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By observing this I couldn't see the improvement. Can u please elaborate.
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By observing this I couldn't see the improvement. Can u please elaborate.
I’ve confirmed with HIT officials multiple times. Al-Khalid and Al-Khalid-1 have entirely identical armor.
Inserts have been optimized. Hint, type-85 composite inserts are similar.I’ve confirmed with HIT officials multiple times. Al-Khalid and Al-Khalid-1 have entirely identical armor.
Is there something in the picture that backs your statement up?
Again. HIT has confirmed the armor is identical on Original AK and AK-1. I’d love to see or hear your sources.Inserts have been optimized. Hint, type-85 composite inserts are similar.
Again. HIT has confirmed the armor is identical on Original AK and AK-1. I’d love to see or hear your sources.
Identical doesn't mean the same does it?
Maybe I should be asking for your dictionary before I ask for a sourceIdentical doesn't mean the same does it?
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UG got the some of the composite Package From AK, and that too not all of them from what it seems.
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What kind of APFSDS was that? 125-I, I guess? And what distance was simulated? 2 000 m as usual?UG got the some of the composite Package From AK, and that too not all of them from what it seems.
I was surprised too, but they were adamant that they had not changed the armor at all, partially due to weight constraints.
I’ve seen composite armor packages from AK-1 in all it’s individual pieces, it looked just the same as AK. I don’t think it needs an upgrade though, in live armor testing the AKs turret without ERA could stop its own HEAT followed by its own APFSDS handily, which is impressive given how much the HEAT disturbs the chemical composition of the armor, and india doesn’t have ammo comparable to what the AK fires.
Active Protection Systems (APS) vary in terms of capabilities.Top attack ATGMs can be countered by systems like Trophy ,Zalson,AVEPS,Quick kill 2.0,Afghanit can also provide top attack protection against IR guided missiles like javelin and there are afew other APS which also provide protection against top attack and like it's always the case with almost every system they can be countered systems like RPG-30 are designed to counter APS ,Kornets can also be launched in tandem to counter APS systems although the accuracy maybe lower
DU armor is pointless, for now. I mean, Uranium Matrixes is just one of many ways to get better KE/CE protection, you don't need it to make better armor packages)
Technology is only as useful as the owner is skilled. You could exchange the entirety of the equipment of the Russian and American forces while keeping everything else the same and Russia would still be losing just as bad in Ukraine. Because they don’t know what they’re doing.Active Protection Systems (APS) vary in terms of capabilities.
Trophy APS intercepts for reference:
These intercepts were produced in 2011.
Trophy APS was pitted against Kornet in 2014 and defeated it just like any other:
Other solutions are more hype and less substance in comparison.
For example:
Russia Just Lost Its Most Advanced Operational Tank In Ukraine
The first confirmed loss of Russia's most advanced operational tank is another blow to the Russian Army's eroded image.www.thedrive.com
Russian T-90M is equipped with the very best of Russian technologies including Afghanit APS* and armor protection package, but it was knocked out by an ATGM in a battle. Ukrainian forces use Stugna-P and Javelin ATGMs.
*This is true; Ukranian forces managed to capture another Russian T-90M unit in another battle and found it to be equipped with Afghanit APS.
Trophy APS offers 360 degree protection but Afghanit does not.
Depleted Uranium (DU) is about twice as dense and hard than lead and even moreso than steel in its properties. Incoming projectile(s) loose much of its energy while trying to punch through a mesh created with DU. It is not pointless but Russians wouldn't understand.
I asked if that test was conducted with Naiza DU or 125-1, they said both, I did not ask about the distance, but I would assume either 1 or 2 KM. The trials were done with both APFSDS being fired first followed by HEAT and then the other way around.What kind of APFSDS was that? 125-I, I guess? And what distance was simulated? 2 000 m as usual?
Technology is only as useful as the owner is skilled. You could exchange the entirety of the equipment of the Russian and American forces while keeping everything else the same and Russia would still be losing just as bad in Ukraine. Because they don’t know what they’re doing.
What I mean to say is, I don’t think inferior tech is what’s holding the Russians back, we all know they can make good things, but their training, logistics, strategy and morale is so hilariously poor that it does not matter.
I would wager that the US army with Russian equipment would fare far better simply because of their better training and planning.
And then again, what good was American technology in Vietnam and both Russian and American in Afghanistan?