Alert: India Preparing for Nuclear War?

[Bhaarat]

Yes kargil was a limited war, but even limited war broke down, then who will control it or keep it limited.

In Kargil International community interferd, especially Bill Clinton asked Pakistan to retrieve back and he asked india to let Pak troops go back.

Yes, you are correct.

This time, if war brakes who will control it to limited? I guess it will expand.

The same US. This time it will do so more stringently, because it is present in this region and has interests here.

 

[MZUBAIR]

Pakistan doesn't have MIRV's, and the AAD and PAD will be ready for induction in 2 or 3 years, in the meantime they're looking into Israeli(Arrow) and American systems(PAC-3). Not that I think we should nuke each other or anything, just giving you a lil update.

I hav proves that, PAK hav MIRV's. i read that in different newzpapers in 2006/7.



I hav heard this few years bck when Mushi was president and Pak used to hav frequent tests,
its called Multiple warheads on a single missile

It has been recently reported by the Pakistani Press namely Jang that Pakistan has the ability to MIRV its missiles. This has been seen as possibly one of the greatest achievement to date for Pakistan. It has also been reported that Pakistan would likely MIRV its Shaheen-II and Ghauri II missiles

Pakistan weapons of mass destruction, Doctorine section

 

[MZUBAIR]

very informative

thanx

but for this to happen the nuclear warhead needs to go off.

when the missiles are shot out of the air, the warheads do not detonate. the warhead is inactive for most of the journey to ensure that if the missile falls in friendly territory , no unnecessary death occur.

so if indian missile defences shoot down the incoming nuke missiles, the worst to worry is a little nuclear contamination in a 500m area around where the warhead fell.

Dear, in war nothing IF comes .
Accept it that the whole subcontinent will look like an ASH.

On small issues India get on for Nuclear Strike ......that is childish. And I was also surprised when I heard same from General Deepak.

Hav u ever heard that pakistan ever give a threat of Nuclear strike in India.
Pakistan ever said for second strike to keep India aware of its capability and strength which is still balanced in the region.

I think India shld make mature and senseable policy to make peace in region, they have misconceptions that Pakistan is afraid from these nuke and war threats.

 

[paritosh]

I hav proves that, PAK hav MIRV's. i read that in different newzpapers in 2006/7.



I hav heard this few years bck when Mushi was president and Pak used to hav frequent tests,
its called Multiple warheads on a single missile



Pakistan weapons of mass destruction, Doctorine section

Pakistan has never tested re-entry vehicles...while we have.
I don't care what Jung has to say...point out the tests from which we can conclude the possibility of PAk having MIRVs.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Pakistan has never tested re-entry vehicles...while we have.
I don't care what Jung has to say...point out the tests from which we can conclude the possibility of PAk having MIRVs.

Think about it for second, if you send in something , in air , and it splits into 20 missiles , they WILLL 100% FALL down , there is no need to test that its called Gravity

 

[Red Dwarf]

,they WILLL 100% FALL down there is no need to test that its called Gravity

Agreed.

Think about it for second, if you send in something , in air , and it splits into 20 missiles ,

What about this ?. Will gravity helps you to push your missiles and split it to 20 parts.

 

[paritosh]

Think about it for second, if you send in something , in air , and it splits into 20 missiles , they WILLL 100% FALL down , there is no need to test that its called Gravity

no dude...a ballistic missile travels through the exosphere and re-enters the earth's atmosphere...if it is not adequately shielded...it would burn-out before it hit's it's targets and it would not hit it's target with it's navigation systems getting burnt out even if the warhead was to survive.
in a MIRV...the problem is more complicated...the various warheads have to re-enter the earth's atmosphere separately...in much smaller capsules...the smaller the re-entry capsule the better should be it's protection...
remember that no body can beat the US in terms of designing of re-entry vehicles but even the Columbia and challenger went up in flames because of falty ceramic brick lining...
not easy designing re-entry vehicles mate.

 

[ambidex]

no dude...a ballistic missile travels through the exosphere and re-enters the earth's atmosphere...if it is not adequately shielded...it would burn-out before it hit's it's targets and it would not hit it's target with it's navigation systems getting burnt out even if the warhead was to survive.
in a MIRV...the problem is more complicated...the various warheads have to re-enter the earth's atmosphere separately...in much smaller capsules...the smaller the re-entry capsule the better should be it's protection...
remember that no body can beat the US in terms of designing of re-entry vehicles but even the Columbia and challenger went up in flames because of falty ceramic brick lining...
not easy designing re-entry vehicles mate.

Please add one more thing 'effective desired target'. Sprinkling multiple war heads indiscriminately to the charm of gravity will the last thing anyone with stable mind will do.

 

[MZUBAIR]

Pakistan has never tested re-entry vehicles...while we have.
I don't care what Jung has to say...point out the tests from which we can conclude the possibility of PAk having MIRVs.

Mr paritosh, I know batter then u wt my country have and wt not. I have also given u proves, and I read those things in world respective papers few years back. Its up to u to believe it or not. Doesnt matter if u believe it or not, no one cares.

Pakistan MIRV Missile capability in 2002

25 May 2002
Pakistan announces that it will test a new series of short- and intermediate-range ballistic missiles at the Tilla Range; the missiles that will be tested are nuclear capable. During the test, each missile will carry a payload equivalent to the weight of a nuclear warhead. The missiles will be fired toward sea-based targets, and space-based satellites will be used to compile the results of the data generated during the tests. According to Pakistani sources, Pakistan has acquired the capability to produce "multi-independent re-entry vehicles (MIRV) that can deliver three to seven bombs over an area of 80,000 square kilometers. A Pakistani government spokesperson announces that several countries including India, Iran, and the United States have been given prior notification of the tests. [Note: The claim about MIRVs cannot be verified independently.]
—"Pakistan Reportedly Develops Capability for Multi-Warhead Missiles," BBC Monitoring International Reports, 25 May 2002; in Lexis-Nexis Academic Universe, 25 May 2002, web.lexis-nexis.com; Rahul Bedi, "Pakistan Tells India It Will Test Its Missiles Today," Irish Times (Dublin), 25 May 2002, City Edition, World News, p. 13; in Lexis-Nexis Academic Universe, 25 May 2002, web.lexis-nexis.com.

 

[Moorkh]

Dear, in war nothing IF comes .
Accept it that the whole subcontinent will look like an ASH.

On small issues India get on for Nuclear Strike ......that is childish. And I was also surprised when I heard same from General Deepak.

Hav u ever heard that pakistan ever give a threat of Nuclear strike in India.
Pakistan ever said for second strike to keep India aware of its capability and strength which is still balanced in the region.

I think India shld make mature and senseable policy to make peace in region, they have misconceptions that Pakistan is afraid from these nuke and war threats.

i was pointing out to the fact that nukes are credible deterrence if they are sure to go off. if they burn out in mid flight or are shot down, no one cares .

and as to the question of "IF". in war everything is based on if just because nothing is known. u can not predict much in war and the logic always goes as : "if i take step A what will the enemy do" and "IF the enemy does B what will i do"

gen kapoor is talking about limited war below the nuclear threshold not a nuclear war. so we are threatening pakistan with military action not nuclear war.

it is pakistan which has been threatening india with nuclear war ever since both countries go nuclear. this threat of a nuclear showdown is what stopped india from crossing the border after the parliament attacks.

 

[Hulk]

The writer of this article was a journalist?

 

[paritosh]

Mr paritosh, I know batter then u wt my country have and wt not. I have also given u proves, and I read those things in world respective papers few years back. Its up to u to believe it or not. Doesnt matter if u believe it or not, no one cares.

MZUBAIR...what department do you chair?
the report states that you have re-entry tech...and that is it.
It's pretty straight forward actually...
but it takes a hell lot of more than that to develop one...
don't get what I am trying to say?
sample this...

India Launches Rocket to Test Re-Entry

Posted on: Wednesday, 10 January 2007, 15:38 CST

SRIHARIKOTA, India -- India on Wednesday launched a rocket carrying a satellite designed to test re-entry vehicle technology that could be used in a future manned space mission.

The red-and-white rocket climbed into space from the Satish Dhawan Space Center in Sriharikota in the southern Indian state of Andhra Pradesh to the cheers of scientists and engineers at mission control.

The rocket also put the first Indonesian-built satellite into space, Indonesian officials said.

"It is a great day for the country. We have done it and done it correctly. The mission is a success," said G. Madhavan Nair, chairman of the Indian Space Research Organization.

India has not announced specific plans for a manned space mission, but an unmanned moon mission is scheduled for 2008.

The rocket carried the 1,210-pound Space Capsule Recovery Experiment, or SRE-1, designed to test re-entry technology, the ISRO said.

The capsule will orbit Earth for 13 to 30 days before re-entering the atmosphere and plunging into the Bay of Bengal off India's east coast, where it will be recovered, the statement said. It will test technology for "navigation, guidance and control during the re-entry phase."

SRE-1 will also carry out experiments involving microgravity conditions.

The rocket also carried an Indian remote-sensing satellite and two foreign-built satellites - the Lapan-Tubsat from Indonesia and the Argentine-built Pehuensat-1.

Lapan-Tubsat was the first satellite made by Indonesia, said Agus Nuryanto, deputy at the National Institute of Aeronautics and Space of Indonesia. He said it was built with assistance from the Technical University of Berlin.

The Pehuensat-1 is a 13-pound Argentine nano-satellite built by the University of Comahue of Argentina, the Amateur Satellite Association of Argentina and the Argentina Association for Space Technology. It is intended to provide a platform to perform amateur radio experiments between the country's colleges and universities, ISRO said.

All four satellites were successfully placed in orbit, said mission director K. Narayanamurthy.

The launch was the first since July, when an attempt to launch a communications satellite failed after the rocket veered off course in the separation stage and exploded.

India has had 11 successful rocket launches since its first satellite in the INSAT series was put into orbit in 1982.

India earlier put its satellites in orbit aboard European Ariane rockets launched from the EU's space center in French Guiana.

source...
India Launches Rocket to Test Re-Entry - Space News - redOrbit

development of re-entry vehicles needs space launches...
which launch confirmed the workability of your mirvs?
I hope we understand what MIRVs are and how they function.

now waht the report implicitly suggests is that PAk has put multiple warheads in an already proven missile system to be launched separately...
which would be a perfect MIRV functioning...but just that it all comes to the re-entry capsules...see a ballistic missile is made to withstand the heat generated during re-entry...and keeps the explosive warhead from a pre-mature cooking up...
a missile is at least 10 times the size of the warhead...the larger the surface area more the dissipation of heat the lesser are the chances of being vaporized mid-air just as the case with comets and meteorites...
ejecting warheads simply...would cook them warheads...you need proper re-entry vessels for these warheads that shield them from the heat...and it takes some amount of space-launching to get to that....

 

[Spitfighter]

paritosh, Pakistan may indeed have MIRV's, they have no need to test them, just as long the Chinese have.

 

[paritosh]

paritosh, Pakistan may indeed have MIRV's, they have no need to test them, just as long the Chinese have.

even I feel that they have MIRVs...but they like gloating about the fact that "they develop better tech than us" is what doesn't go down easy with me...

 

[Kavin]

If war brakes between India and Pak...I feel that some one surely use nukes.....may be Pak or may be india.....who ever is losing will surely use them.

If you're right, Pakistan will use nuke first.

How the heck will a nuclear armed nation retreat if gets nuked? I don't find any rational in using nukes in a war, even the country is loosing.

And there are no limited war concepts ...if war brakes it wouldn't be limited thats the discussion going in Pak media these days.

Every war has it's limit. The Indo-Pak war limit is