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Alert: India Preparing for Nuclear War?

There is too much rumor now a days, such news makes me laugh. Forget about nuclear war, I am willing to bet there will not be any war, anyone willing to bet 10000$ on this.

Dear, if Mumbai attack story repeats then would u still say that India will keep silent.

To be very honest, Pak Gov, Pak Miltary and Intelligent (ISI , etc) forces were never behind those mumbai attack. Pak also facing that ugly disease.....Indian Gov is not understanding that.....India gave proves against few people which were arrested and are going to punish (proves are attached followed to this post). India also claming Hafiz saeed name but without any prove Pak Gov and courts canot do any thing.

Now if any thing such like mumbai attack happen in India and who ever would be responsible there would be high probability of war between Pak and india.
We know that, world know that Pak wasnt behind those Mumbai acts nither Pak canot stop those people coz they are aiding by forigners but I am sorry that india is not accepting that. The only solution of this issue is joint startegy of Pak and India. Besides that soltuion of kashmir is above to all.

History knows that whenever PPP came in the Gov they terminated those Anti India groups. May be u remember, when Bay-Nazir Bhutto came in the gov right after Zia tunor she gave names of all people Khalistan movement leaders to the indian Gov. (I am not PPP lover and i dont like most of their policies, but I m refering facts)

So. after all that its not bad if Pak is preparing for self defence and taking Indian threats seriously. We are not sleeping and we cant ignore these threats.

People envolved in mumbai attacks were captured and will be punished. News image for ur reference

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FanBoy story.
Meaningless.

Nuclear war if occurred will be a "surprise" event.

If war brakes between India and Pak...I feel that some one surely use nukes.....may be Pak or may be india.....who ever is losing will surely use them.

And there are no limited war concepts ...if war brakes it wouldn't be limited thats the discussion going in Pak media these days. :cheers:
 
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Ahmn, we do not ned 1000 missiles to blast pakistan, Brahmos will be detected in ur radar, only after it hits ur ground..... And Moreover AGNI-3 ,AGNI-1,Prithvi series, We have many of them, and Failures do occur, but that dosent mean that we are vulnurable to an attack.

And we have many other missiles defense systems like PAD and AAD, they have been tested successfully and will be Inducted soon... so All that you can do is just watch ur missles get burst like crackers in the mid air if launched against us.....

First its not easy to destroy missel in air, its almot impossible. Even USA, Russia dont have such technology that garentees to destroy nukes missels (cruise, Ballestic , bombs etc) in air.

Second incase if such technology introduced and its destroys missel in air and the air surface would be in India then still it will effect whole city or even country. Nuke is not a rocket or small missel.....its bigger then the dreams of anyone.

Let me tell u the effects of Nuclear Blast even in the air.

Most people in India and in Pakistan (and in the U.S.) probably do not know that as many as 9 out of 10 people -- or more -- who die from a nuclear blast, do not die in the explosion itself. Most people probably think that if they die from a nuclear blast, they will simply see a flash and get quickly cooked.

Those within approximately a six square mile area (for a 1 megaton blast) will indeed be close enough to "ground zero" to be killed by the gamma rays emitting from the blast itself. Ghostly shadows of these people will be formed on any concrete or stone that lies behind them, and they will be no more. They literally won't know what hit them, since they will be vaporized before the electrical signals from their sense organs can reach their brains.

Outside the circle where people will be instantly vaporized from the initial gamma radiation blast, the light from the explosion (which is many times hotter than the sun) is so bright that it will immediately and permanently blind every living thing, including farm animals (including cows, sacred or otherwise), pets, birds while in flight and not to mention peasants, Maharajah's, and Government officials -- and soldiers, of course. Whether their eyes are opened or closed.

This will happen for perhaps 10 miles around in every direction (for a 1 megaton bomb) -- further for those who happen to be looking towards the blast at the moment of detonation. Even from fifty miles away, a 1 megaton blast will be many times brighter than the noonday sun. Those looking directly at the blast will have a large spot permanently burned into their retinas, where the light receptor cells will have been destroyed. The huge bright cloud being nearly instantly formed in front of them (made in part from those closer to the blast, who have already "become death"), will be the last clear image these people will see.

Most people who will die from the nuclear explosion will not die in the initial gamma ray burst, nor in the multi-spectral heat blast (mostly X-ray and ultraviolet wavelengths) which will come about a tenth of a second after the gamma burst. Nor will the pressure wave which follows over the next few seconds do most of them in, though it will cause bleeding from every orifice. Nor even will most people be killed by the momentary high winds which accompany the pressure wave. These winds will reach velocities of hundreds of miles an hour near the epicenter of the blast, and will reach velocities of 70 miles per hour as far as 6 miles from the blast (for a 1 megaton bomb). The high winds and flying debris will cause shrapnel-type wounds and blunt-trauma injuries.


Together, the pressure wave and the accompanying winds will do in quite a few, and damage most of the rest of the people (and animals, and structures) in a huge circle -- perhaps hundreds of square miles in area.


A 1 megaton nuclear bomb creates a firestorm that can cover 100 square miles. A 20 megaton blast's firestorm can cover nearly 2500 square miles. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were small cities, and by today's standards the bombs dropped on them were small bombs.


A significant percentage, probably most, of the people who die from a nuclear attack will die much later, from the widespread release of radioactive material into the environment. These deaths will occur all over the world, for centuries to come. Scattered deaths, and pockets of higher mortality rates, will continue from cancer, leukemia, and other health effects, especially genetic damage to succeeding generations.


Some deaths will occur hundreds and even thousands of miles away, because low levels of ionizing radiation are capable of causing the full spectrum of health effects, albeit at a lower rate within the population. Not to mention the radioactive runoff from the rivers and streams that flow through the blast area and the area under the radioactive mushroom cloud's drift. It may carry its deadly cargo for thousands of miles, raining a fallout of death only on some cities, and not on others. It will land upon nations which had not been involved in any way in India's dispute with Pakistan. These nations will be mighty hurt and mighty upset.

Finally, an atmospheric blast of a nuclear "device" creates an EMP (Electro-Magnetic Pulse) which can be as large as Pakistan or even India -- perhaps even larger than India and Pakistan together. The higher the altitude of the blast, the bigger the circle of damage will be from the EMP. This is a very serious concern for those of us in the high-tech industries, such as myself.

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So, plz get mature...it wouldnt be like that that ur watching a nuke bomb as a cracker in Air :D :rofl: :rofl:

The above info is of Nuke techno of last decade, now the techno is improved and more advanced and can create extreme desaster that any one knows or can think.

One thing more Pak have MIRV missels which cant be handled with defense systems like PAD and AAD etc.

PAK MIRV missels


Pak Nuke capability till 2005
 
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If war brakes between India and Pak...I feel that some one surely use nukes.....may be Pak or may be india.....who ever is losing will surely use them.

And there are no limited war concepts ...if war brakes it wouldn't be limited thats the discussion going in Pak media these days. :cheers:

Nukes will be used when the conventional forces start to lose or when the key interests of anyone side are being lost. Limited war is an concept where war happens briefly and in a small scale. No side loses really. Remember Kargil, that is close to limited war. In kargil, neither india nor pakistan lost.
 
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Most people in India and in Pakistan (and in the U.S.) probably do not know that as many as 9 out of 10 people -- or more -- who die from a nuclear blast, do not die in the explosion itself. Most people probably think that if they die from a nuclear blast, they will simply see a flash and get quickly cooked.

Those within approximately a six square mile area (for a 1 megaton blast) will indeed be close enough to "ground zero" to be killed by the gamma rays emitting from the blast itself. Ghostly shadows of these people will be formed on any concrete or stone that lies behind them, and they will be no more. They literally won't know what hit them, since they will be vaporized before the electrical signals from their sense organs can reach their brains.

Outside the circle where people will be instantly vaporized from the initial gamma radiation blast, the light from the explosion (which is many times hotter than the sun) is so bright that it will immediately and permanently blind every living thing, including farm animals (including cows, sacred or otherwise), pets, birds while in flight and not to mention peasants, Maharajah's, and Government officials -- and soldiers, of course. Whether their eyes are opened or closed.

This will happen for perhaps 10 miles around in every direction (for a 1 megaton bomb) -- further for those who happen to be looking towards the blast at the moment of detonation. Even from fifty miles away, a 1 megaton blast will be many times brighter than the noonday sun. Those looking directly at the blast will have a large spot permanently burned into their retinas, where the light receptor cells will have been destroyed. The huge bright cloud being nearly instantly formed in front of them (made in part from those closer to the blast, who have already "become death"), will be the last clear image these people will see.

Most people who will die from the nuclear explosion will not die in the initial gamma ray burst, nor in the multi-spectral heat blast (mostly X-ray and ultraviolet wavelengths) which will come about a tenth of a second after the gamma burst. Nor will the pressure wave which follows over the next few seconds do most of them in, though it will cause bleeding from every orifice. Nor even will most people be killed by the momentary high winds which accompany the pressure wave. These winds will reach velocities of hundreds of miles an hour near the epicenter of the blast, and will reach velocities of 70 miles per hour as far as 6 miles from the blast (for a 1 megaton bomb). The high winds and flying debris will cause shrapnel-type wounds and blunt-trauma injuries.


Together, the pressure wave and the accompanying winds will do in quite a few, and damage most of the rest of the people (and animals, and structures) in a huge circle -- perhaps hundreds of square miles in area.


A 1 megaton nuclear bomb creates a firestorm that can cover 100 square miles. A 20 megaton blast's firestorm can cover nearly 2500 square miles. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were small cities, and by today's standards the bombs dropped on them were small bombs.


A significant percentage, probably most, of the people who die from a nuclear attack will die much later, from the widespread release of radioactive material into the environment. These deaths will occur all over the world, for centuries to come. Scattered deaths, and pockets of higher mortality rates, will continue from cancer, leukemia, and other health effects, especially genetic damage to succeeding generations.


Some deaths will occur hundreds and even thousands of miles away, because low levels of ionizing radiation are capable of causing the full spectrum of health effects, albeit at a lower rate within the population. Not to mention the radioactive runoff from the rivers and streams that flow through the blast area and the area under the radioactive mushroom cloud's drift. It may carry its deadly cargo for thousands of miles, raining a fallout of death only on some cities, and not on others. It will land upon nations which had not been involved in any way in India's dispute with Pakistan. These nations will be mighty hurt and mighty upset.

Finally, an atmospheric blast of a nuclear "device" creates an EMP (Electro-Magnetic Pulse) which can be as large as Pakistan or even India -- perhaps even larger than India and Pakistan together. The higher the altitude of the blast, the bigger the circle of damage will be from the EMP. This is a very serious concern for those of us in the high-tech industries, such as myself.

very informative

thanx

but for this to happen the nuclear warhead needs to go off.

when the missiles are shot out of the air, the warheads do not detonate. the warhead is inactive for most of the journey to ensure that if the missile falls in friendly territory , no unnecessary death occur.

so if indian missile defences shoot down the incoming nuke missiles, the worst to worry is a little nuclear contamination in a 500m area around where the warhead fell.
 
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IF.....
Assume..in the short duration conventional WAR..India getting an Upper hand and Pakistan decides to assemble the A-bombs with the fuse, war head and delivery mech's in place waiting for the strike.....
INDIA gets hold of the co ordinates all the Nuclear missile sites in Pakistan by satellites..and start high precision bombing with the help of satellites....

You thought that by yourself just by sitting in Thrissur, Kerala ???

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
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IF.....
Assume..in the short duration conventional WAR..India getting an Upper hand and Pakistan decides to assemble the A-bombs with the fuse, war head and delivery mech's in place waiting for the strike.....
INDIA gets hold of the co ordinates all the Nuclear missile sites in Pakistan by satellites..and start high precision bombing with the help of satellites....

make it a malyalim film on it i am 100% clear you got kerala oscar:rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
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all they think is just to make the subcontinent into a pure bloody mess without thinking out another way or solution out, vengeance for vengeance, sad.....
 
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I cannot get over the fact that many people on this forum are just tooo naive. Neither Pakistan, nor India have the bottle to go to a nuclear war, neither. Not even any other nuclear power let alone just India or Pakistan.

All nuclear powered weapon countries know the results of going to a nuclear conflict and that either way, neither country would survive.

I am not sure if the Indian side know the stakes and when you hear them mention how they would nuke Pakistan if nuclear war broke out and how it would take only three Indian bombs to finish the job.....and how they would ultimately win a nuclear conflict. They fail to realise that although it would take 5 Pakistani nukes to end India's existance, if for arguments sake, say Pakistan has 100 nukes by the end of 2010, does anyone really think they would just fire 5.......no..... Its the full monty....all 100.

However, I am going off on a tangent.....point is, neither will go or can afford to go to a nuclear conflict.

Some GOOD politicians, not the corrupt crappy ones we have now need to step up and say this openly and sort something out....it is getting rather boring hearing this "NUKE THEM" crap
 
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war would be waste of time and effort would just cause US to sell more weapons to both countries and fuel its own economy nothing more time to wake up :coffee:


If pakistan had awacs capable of tracking water based ships perhaps mumbai could have been averted but its silly to imagine bother gov derailed the peace process and stupid talibans destroyed the peace effort quite sad when you think about it
 
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One thing more Pak have MIRV missels which cant be handled with defense systems like PAD and AAD etc.

Pakistan doesn't have MIRV's, and the AAD and PAD will be ready for induction in 2 or 3 years, in the meantime they're looking into Israeli(Arrow) and American systems(PAC-3). Not that I think we should nuke each other or anything, just giving you a lil update.
 
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Nukes will be used when the conventional forces start to lose or when the key interests of anyone side are being lost. Limited war is an concept where war happens briefly and in a small scale. No side loses really. Remember Kargil, that is close to limited war. In kargil, neither india nor pakistan lost.

Yes kargil was a limited war, but even limited war broke down, then who will control it or keep it limited.

In Kargil International community interferd, especially Bill Clinton asked Pakistan to retrieve back and he asked india to let Pak troops go back.

This time, if war brakes who will control it to limited? I guess it will expand.
 
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