Ahmadinejad wins election

[Cheetah786]

That is funny Arabs feels the same way as Obama does!!!

Arabs feel bad if any Muslim country moves in the right direction.

 

[Durran3]

Raw Footage of Protectors being beaten

 

[Durran3]

His election is nothing but a "coup d'état"... I find it hard to believe when more than 50% of Iran's voter are all young people and didn't want MA to win yet he wins by a landslide.. there is something clearly fishy here.. I am talking to some Iranian friends of mine right now.. infact one is sitting right next to me and he says these are clearly rigged elections.. now obviously i am not going to base my judgment on a word of mouth but clearly there needs to be some form of investigation done

 

[TopCat]

His election is nothing but a "coup d'état"... I find it hard to believe when more than 50% of Iran's voter are all young people and didn't want MA to win yet he wins by a landslide.. there is something clearly fishy here.. I am talking to some Iranian friends of mine right now.. infact one is sitting right next to me and he says these are clearly rigged elections.. now obviously i am not going to base my judgment on a word of mouth but clearly there needs to be some form of investigation done

Ohh no!! he got some real hard core supporter specially in rural Iran. If you go outside Tehran, its totally different picture. I been there and I know... Did you see his pre election rallies?

 

[Al-zakir]

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Raw Footage of Protectors being beaten

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These are few liberal and pro west students making some useless noise. Amhadeinejad won the election with out a doubt. These liberals won't do any damage to his credibility.

 

[Durran3]

These are few liberal and pro west students making some useless noise. Amhadeinejad won the election with out a doubt. These liberals won't do any damage to his credibility.

Why is anyone that is liberal termed as a bad thing and 'Pro-West'? I completely fail to see that logic what does west have anything to do with a person being liberal in his/her country.

Since when did ideas like Individual Rights, Equal opportunity, freedom of though/speech, limiting government powers, right to private property, a transparent government system become a bad thing?
Or just because you support these ideas your termed 'Pro-West' for what ever nonsense reason... Seriously think a little will you

 

[idune]

Most of these protest activities are centered around north of Tehran few in central Tehran around gov interior ministry located. Rest of Tehran and Iran as a whole accepted result as it is. North of Tehran mostly poulated by people with higher income but low in numbers mostly Mousavi supporters.

Street violence are caused by youths from these neighborhood.Look at the video and language. Instead of Farsi they are chanting in English "down with dictator" "we want freedom". Its rare Iranians speak to each other in English. These youths are instigated and bribed by outsiders only to create scene and produce propaganda materials for western powers.

 

[A1Kaid]

His election is nothing but a "coup d'état"... I find it hard to believe when more than 50% of Iran's voter are all young people and didn't want MA to win yet he wins by a landslide.. there is something clearly fishy here.. I am talking to some Iranian friends of mine right now.. infact one is sitting right next to me and he says these are clearly rigged elections.. now obviously i am not going to base my judgment on a word of mouth but clearly there needs to be some form of investigation done

Oh really?

Are you aware candidate and former Iranian PM. Mousavi and his party said they would have their representatives and party members monitoring the elections and ballot sites to prevent any type of rigging.

This is what him and his party said they would do, and obviously who can blame them. So let's see what candidate Hussein Mousavi has to say about the election results, if he concedes victory to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad then that is that.


Perhaps it's not Mousavi's time or destiny...?

 

[idune]

Why is anyone that is liberal termed as a bad thing and 'Pro-West'? I completely fail to see that logic what does west have anything to do with a person being liberal in his/her country.

Since when did ideas like Individual Rights, Equal opportunity, freedom of though/speech, limiting government powers, right to private property, a transparent government system become a bad thing?
Or just because you support these ideas your termed 'Pro-West' for what ever nonsense reason... Seriously think a little will you

Democracy and liberalism is only good for a developing country when you have ability to compete with indo-zion-western media, institutions (both military and civil) and economy. Otherwise, liberalism will only be used by indo-zion-western axis to infiltrate, exploite, and deceive people of the country. Look around the world you will see Karzai style govt are ruling in disguise of democracy - all western creation.
Real popular leaders are sidelined by overwhelming indo-zion-western power, money and propaganda.

 

[A1Kaid]

Most of these protest activities are centered around north of Tehran few in central Tehran around gov interior ministry located. Rest of Tehran and Iran as a whole accepted result as it is. North of Tehran mostly poulated by people with higher income but low in numbers mostly Mousavi supporters.

Street violence are caused by youths from these neighborhood.Look at the video and language. Instead of Farsi they are chanting in English "down with dictator" "we want freedom". Its rare Iranians speak to each other in English. These youths are instigated and bribed by outsiders only to create scene and produce propaganda materials for western powers.

Yes that is true Hussein Mousavi's hardcore supporters are concentrated in Northern Tehran, amongst the liberal and moderate types, and not to mention wealthier communities...


I wasn't aware they were chanting in "English", perhaps they are trying to reach an "international audience" by chanting in an "international language" such as English... They are trying to call attention to themselves. This relates to your statement that they are trying to create propaganda for western audiences and media and powers, quite an interesting point.

 

[A1Kaid]

Why is anyone that is liberal termed as a bad thing and 'Pro-West'? I completely fail to see that logic what does west have anything to do with a person being liberal in his/her country.

Since when did ideas like Individual Rights, Equal opportunity, freedom of though/speech, limiting government powers, right to private property, a transparent government system become a bad thing?
Or just because you support these ideas your termed 'Pro-West' for what ever nonsense reason... Seriously think a little will you

Well you raise a legitimate concern.

However, it is because people who are "liberals" living in Muslim countries tend to get their inspiration from the West, from western legal codes, TV, movies, music, fashion, and more. So the association is made that a "liberal type" has "western tendencies". For example, liberal types even the ones who may consider themselves to be "Muslims" are open to and may support "secularism" which is truly a western system though created by Ibn Rushid (Averroes). Also they may be opened to other liberties such as drinking alcohol and other things commonly grown, found, and symbolized most in the West...

Again, so the association is made.

Though it is correct that demanding human rights, freedom of speech, government transparency, is not necessarily western. Though in this specific case these Iranians in Northern Tehran are indeed liberal types but to suggest they are "pro-west" is not necessarily correct unless proven. Sure they may want to open up their society to western countries to do trade, education, business, travel, and other things that come with mutual freedom and liberty...

 

[Durran3]

However, it is because people who are "liberals" living in Muslim countries tend to get their inspiration from the West, from western legal codes, TV, movies, music, fashion, and more. So the association is made that a "liberal type" has "western tendencies". For example, liberal types even the ones who may consider themselves to be "Muslims" are open to and may support "secularism" which is truly a western system though created by Averroes. Also they may be opened to other liberties such as drinking alcohol and other things commonly grown, found, and symbolized most in the West...

Why is listening to music, watching TV, or studying things like Art a bad thing? Music and Drama have been here for hundreds of years... There are certainly good things we can take from others and others who can take from us. Surely drinking alcohol, gambling and indulging yourself in various other fantasies is not entirely a western phenomenon whether you consider them good or bad. These things have been around for Centuries and hundreds of years in all countries, empires and civilizations including the Arab countries.

As far as liberties go.. i believe the more you try to hide things from others the more they will have an urge to try it out. I do believe in regulation of course (not so much of the financial system lol)... Its about Law and Order to be quiet frank.. As long as your not harming others i don't see why any government should ever interfere in your personal/private life like forcing a woman to wear a hijab if she doesn't want to.. !!

 

[A1Kaid]

Also I suggest the "liberal types" or Hussen Mousavi supporters not to engage in the self-destruction or rioting of their country or cities. There is no need to go out and raise chaos and hell and set things aflame or fight with police.

If Ahmadinejad has won than the majority has spoken, that is an important part of "democracy" that you party or favorite candidate may not win.

" TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- As street protests and voter skepticism rose over Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's election victory, the incumbent leader hailed the vote, saying it was a "great ordeal" but one that pointed "the way to the future."

Moussavi supporters run past a burning bus in Tehran on Saturday.

"The people of Iran inspired hope for all nations and created a source of pride in the nation and disappointed all the ill wishers," Ahmadinejad said in a nationwide TV address Saturday night. "This election was held at a juncture of history."

The government said on Saturday that Ahmadinejad won Friday's presidential election with 62.63 percent of the vote and Mir Hossein Moussavi received 33.75 percent of the vote.

But while he extolled the result and the huge turnout, Moussavi and supporters in the Tehran streets are crying foul as street clashes have erupted in the aftermath of the polls.If they feel this way than their concerns should be investigated and an independent investigation ought to be conducted) Reaction emerged across the world, as countries such as the United States and Canada voiced concern over claims of voter irregularities.

The ongoing street protests have been viewed as remarkable in a country where anti-government sentiment is not looked upon kindly by those in power. In the aftermath of the vote, street protesters and riot police engaged in running battles, with stones thrown, garbage cans set on fire and people shouting "death to the dictatorship."

Source: Ahmadinejad hails election as protests grow - CNN.com





"Majority Rules Minority Rights"

 

[AirforcePilot]

U.S. rejects victory claim by Iran president


The U.S. on Saturday refused to accept hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's claim of a landslide re-election victory in Iran and said it was looking into allegation of election fraud.

"We are monitoring the situation as it unfolds in Iran, but we, like the rest of the world, are waiting and watching to see what the Iranian people decide," Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said at a news conference with Canada's foreign affairs minister, Lawrence Cannon.

Minutes after Clinton spoke, the White House released a two-sentence statement praising "the vigorous debate and enthusiasm that this election generated, particularly among young Iranians," but expressing concern about "reports of irregularities."

Neither Clinton nor the White House mentioned Ahmadinejad or his chief rival, Mir Hossein Mousavi, by name, or acknowledged the incumbent's victory declaration.

Iranian authorities reported that Ahmadinejad was re-elected with 62.6 percent of the vote. He called on the public to respect the vote. But Mousavi, a former prime minister who has become the hero of a youth-driven movement seeking greater liberties and a gentler face for Iran abroad, rejected the results and accused authorities of rigging Friday's vote.

In brief remarks in Canada, Clinton cited "the enthusiasm and the very vigorous debate and dialogue" in the run-up to the vote. "We obviously hope that the outcome reflects the genuine will and desire of the Iranian people," she said.

Canada 'deeply concerned'
Cannon said his country was "deeply concerned" by reports of irregularities in the election. "We're troubled by reports of intimidation of opposition candidates' offices by security forces," he said. "Canada is calling on Iranian authorities to conduct fair and transparent counting of all ballots."

Hadi Ghaemi, spokesman for the International Campaign for Human Rights in Iran, denounced the outcome as "a Tehran Tiananmen" — a reference to China's brutal 1989 crackdown on pro-democracy activists — and urged the international community not to recognize the result.

The election outcome will not sharply alter Iran's main policies or sway major decisions, such as possible talks with Washington or nuclear policies. Those crucial issues rest with the ruling clerics headed by Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

But the election focused on what the office of the Iranian president can influence: boosting Iran's sinking economy, pressing for greater media and political freedoms, and being Iran's main envoy to the world.

Iran does not allow international election monitors. During the 2005 election, when Ahmadinejad won the presidency, there were some allegations of vote rigging from losers, but the claims were never investigated.

Source--MSNBC

It's time for the Iranian people to call for an investigation to see if there was any election fraud.

 

[Al-zakir]

It's time for the Iranian people to call for an investigation to see if there was any election fraud.

Bro, Have you forgotten about 2000 election that George W bush won by cheating on Florida? I have not seen any investigation took place thus why are you suggestion such?