam you to the Kaaba from anywhere in the world, where you can offer prayers and return back home in no time.

The idea is laughable on many accounts. It rejects physical laws, discards scientific evidence, and makes a mockery of Islamic practices too. Add to the giggles that it was not an illiterate mullah, but Pakistan’s star scientist, AQ Khan, who made this assertion. Please watch the following video clip from 37:30 minute onwards.


That’s where the laughter ends. Because, as you may have noticed in the video, his claim was preceded by a brazen attack against Ahmadis in the following words:

“Hum Bhopalion ko do cheezon per fakhr hai: aik tau ye ke humaray haan aaj tak koi ghaddaar peda nahin hua, aur humain iss per bhi fakhr hai ke humaray haan aaj tak koi Qadiani peda nahin hua.”

“We Bhopalis are proud of two things: First, that Bhopal has never produced a traitor. And then we are also proud of the fact that we have never produced a Qadiyani”

What? Is AQ Khan alleging that he is a patriot while Ahmadis are not loyal to Pakistan? Does he have data to support this absurd allegation or is he pulling just another ‘Jabbar sahib?’

Regardless, the crowd’s reaction to his hate mongering suggests that many have bought into this propaganda. Therefore it’s important to confront such vitriol against a beleaguered community.

That AQ Khan is an opportunistic businessman, not a diehard Pakistani fan, is the topic for a separate piece altogether. But first, consider the 80-year long record of the loyalty of Pakistani Ahmadis.

1930s: In 1932, when Mr Jinnah retreated to the UK in frustration over the second Round Table Conference, it was the Ahmadi Missionary in London, Abdur Raheem Dard, who persuaded him to return and fight for the Muslims of the subcontinent. The Sunday Times London (April 9, 1933) published a candid acknowledgment by Mr Jinnah:

“The eloquent persuasion of Imam left me no way of escape.”

Mr Khan, is this the disloyalty of which you accuse Ahmadis of?

1940s: Sardar Shaukat Hayat on page 147 of his book “The Nation That Lost Its Soul,” mentions an incidence where Quaid-e-Azam asked him to seek Ahmadis’ support for the Muslim League. The Ahmadiya khalifa, Mirza Bashirud-Din Mahmood, responded:

“Please convey to Quaid-e-Azam that we have been praying for his mission from the very beginning. Where the help of his followers is concerned, no Ahmadi will stand (in elections) against any Muslim Leaguer.”

Remember, Mr Khan, back then your beloved Mullahs – who pretend to be the poster children of Pakistan’s loyalty today– would call your country ‘Napakistan’.

1940s: At the request of the Pakistani government, Ahmadis formed a military unit called ‘Furqan Force‘ to support Pakistan in the First Kashmir War of 1948. Furthermore, this unit’s troops were drawn from the Ahmadiyya community – even its expenses were paid for by Ahmadis.

Mr Khan, please tell your audience that at that time, you and your family were loyal Indians, still living in Bhopal.

1950s: Even the critics of Islam considered Zafrullah Khan, an Ahmadi and Pakistan’s first foreign minister, ‘as important to Pakistan’s independence as Thomas Jefferson was to the emergence of the United States’. He not only represented Pakistan on the Kashmir dispute in the Security Council but also fought for the independence of other Muslim countries including Libya, Somalia, Eritrea, Sudan, Tunis, Morocco, Palestine and Indonesia during 1948-54.

Then why do the critics call you the Merchant of Menace, Mr Khan? )

1960s: Major General Iftikhar Janjua Shaheed (Hilal-e-Jurat), an Ahmadi, led the Pakistan Army at the Rann of Kutch sector during the 1965 War and became the only Pakistani general to give his life in combat at the Chamb sector in 1971. In the same war, two Ahmadi brothers, Lt General Akhtar Hussain Malik (Hilal-e-Jurat) and Lt General Abdul Ali Malik (Hilal-e-Jurat) valiantly led the Kashmir and Sialkot sectors.

Even the most talented Ahmadis are not promoted to higher ranks now. But they still serve in Pakistan’s army and they still give their lives in service.

1960– 70s: Mirza Muzaffar Ahmad, the grandson of the founder of Ahmadiyya Community, oversaw the signing of the Indus Basin Treaty and the procurement of development assistance from multilateral donors for the construction of Mangla Dam and Tarbela Dams as the Federal Finance Secretary. Years later, as executive director of the World Bank, he helped in the servicing and rescheduling of these loans after the dismemberment of Pakistan in 1971.

Okay. Making a dam is not as hot as making a bomb. You win on this one.

1970 – 80s: While Pakistan’s future leaders were dreaming of dual nationalities, Dr Abdus Salam,the first and only Pakistani Nobel Laureate, refused all offers to accept any foreign citizenship. He lived and died as a Pakistani, and was instrumental in helping 500 Pakistanis to study abroad.

Tell me, Mr Khan, weren’t you a naturalised citizen of Holland?

1990s: Despite persecution, millions of Ahmadis decided to keep their businesses in Pakistan. Their honest dealings were even inadvertently, acknowledged on the record.

You too, Mr Khan, operated your business of selling nuclear technology from Pakistan and your dishonest dealings are also on the record.

2000s: When was the last time an Ahmadi was responsible for Pakistan’s disgrace on a national or international level?

Really? Do you have any data to support your allegations of Ahmadiyya disloyalty? By the way, ‘Ahmadis are the agents of British or Jews’ is not factual data. It’s mudslinging.

2010s: The Ahmadiyya Khalifa, Mirza Masroor Ahmad, urged his community to offer a voluntary fast every week and two voluntary prayers (nafal) every day for the safety of Pakistan and its Ahmadi community.

Pakistan’s demagogues have effectively barred Ahmadis – no matter how learned they may be – from holding executive positions. But how will they bar them from praying for the safety and security of the country?

Mr AQ Khan, I maintain: All distinguished Ahmadis have helped improve Pakistan’s image on the international stage. Refuting this fact in a scholarly fashion will be hard for you as you admire phony miracles over real evidence. You resort to hateful speech instead of intelligent conversation.

Thanks, in part, to your hate mongering, Pakistani Ahmadis are not allowed to visit Saudi Arabia. They could really use the services of your uncle Jabbar. Only if he doesn’t have a problem beaming Ahmadis for a quick prayer in the Kaaba.


Are Pakistani Ahmadis loyal to their homeland? – The Express Tribune Blog
 
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Ahmadis may be Pakistanis but they aren't Muslim!
 
No one in Pakistan is a true patriotic

from a small level clark/police to president/PM

everyone is corroupt
 
No one in Pakistan is a true patriotic

from a small level clark/police to president/PM

everyone is corroupt
 
He said Ahmedis and traitors. Now that does not mean Ahmedis are traitors. Where did you get that.

Calling Ahmedis as Ahmedis is not incitinf violence against them. That what they are.

He clearly said we never had a traitor from amongst us. That is in a historical context when muslim rule in India came to an end, it was the traitors who hastened the downfall. Bhopal was a princely state and he meant it in that context.

If you want to find mischief, then yes you can read it as "Ahemdis are traitors".
 
I must say, ahmadies are loyal to Pakistan, there should be no doubt in it. History clerifies itself.

In 1930's, Allama Iqbal himself requested 2nd Imam of Jamaat e Ahmadiyya to take responsibility of president of All India Kashmir Comittee....

In 1932, when Quaid e Azam went to UK, Molana abdul rahim dard sahib convinced him to go back and struggle for muslims of india. This is why Quaid e azam came to Ahmadiyya mosque in London and said Imam of ahmadies left me no way to escape....

In 1946, ahmadies were side by side with Muslim League while other so-called mulsim ulema were with congress. They were saying Quaid e azam as "kaafir e azam".

In 1947, Quaid e azam handed over the most important ministry, i.e.ministry of foreign affairs to Ch.Zafarullah khan sahib, who was an ahmadi. He brought kashmir issue to UN and paased UN resolutions in favour of muslims.

Major Iftikhar janjua, Gen.Abdul Ali malik, Gen. Akhtar Hussain Malik, Dr.Salam, M.M.Ahmad are some of the famous personalities who did a great work for the stability and defence of pakistan.

One can see the historical books for detail.....
 
This man makes it a point to prove to the world that he's nothing but a two bit technician and a thieving liar.
 
I had this Ahmedi girlfriend for a short period of time in college and I honestly didn't know about this divide between Ahmedi's and Sunni's - she changed my view about Muslims in general because she was out going, considerate for other religions, open minded and not a conservative - but knowing that Muslims do not consider Ahmedi's Muslims is a revelation now because she was different than the typical Muslim.

Her whole family, parents, brother and sister including her are doctors and She is now a doctor in Seattle.
 
There's lots of Pakistani literature out there that claims ahmadis work for british intelligence. That actually fits in well with my theory about Jinnah and british raj, as it was ahmedis who coaxed Jinnah to go back to india and become a politician of muslims, Jinnah subsequently never went to jail, was in secret correspondence with Churchill and even offered a knighthood.

Anyways the video is removed, here's a short clip with the mentioned AQ khan part

Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan Insulting Qadianis 14 Agust 2012 - YouTube
 
Abdus Salam was a Ahmadi. When he received his Nobel Prize he wore traditional Pakistani clothes

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During his acceptance speech for the Nobel Prize in Physics, Salam quoted the following verses from the Quran:

Thou seest not, in the creation of the All-merciful any imperfection, Return thy gaze, seest thou any fissure? Then Return thy gaze, again and again. Thy gaze, Comes back to thee dazzled, aweary.

He then said:

This, in effect, is the faith of all physicists; the deeper we seek, the more is our wonder excited, the more is the dazzlement for our gaze.

My grandfather knew him in Imperial College London and together they made the Pakistani Association He said, he was a nationalist despite thrown out of Pakistan for being an Ahmadi.
 
Dr Saheb needs rest and play golf on his fat retirement package.

Ahmadis may not be Muslim but are loyal Pakistanis, they have participated in our science,military and civil service.
 
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