Al Qaeda behind Taliban to target Pakistan: NYT

[MARCOS]

WASHINGTON: Foreign operatives of al Qaeda are seizing on the Taliban turmoil to sow chaos in Pakistan, the New York Times reported Monday.

Bruce O Riedel an Obama said it is unlikely that Taliban capture in Pakistan given the strength of Pakistan's military.

The operatives which had earlier focussed on plotting attacks against the West are now seeking to strengthen the hand of the militant Islamist groups in Pakistan, said the influential US daily citing American and Pakistani intelligence officials.

One indication came April 19, when a truck parked inside an al Qaeda compound in South Waziristan, in Pakistan's tribal areas, erupted in a fireball when it was struck by a CIA missile, it said.

The paper cited American intelligence officials as saying that the truck had been loaded with high explosives, apparently to be used as a bomb, and that while its ultimate target remains unclear, the bomb would have been more devastating than the suicide bombing that killed more than 50 people at the Marriott Hotel in Islamabad last September.

Al Qaeda's leaders - a predominantly Arab group of Egyptians, Saudis and Yemenis, as well as other nationalities like Uzbeks - for years have nurtured ties to Pakistani militant groups like the Taliban operating in the mountains of Pakistan.

"They smell blood, and they are intoxicated by the idea of a jihadist takeover in Pakistan," Bruce O Riedel, a former analyst for the CIA who recently led the Obama administration's policy review of Pakistan and Afghanistan, was quoted as saying.

It remains unlikely that Islamic militants could seize power in Pakistan, given the strength of Pakistan's military, according to American intelligence analysts cited by the paper.

But the daily said a senior American intelligence official expressed concern that recent successes by the Taliban in extending territorial gains could foreshadow the creation of "mini-Afghanistans" around Pakistan that would allow militants even more freedom to plot attacks.

Al Qaeda behind Taliban to target Pakistan: NYT,5/13/2009 1:49:03 AM

 

[waraich66]

Agreed,
Al Qaeda created mini Afghanistan (SWAT) to close supply line of NATO forces.Alqaeada can expand this war by opening a new front in kashmir in india.Increase in area of WAR is in favour of Alqaeda/Talaban.

 

[ajpirzada]

so this reports want to scare us pakistanis or is it only directed towards audience based in US????
not everyone buys there BS

 

[jeypore]

so this reports want to scare us pakistanis or is it only directed towards audience based in US????
not everyone buys there BS

That is already been done, remember. That is why they are dictating peace deal or not to GoP.

 

[S-2]

"so this reports want to scare us pakistanis or is it only directed towards audience based in US????
not everyone buys there BS"

You should or you haven't been paying much attention to Al Qaeda's message of a global caliphate or it's desperate practical need for a secure host.

Think about it- who are they? Saudis, Chechyans, Libyans, Egyptians, Uzbeks, muslim euros from Bosnia to Britain-all stateless and most wanted in their home countries. Everywhere they've thought a chance to grab a foothold- from Afghanistan,Sudan, back to Afghanistan, an abortion in Mesopotamia, and now the Islamic Emirate of Waziristan, these boys have been lookin' for a home but booted out.

They aren't pinning their hopes on Omar nor should they. There's an opportunity to exploit in Pakistan and little cause yet to feel threatened in their heart-the deep hills of Waziristan, N.A., Korrum, Khyber, Orakzai, and down Quetta way.

Until THOSE areas are threatened and until the GoP shows the resilience necessary to begin fighting much less carry it through to Quetta and the Waziristans, why shouldn't they support Mehsud, Faizullah, et al.

They need a home and a global caliphate writes a large mandate as to where that can be. Any port in a storm. Right now they think that's Pakistan.

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

Scary..................... very soon there will be massive death/destruction in major cities as a payback.
They are going to pull a "midianite" if you ask me.
Based on teh footage, they are on the run big time though.
heavy artilery has wiped out the hideouts on the mountains
and such!
This raises a good question: WTF ( not the member here) was Busharraf doing all these years? He just bought a 1/2 Mil ( UK pounds, that is) Flat in London paid for by the people of Pakistan. maybe if Uncle Sam let GOP prosecute him!

 

[muse]

AQ behind Talib? Really? Duh!

Now there is a new commander in Afghanistan - with an interesting resume - Mullah Omar Zawahiri and Osamy if he's alive - people say there is a short journey in your near future -- But if such credentials are to be taken seriously, perhaps a demonstration, lets say, oh, let me think think, OK how about this Baitullah fellow?

It may win friends and allow influence.

 

[S-2]

"Now there is a new commander in Afghanistan - with an interesting resume - Mullah Omar Zawahiri and Osamy if he's alive - people say there is a short journey in your near future..."

CAS is an issue that McChrystal will be expected to improve. So too integrating the ANA. Gates is looking for a commander that can squeeze the operational optimum on what's available NOW- and he wants fast results. McChrystal will be expected to hit the ground running, I believe.

That'll be tough given the political requirements that come with the job but this will be a hot summer and fall and Gates wants a kinetic guy with long light infantry operational experience behind the wheel.
I believe, btw, Gates and Obama will part ways the next time an increase for troops is called for from the White House.

I'm not sure A.Q. is in the cards. So long as they stay on the Pakistani side, McChrystal's forte shall remain muzzled. Unless he's got a dead solid, perfectly stone-cold accurate read, our guys are not crossing that border.

 

[Rank]

WASHINGTON: Foreign operatives of al Qaeda are seizing on the Taliban turmoil to sow chaos in Pakistan, the New York Times reported Monday.

Bruce O Riedel an Obama said it is unlikely that Taliban capture in Pakistan given the strength of Pakistan's military.

The operatives which had earlier focussed on plotting attacks against the West are now seeking to strengthen the hand of the militant Islamist groups in Pakistan, said the influential US daily citing American and Pakistani intelligence officials.

One indication came April 19, when a truck parked inside an al Qaeda compound in South Waziristan, in Pakistan's tribal areas, erupted in a fireball when it was struck by a CIA missile, it said.

The paper cited American intelligence officials as saying that the truck had been loaded with high explosives, apparently to be used as a bomb, and that while its ultimate target remains unclear, the bomb would have been more devastating than the suicide bombing that killed more than 50 people at the Marriott Hotel in Islamabad last September.

Al Qaeda's leaders - a predominantly Arab group of Egyptians, Saudis and Yemenis, as well as other nationalities like Uzbeks - for years have nurtured ties to Pakistani militant groups like the Taliban operating in the mountains of Pakistan.

"They smell blood, and they are intoxicated by the idea of a jihadist takeover in Pakistan," Bruce O Riedel, a former analyst for the CIA who recently led the Obama administration's policy review of Pakistan and Afghanistan, was quoted as saying.

It remains unlikely that Islamic militants could seize power in Pakistan, given the strength of Pakistan's military, according to American intelligence analysts cited by the paper.

But the daily said a senior American intelligence official expressed concern that recent successes by the Taliban in extending territorial gains could foreshadow the creation of "mini-Afghanistans" around Pakistan that would allow militants even more freedom to plot attacks.

Al Qaeda behind Taliban to target Pakistan: NYT,5/13/2009 1:49:03 AM

We very well know from where serious threat

2nd we also very well know what is alQaueda and Cindrella type character Usama bin ladin..

most SUPER DUPER technology VS Alqaueda still not elimnte Usama bin ladin and wat a exclusive thing after every few days Statment came from Usama that we will try to attack bla blaa location soon by the way i love 1 thing btw this alqueda and forign media .. Usama bin laden and baitullah masud after every attack call (Forgien media) and told that i have done this job WOW wat a good relation man!

THESE ALL ARE BULLSHIT THAT (taliban inside Pakistan and Alqueda BS)

True fact is WAT EVERYONE KNOWZ but dun have GUTZ to CALL THAT CIA MUSAD RAW behind these (ELEMENTS) NOT TALIBANZZ!

 

[Bill Longley]

hmmm
i some time wonder is alqaida american enemy or ally

to be frank when US occupied IRAQ.... Iraqies started war against imperials.then one day Abo Masab zarqawi droped in Iraq and suddenly there started a civil war between shia and sunni ...hence takeing away pressure from US forces.

In Pakistan Al qaida droped in and we had suside bombings and other insidents where as Al qaidas so Called ally Mullah Omar Forbade Taliban to attack pakistan but still Alqaida and their friends disobeyed....
hmmm may be both Alqaida and US have same objectives

 

[ajpirzada]

"so this reports want to scare us pakistanis or is it only directed towards audience based in US????
not everyone buys there BS"

You should or you haven't been paying much attention to Al Qaeda's message of a global caliphate or it's desperate practical need for a secure host.

Think about it- who are they? Saudis, Chechyans, Libyans, Egyptians, Uzbeks, muslim euros from Bosnia to Britain-all stateless and most wanted in their home countries. Everywhere they've thought a chance to grab a foothold- from Afghanistan,Sudan, back to Afghanistan, an abortion in Mesopotamia, and now the Islamic Emirate of Waziristan, these boys have been lookin' for a home but booted out.

They aren't pinning their hopes on Omar nor should they. There's an opportunity to exploit in Pakistan and little cause yet to feel threatened in their heart-the deep hills of Waziristan, N.A., Korrum, Khyber, Orakzai, and down Quetta way.

Until THOSE areas are threatened and until the GoP shows the resilience necessary to begin fighting much less carry it through to Quetta and the Waziristans, why shouldn't they support Mehsud, Faizullah, et al.

They need a home and a global caliphate writes a large mandate as to where that can be. Any port in a storm. Right now they think that's Pakistan.

so these splinter groups when combined together is called Al Qaeda???
i dont quite agree. these many small groups have got their own ideology. they support each other to achieve their independent aims and not to achieve any one common objective of global caliphate.
its only a theory carved by americans to provide them a reason of stayin in afghanistan.
another question which arises is what made all these groups come to afghanistan?? u know the anwer dont u. take away that reason and they will die while fighting each other inorder to achieve their independent goals. situation will only worsen if u guys stay in afghanistan. ur presense in afghanistan is forcing them to come under one banner with one central command and that is definately dangerous. mark my words today and then think again after few years. you will definately leave afghanistan one day but i fear it will be too late for pakistan by then

 

[forcetrip]

hmmm
i some time wonder is alqaida american enemy or ally

to be frank when US occupied IRAQ.... Iraqies started war against imperials.then one day Abo Masab zarqawi droped in Iraq and suddenly there started a civil war between shia and sunni ...hence takeing away pressure from US forces.

In Pakistan Al qaida droped in and we had suside bombings and other insidents where as Al qaidas so Called ally Mullah Omar Forbade Taliban to attack pakistan but still Alqaida and their friends disobeyed....
hmmm may be both Alqaida and US have same objectives

^^This is what happened .. If people start understanding how the agencies work .. they will have no problem seeing the puppet masters .. They have to do their jobs just like the rest of us .. Taking the presurre off their troops should be any agencies number 1 priority ..

 

[muse]

Zawahiri, Osamy but most of all, the outrageously named, Baitullah are now scrambling for cover.

Threats have been issued to Pakistani civil servants and their families - I'll bet a Dollar to your dime, that the family of Talib commanders and their political enablers will be in the same boat as those of civil servants.


We will hear the usual BS about how Talib and AlQiada are really agents of America - fair enough, but either they way, they will be dispatched to hell, so please don't waste your breath and our precious time, telling us again that we are wrong and that Talib and American have the same agenda because even if it is true, dead talib is no one's servant, not even the devil's.

 

[RescueRanger]

Dawn Interactive

An interesting paradox.

 

[S-2]

"We will hear the usual BS about how Talib and AlQiada are really agents of America - fair enough, but either they way, they will be dispatched to hell, so please don't waste your breath and our precious time, telling us again that we are wrong and that Talib and American have the same agenda because even if it is true, dead talib is no one's servant, not even the devil's."

No. It's not "fair enough". The fact is the taliban and A.Q. have squatted on your lands by permission as best the rest of the world can tell since late 2001. They ain't living in Beverly Hills.

Who's agents are they? Strategic depth, remember?

You shouldn't be caught engaging in such mindless dissemblance. It's the nat'l equivalent to feeding the trolls.