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Southeast Asia's top budget carrier eyes region’s fastest growing air market

DECEMBER 06, 2018 16:09 JST
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AirAsia planes sit on the tarmac at Kuala Lumpur International Airport, Malaysia. © Reuters

HO CHI MINH CITY - AirAsia , the largest low-cost carrier in Southeast Asia, said on Thursday that it has agreed with its partner in Vietnam to launch a domestic airline next year, to gain a footprint in the fastest growing air travel market in the region.

The Malaysia-based carrier and Thien Minh Group, a Hanoi-based tourism business, agreed on Thursday to invest in aircraft to form a fleet for the new airline. TMG CEO Tran Trong Kien said that the fleet will mainly consist of Airbus A320s and A321s, both short- to medium-range, narrow-body aircraft.

"We expect to enhance our contribution to Vietnam's aviation and increase locals in one of the most promising markets in the region," AirAsia CEO Tony Fernandes said before signing agreement on Thursday in Hanoi.


The move comes as Vietnamese take to the skies in greater numbers and tourism booms in the Southeast Asian nation. AirAsia aims to counter Vietjet Aviation, the Vietnamese budget airline that is rising on strong passenger growth at home.

Kien said, "We aspire to reap the huge potential of the fast-growing air travel business via the partnership" with AirAsia.

TMG offers high-end tourism using its seaplanes connecting Hanoi and Ha Long Bay, as well as cruises traveling the Mekong Delta. The private company operates a chain of hotels and resorts in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia that host more than 200,000 guests annually, with plans to add two facilities each year.

Official statistics show 79.28 million air passengers for the first nine months of 2018, up 12% on the year.

AirAsia owns 30% of the new venture, the maximum allowed for foreign ownership of an airline under Vietnamese law, though Hanoi is considering lifting the limit to 49%.

AirAsia expects the venture to focus on underserved routes connecting key cities including Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City, while also flying to Southeast Asia, China, South Korea and Japan from Ho Chi Minh City, Hanoi and Danang.

Vietnam's aviation market has averaged 17.4% growth over the past decade, far higher than the 7.9% rate for the Asia-Pacific region, the International Air Transport Association said. AirAsia has been seeking a local partner for more than 10 years. The Malaysian airline once agreed to team with now-rival Vietjet, but the deal collapsed in 2010 without a maiden flight.

But analysts see possible headwinds for AirAsia's entry into Vietnam. Vietjet holds roughly half the market, and the country's first private airline stands better placed to deal with local authorities.

Yet the low number of flights per capita compared with other countries leaves room for more players, said Le Dang Doanh, director of the Central Institute for Economic Management in Vietnam.

New players could operate well at destinations beyond main routes connecting big cities. Bamboo Airways, a local airline owned by golf resort operator FLC Group, received its license and has scheduled its first flight for the last week of December. Another local airline also awaits approval.

AirAsia's shares declined on Thursday by 1.29% to 3.07 Malaysian ringgit while Vietjet increased 0.7% to 132,300 dong in the morning session.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/AirAsia-to-launch-airline-in-Vietnam-with-local-partner
 
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This is not a good development for the regional aviation market.
AirAsia already has too many subsidiaries in all the adjoining countries, targeting the same markets and same routes from different 'flags'. This would only result in internal pricing wars, revenue management efficiencies and eventually leading to closures and buy outs without actually stimulating any new market or disruptive business model.

Vietnam would be better off starting its own airline or even doubling investments into VietJet to expand into non-traditional markets.
 
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This is not a good development for the regional aviation market.
AirAsia already has too many subsidiaries in all the adjoining countries, targeting the same markets and same routes from different 'flags'. This would only result in internal pricing wars, revenue management efficiencies and eventually leading to closures and buy outs without actually stimulating any new market or disruptive business model.

Vietnam would be better off starting its own airline or even doubling investments into VietJet to expand into non-traditional markets.
Not a problem. Vietnam actually needs more airliners. there is a huge demand for tourism & business. VN needs more connections to the world. as for domestic airliners, there is a new comer: Bamboo. it just signs contracts to buy 20 Boeings und 24 Airbus for US$8.6 billion. that is significant.
Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/new...line-bamboo-airways-aviation-licence-10925554

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Not a problem. Vietnam actually needs more airliners. there is a huge demand for tourism & business. VN needs more connections to the world. as for domestic airliners, there is a new comer: Bamboo. it just signs contracts to buy 20 Boeings und 24 Airbus for US$8.6 billion. that is significant.
Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/new...line-bamboo-airways-aviation-licence-10925554

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Another carrier?

Where are you planning to deploy it?

The narrow-body market is already reaching its saturation point in Southeast Asia. Also, you are a destination market rather than a transit hub or an origin based outbound market.

Vietnam would be good if they don't get tempted by the developments in Thailand, Singapore, Indonesia and Malaysia as they are already mature markets and excessive competition there would mean that airlines's finances will bleed red in the next 2-3 years.

Trust me, we have gone through mess like this 6 years back in India. It is ugly.

Your airlines need to focus on the 5+ hours market more now; use A350s/787s for long-haul low cost markets from Europe, Middle East, Russia, and even India and northern China to increase your low cost revenues and hybridize the market.
 
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Another carrier?

Where are you planning to deploy it?

The narrow-body market is already reaching its saturation point in Southeast Asia. Also, you are a destination market rather than a transit hub or an origin based outbound market.

Vietnam would be good if they don't get tempted by the developments in Thailand, Singapore, Indonesia and Malaysia as they are already mature markets and excessive competition there would mean that airlines's finances will bleed red in the next 2-3 years.

Trust me, we have gone through mess like this 6 years back in India. It is ugly.

Your airlines need to focus on the 5+ hours market more now; use A350s/787s for long-haul low cost markets from Europe, Middle East, Russia, and even India and northern China to increase your low cost revenues and hybridize the market.
Vietnam aviation market is faaaaaar from saturation. We have a population nearing 100 million people with 1 million added every year, with everyone wanting to fly. Only Indonesia and Philippines have more people but they are less developed than Vietnam.

Where to fly? Well besides popular destinations in Asia and Europe, soon to Israel and America.
 
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Vietnam aviation market is faaaaaar from saturation. We have a population nearing 100 million people with 1 million added every year, with everyone wanting to fly. Only Indonesia and Philippines have more people but they are less developed than Vietnam.

Where to fly? Well besides popular destinations in Asia and Europe, soon to Israel and America.

Lol less developed than Vietnam in your dream only
 
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Lol less developed than Vietnam in your dream only
Foxconn negotiates with Vietnam, not with Indonesia and Philippines, right now for iphone plants because Vietnam has better logistics, infrastructure, workforce and everything aka more developed. That is a fact.
 
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Foxconn negotiates with Vietnam, not with Indonesia and Philippines, right now for iphone plants because Vietnam has better logistics, infrastructure, workforce and everything aka more developed. That is a fact.

Come on, you joker while you are still in nego with Foxconn , another Taiwan tech I phone maker had shifted their production to Indonesia

https://m.theepochtimes.com/taiwane...riffs-threaten-chinese-factories_2732240.html

There is lie differences between bigmouth and hardworking people. And infrastructure wise, workforce quality Indonesia is much better in the ranking compared to Vietnam

https://www.statista.com/statistics...g-to-the-general-quality-of-infrastructure/#0
 
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Foxconn negotiates with Vietnam, not with Indonesia and Philippines, right now for iphone plants because Vietnam has better logistics, infrastructure, workforce and everything aka more developed. That is a fact.

I think it is due to easiness to acquire land and cheaper labor cost in Vietnam. As a democratic state, acquiring land is more difficult in Indonesia than Vietnamese which is under an authoritarian regime. Our refinery project for instant hasnt yet started due to difficulty to acquire land despite it becomes our government priority and executed by our state owned enterprises.

But I think overall Indonesia is still able to get more FDI than Vietnam. Despite so I have to agree that Indonesia need to improve its infrastructure more, thats why Jokowi administration focuses on infrastructure so much.

Talking which one is more developed, I think it is very clear, Indonesia has become a trillion dollar economy with services become the largest part of its GDP. Indonesia manufacturing output also has become top ten of the world.
 
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Vietnam aviation market is faaaaaar from saturation. We have a population nearing 100 million people with 1 million added every year, with everyone wanting to fly. Only Indonesia and Philippines have more people but they are less developed than Vietnam.

Where to fly? Well besides popular destinations in Asia and Europe, soon to Israel and America.

Currently, Indonesia domestic market size is the fifth biggest in the world after US, China, India, and Japan. This year Indonesia is set to overtake Japan.
https://centreforaviation.com/analy...arket-rapid-growth-rivalry-intensifies-410650

On the other hands, by market projections, here is the top 5 airline market according to IATA. Where is Vietnam in that list?

China (921 million new passengers for a total of 1.5 billion)
US (401 million new passengers for a total of 1.1 billion)
India (337 million new passengers for a total of 478 million)
Indonesia (235 million new passengers for a total of 355 million)
Turkey (119 million new passengers for a total of 196 million)

Top two of the largest 10 airlines in SEA are Indonesian. Lion Group of Indonesia has nearly 300 airplanes, the largest Viet airline only has a third of that. https://seasia.co/2018/04/19/10-largest-airlines-in-southeast-asia-by-fleet-number

No Vietnamese airline has 5 stars rating. Meanwhile, Thai Airways, Garuda Indonesia, and Singapore Airlines are among the best airlines in the world. https://www.businessinsider.de/ranked-best-airlines-in-asia-skytrax-2017-12?r=US&IR=T#/#12-asiana-1
 
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Currently, Indonesia domestic market size is the fifth biggest in the world after US, China, India, and Japan. This year Indonesia is set to overtake Japan.
https://centreforaviation.com/analy...arket-rapid-growth-rivalry-intensifies-410650

On the other hands, by market projections, here is the top 5 airline market according to IATA. Where is Vietnam in that list?

China (921 million new passengers for a total of 1.5 billion)
US (401 million new passengers for a total of 1.1 billion)
India (337 million new passengers for a total of 478 million)
Indonesia (235 million new passengers for a total of 355 million)
Turkey (119 million new passengers for a total of 196 million)

Top two of the largest 10 airlines in SEA are Indonesian. Lion Group of Indonesia has nearly 300 airplanes, the largest Viet airline only has a third of that. https://seasia.co/2018/04/19/10-largest-airlines-in-southeast-asia-by-fleet-number

No Vietnamese airline has 5 stars rating. Meanwhile, Thai Airways, Garuda Indonesia, and Singapore Airlines are among the best airlines in the world. https://www.businessinsider.de/ranked-best-airlines-in-asia-skytrax-2017-12?r=US&IR=T#/#12-asiana-1
What you see is just a snapshot of time,that means little.
Ok Lion has 300 planes, but Vietnam airliners less now but they all rush acquiring more anymore aircraft. Vietjet alone will have 242.


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What you see is just a snapshot of time,that means little.
Ok Lion has 300 planes, but Vietnam airliners less now but they all rush acquiring more anymore aircraft. Vietjet alone will have 242.


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Well, say hello to Lion Air 443 airplanes already on order, so even if Vietjet fleet grows to 242, Vietjet will still only own a third of Lion Air's fleet size. Nothing really changes eh? Lol.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/...more-planes-than-anyone-other-airline-boeing/
 
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I think it is due to easiness to acquire land and cheaper labor cost in Vietnam. As a democratic state, acquiring land is more difficult in Indonesia than Vietnamese which is under an authoritarian regime. Our refinery project for instant hasnt yet started due to difficulty to acquire land despite it becomes our government priority and executed by our state owned enterprises.

But I think overall Indonesia is still able to get more FDI than Vietnam. Despite so I have to agree that Indonesia need to improve its infrastructure more, thats why Jokowi administration focuses on infrastructure so much.

Talking which one is more developed, I think it is very clear, Indonesia has become a trillion dollar economy with services become the largest part of its GDP. Indonesia manufacturing output also has become top ten of the world.
If you think acquiring land in Vietnam is easy you are wrong. I don’t think it’s not democracy or communism that decides the fate of a nation. Look Germany, a rich and democratic country. There are lots of democracies that remain poor forever. Why?
Coming back to Foxconn. The company wants to reduce cost, by 20 billion yuan, in China.How to achieve it? It can either cut the workforce by 10 percent or move production to cheaper country. Or both. But to where? I think Vietnam has the lead because the Vietnamese are faster, doing business in Vietnam is easier.

http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/un...enbar-massive-einsparungen-a-1239659-amp.html
 
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