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Arabs slam Pak stand on Yemen and Call on Pakistani Parliament to Fall in Line

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oh man I can see the difference very clearly, the statements that came from Pakistan as far as 6 months ago and statements coming out now, a clear difference. Which is fine by me I am no lovers of Saudis, but my problem is Pakistan is doing it under US pressure...their next target is Saudia Arabia..would you want to see ISIS reaching Saudia and doing what they did in Iraq and Syria. think a bit far not just yemen.

Houthis are not isis, they haven't massacred and beheaded anyone on religious basis, this is political problem. Still we are not backing off from the DEFENSE of saudia arabia, the unanimous decision was passed to defend the territorial integrity of saudia arabia and no sane muslim will argue in this matter. We Will not join them in their AGGRESSION. We will defend them even if we have to use nuclear weapons.

This can be politely made them to understand that our circumstances do not allow us to become the part of any aggression but we can free up the Saudi forces from protecting key areas by stationing our troops in places such as Harmain, Damam, Najran, Tabuk, and Ras Al-Mishab etc. That way we can fulfill our commitments and express solidarity with KSA while at the same time avoid confrontation with Iran.

That's a very good suggestion. I just don't want my army to invade another muslim country on their behalf. But we will surely defend them, come what may.
 
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I am worried now.

Let me do a roll call,,, to check my friends are all well..

@JonAsad @Imran Khan

I got a pay raise yesterday- all iz well-

Let's see Pakistan's current list of less than friendly nations:

India - check
USA - check
Israel - check
Afghanistan - check
Iran - check
and now Saudi - check

Wonder how long before China gets added to that list.

You guys really have only one friend left that counts. Do not mess that up ......

Otherwise there is really nobody going to be coming for you when you need them most.

Should we be worried somehow?-
 
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Libya's Gadafi helped Pakistan more than any of these idiots in Middle East did.

That is true in a sense. Pakistan was part of the coalition that liberated Kuwait from Saddam, the editor in chief of one of the most important Kuwaiti government mouthpiece media outlet says this about Pakistan: Pakistani blackmail

Reviewing the military history is necessary for Pakistan to abandon its illusion of being a superpower in the Islamic world. It was defeated in all wars, starting from the war against India that led to the birth of Bangladesh in 1970['s ] until the war against Taleban whose terrorist activities Pakistan could not curtail.

These people clearly have trouble understanding that relationship between nations is based on mutual respect for national interests of others. Where agreements happen, cooperation goes forward, where disagreements arise, these have to be respected.
 
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Not you guys.

Once you got your nukes, your national ambitions were complete.

Its party time now. Don't miss it. Come back.

I dont know why the mighty oil rich arab states with latest western aircrafts gear and gadgets want the poor Pakistan to be on their side- i mean what we have to offer- maybe having nukes adds to something- maybe eating grass to make nukes had some substance or value- maybe the arabs found the logic behind our the grass eating ambition i guess- maybe the rest of the world including you too will someday-
 
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I dont know why the mighty oil rich arab states with latest western aircrafts gear and gadgets want the poor Pakistan to be on their side- i mean what we have to offer- maybe having nukes adds to something- maybe eating grass to make nukes had some substance or value- maybe the arabs found the logic behind our the grass eating ambition i guess- maybe the rest of the world including you too will someday-

You are a source of ready nukes for the Saudis. Period.

The US knows it. As does Iran.
 
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However, these things come from negotiations but if you simply shut the door in the first instance then what?
No one has shut the door. It's hard to know what is going on behind the doors. I can make a very good estimate that they want Pakistan to fight their war in Yemen. Taking responsibility for their security is one thing, bombing another nation is one thing.
Remember that every sin is noted down. Every child, woman and innocent man killed, Pakistan will have to answer for that.
If today we bomb a poor helpless nation like Yemen, tomorrow we will be a poor helpless nation being bombed by someone else.
 
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You are a source of ready nukes for the Saudis. Period.

The US knows it. As does Iran.

Yuuuuup- and thats why the one that matters the Saudis (because of the holy places) have been given assurances at the highest level that our commitment to their safety is and will remain uncompromised- unfortunately for UAE its just another arab country that actually does not matter in the bigger picture- UAE can suck balls-
 
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I read about 40% of the Iranian population is sunni and in the past in the UAE I have come across such sunnis though i did not ask about their political views.

I think we sunnis need to stop looking at shias as enemies. That would be perhaps the first step to resolving this ever increasing dispute. I think having a large population of minorities helps any country love its people more and respect the diverse make up of the country. I haven't seen Iranians to be as abusive to sunnis as Saudis are to shias.

I think first and foremost to resolve this dispute we need to begin talks under the banner of ijtehad.

Today, the TwelverShia branch of Islam is the official state religion and to which about 90% to 95%[228][229] of Iranians officially are. About 4% to 8% of Iranians are Sunni Muslims, mainly Kurds and Balochs. The remaining 2% are non-Muslim religious minorities, includingChristians, Bahais, Mandeans, Yezidis, Yarsanis, Zoroastrians, Jews.[29][230]
Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
As you said, shias are less hostile toward non-shias than Wahhabis... In Iran a small minority of "End of Time" Evanglist type of people are against Sunnis...but based on my personal exprience in decades I can see certain that %99 of Iranian shias have no problem with Sunnis... but I am also sure that %99.9 of all Iranians no matter what religion are against suicide bombing Takfiris Wahhabis...
In some relatively big cities of Iran, the majority is with sunnis or they are a huge minority... cities like Zehedan, Sanandaj, Taibad, etc... Persians, Kurds, Arabs, Lurs, Baluch and Azeris are living together in those cities with no problem... for example, I have been to a city in Golestan provinc, north of Iran, near Caspian sea... since decades ago and after severe droughts, thousands of Sunni Balouchis from Pakistan border region moved to there... the area is Shia majority with significant Sunni Turkmen but I never noticed any problems among them... they learnt to mix and live in peace...
I think all Wahhabi hostility phenomenon has started or soared when King of Jordan announced publicly that Shias are forming a Crescent of Shism from Mediterranean to Persian gulf... then other leaders poured more fuel on this fire... they wanted to use this as a political tool to get the support of GCC and Egypt but childishly burned all the ME along...
They talk about the emergence of shia crescent but they never say... Shias in those regions were there for centuries and now after a long time are forming shia majority states as Iraqis and Iranians did...Iraq was and is a shia majority country...it was under the rule of minority sunnis for decades and now after hey changed the system to democracy, they have shia leaders... it is natural.... so they shia and sunnis were living in ME for more than 1300 years and now after a while a few inexperienced leaders play with fire and talk dangerous...
 
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Yuuuuup- and thats why the one that matters the Saudis (because of the holy places) have been given assurances at the highest level that our commitment to their safety is and will remain uncompromised- unfortunately for UAE its just another arab country that actually does not matter in the bigger picture- UAE can suck balls-

I thought there were an equal number of holy places in Iraq and some in Iran as well.

No Pakistani nuclear umbrella for those?
 
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That the modern State of Israel was established "on religious grounds" is a commonly-held misperception of Pakistanis. It was not. Jews are a people and Judaism is their religion. There is no religious test of Israeli citizenship by immigration; rather, it's by descent, or orthodox conversion (which is a years-long process of "joining the tribe", so to speak.)

I know that. But such diplomacy need not mean public silence. IMO, public silence in this case means inactivity and thus indicates a decline in the motivations, quality, and initiative of Pakistani diplomats over the past few decades.
To be honest, the state of Israel was created on religious grounds for Jews have no other link to Levant other than on religious grounds. If it were for ethnic reasons or any other such reason, then Jews would've been settled in Sumer [In Iraq] which was their original homeland where they lived until eventual migration to Egypt, the Exodus and Dispersal by the Romans.

Even so, I don't particularly remember people with white skin and blonde hair from Palestine until the Ashkenazi Jews of Europe started claiming to have ancestral link to Palestine.
 
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Pakistan should enforce peace through talks with Iran. But cannot afford to diverge its resources at the moment. If it goes worst then Pakistan should use its resources.
 
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