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After Black holes, what are these White holes???

Do you believe White holes may also exist?

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Wait, I know about Black holes, what are these White holes.....???

Sailors have their tales about krakens and about pirates and other stuff like that. Physicists have theories about white holes: cosmic monsters that overlap the line between tall tale and actuality. Yet to be seen in the space, white holes might be only mathematical giants. But according to recent research, if a speculative theory known as loop quantum gravity is true, white holes could be not just only real but we might have already observed them. A white whole is, somewhat, the reverse of a black hole. According to Caltech physicist Sean Carroll, a black hole is a region of space where you can enter but you can never escape due to its powerful gravitational pull; a white hole is a region where you choice of leaving but you can never go back. Otherwise both share precisely the similar mathematics, precisely the same geometry. That boils down to some vital features: a singularity, where mass is pressed into a point of infinite density, and have an event horizon, the unseen “point of no return” first defined mathematically by the German physicist Karl Schwarzschild in 1916. For a black hole, the event horizon symbolizes a one-way entry; for a white hole, it’s exit-only scenario.

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There is definite proof that black holes truly exist, and astrophysicists have a strong understanding of what it requires to make one. Visualize a white Hole is hard. One prospect comprises a spinning black hole. According to Einstein’s general theory of relativity, the rotation smudges the singularity into a circle, creating it imaginable in theory to travel through the spinning black hole without being crushed. General relativity’s equations propose that someone dropping into such a black hole might go through a tunnel in space-time called a wormhole and appear from a white hole that its matters into a different areas of space or even period of time.
Although mathematical answers to those equations exist for white holes, Andrew Hamilton, an astrophysicist at the University of Colorado at Boulder say “they’re does not exist in reality,” .That is because they define universes that comprise only black holes, white holes and wormholes—no matter, radiation or even energy. Certainly, earlier research, counting Hamilton’s, proposes that anything that falls into a rotating black hole will basically plug up the wormhole, avoiding the creation of a channel to a white hole.

Einstein’s General Relativity, from which Hamilton draws his calculations, breaks down at a singularity of a black hole. Stephen Hsu, a physicist at Michigan State University in East Lansing, says “The energy density and the curvature become so large that classical gravity is not a good description of what’s happening there. Maybe a more comprehensive model of gravity—one that works as well on the quantum level as it does on bulky ones—would disprove the variability and allow for white holes.”

Certainly, a unified theory that combines gravity and quantum mechanics is one of the holy grails of modern physics. Applying one such theory to black holes, theorists Hal Haggard and Carlo Rovelli of Aix-Marseille University in France have presented that black holes could transform into white holes via a quantum procedure. In July last year, they issued their work online.

Loop quantum gravity suggests that space-time is fabricated of fundamental construction blocks formed like loops. According to Haggard and Rovelli, the loops’ limited size stops a dying star from collapsing all the way down into a point of endless bulk, and the shrinking object recoils into a white hole instead.
The black-to-white transformation could resolve a nettlesome puzzle known as the black hole information paradox. The idea that information can be destroyed is abomination in physics, and general relativity states that anything, counting information, that drops into a black hole can never escape. It does not mean that s black holes only act as protected safes for any information they slurp up, but Stephen Hawking presented 40 years ago that black holes essentially evaporate with time. That directed to the alarming prospect that the information confined within black hole could be lost too, generating a discussion that rages to this day.


It is far from clear whether loop quantum gravity is an exact explanation of reality. The only sign we get of white holes might be in only models that we create in labs and kitchen sinks. But that’s okay. Just thinking about these theoretical cosmic creatures can advance physicists’ insight, even if the actual world is confused and not like those precise conditions. That’s the way in which white holes are very valuable for a physicists.


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Basically a singularity of anti-gravity.

There is still too much we do not know. There is much we still have no clue about Black Holes. There may be all kinds of structures behind their event horizon that we simply have no way of knowing right now. We simply say "Physics breaks down" in singularities.
 
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I must confess that this is the first time I am reading about white-holes. But then I should have expected it because for every positive there's a negative in nature.
@thesolar65 -FYI
 
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still we don't know whether black hole exist or not....
 
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i never heared about white hole...btw black hole consumed everything inside and what is inside still dont know...
 
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There is proof that Blackholes are there. In fact the Universe is filled with Blackholes. However, there is no proof that Whiteholes exist, though mathematically they can exist. However, it is bizarre to think how they behave if you think them to be opposite of Blackholes.

We are about 99% sure they exist now :D. But of course we are only scratching the surface literally of what they actually are.

We are 110% sure they exist. And they are the masters of the Universe
 
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We are about 99% sure they exist now :D. But of course we are only scratching the surface literally of what they actually are.
whatever white hole i am sure he is brother of black hole...so both will be work same...niggaaa/whiteee breeed:p::p::p::p::p:
 
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i never heared about white hole...btw black hole consumed everything inside and what is inside still dont know...
Consume inside and nullify every thing?
Or "transform " all matter and energy into more discrete form and then "throw" it else where via White hole.....?

There is proof that Blackholes are there. In fact the Universe is filled with Blackholes. However, there is no proof that Whiteholes exist, though mathematically they can exist. However, it is bizarre to think how they behave if you think them to be opposite of Blackholes.



We are 110% sure they exist. And they are the masters of the Universe
I believe Black holes, White holes and Wormhole exist.
Consider the situation in which Black hole is present on one end as universal absorber a wormhole in between as universal channel and then White hole at the other end of Wormhole as universal emitter

Nothing can escape black hole, nothing can enter White hole. If that theory is right then it mean there exist some force exactly opposite to Gravity. I.e universal repel force, I don't know what it's called, anti Gravity or what's so ever, but it's indeed linked with White holes. If that thing is discovered then it will be revolutionize space tech and knowledge.....

Also if we suppose that Wormholes are channel to enter into another dimension or universe which may or may not be parallel to our time zone.Then it mean once we enter another dimension we cannot return back to our dimension, not at least from same worm hole as we will be facing white hole on our current side.... and it's impossible to enter in White hole...... hence in order to return back home, we have to find another black hole in our current dimension with worm hole , which has white hole in our home dimension..... just like a channel system..... :agree:

What you say....?
 
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Consume inside and nullify every thing?
Or "transform " all matter and energy into more discrete form and then "throw" it else where via White hole.....?


I believe Black holes, White holes and Wormhole exist.
Consider the situation in which Black hole is present on one end as universal absorber a wormhole in between as universal channel and then White hole at the other end of Wormhole as universal emitter

Nothing can escape black hole, nothing can enter White hole. If that theory is right then it mean there exist some force exactly opposite to Gravity. I.e universal repel force, I don't know what it's called, anti Gravity or what's so ever, but it's indeed linked with White holes. If that thing is discovered then it will be revolutionize space tech and knowledge.....

Also if we suppose that Wormholes are channel to enter into another dimension or universe which may or may not be parallel to our time zone.Then it mean once we enter another dimension we cannot return back to our dimension, not at least from same worm hole as we will be facing white hole on our current side.... and it's impossible to enter in White hole...... hence in order to return back home, we have to find another black hole in our current dimension with worm hole , which has white hole in our home dimension..... just like a channel system..... :agree:

What you say....?

Gravity keeps everything together and anti Gravity repeals. If anti gravity repeals, how can you expect white holes to hold themselves? You cannot expect something to emit matter for long times. So even if white holes are born, they annihilate themselves in matter of nano seconds.
 
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still we don't know whether black hole exist or not....

You might not be but rest of Humanity is sure. All galaxies have black holes in its center and black holes have been confirmed to exist in universe through gravitational lensing.

i never heared about white hole...btw black hole consumed everything inside and what is inside still dont know...

Consume inside and nullify every thing?
Or "transform " all matter and energy into more discrete form and then "throw" it else where via White hole.....?


I believe Black holes, White holes and Wormhole exist.
Consider the situation in which Black hole is present on one end as universal absorber a wormhole in between as universal channel and then White hole at the other end of Wormhole as universal emitter

Nothing can escape black hole, nothing can enter White hole. If that theory is right then it mean there exist some force exactly opposite to Gravity. I.e universal repel force, I don't know what it's called, anti Gravity or what's so ever, but it's indeed linked with White holes. If that thing is discovered then it will be revolutionize space tech and knowledge.....

Also if we suppose that Wormholes are channel to enter into another dimension or universe which may or may not be parallel to our time zone.Then it mean once we enter another dimension we cannot return back to our dimension, not at least from same worm hole as we will be facing white hole on our current side.... and it's impossible to enter in White hole...... hence in order to return back home, we have to find another black hole in our current dimension with worm hole , which has white hole in our home dimension..... just like a channel system..... :agree:

What you say....?

They don't consume per se. That's a totally ignorant answer. By consume you are treating gravity as a force. Gravity as per "Theory of Relativity" is not a force but a curvature of space-time. So there is no sucking in.

Read on geodesics first. Light will travel a straight line because that's the smallest distance between two points on flat surface. However on curved geodesics the smallest distance may be a curve.

What the modern theory of gravity says is the curvature of space time around black holes are so twisted that light which follows a "SMALLEST DISTANCE RULE" on a geodesic has no possible way to come out. i.e. no such curves exist which comes out of the blackhole.

What it means is light is almost in an infinite loop inside a blackhole but it does exist. Just because it looks black doesn't mean it don't. It's just that things inside event horizon cannot be observed from any point in spacetime outside the horizon.
Black holes basically can be understood as all set of events in spacetime which cannot be located or ordered within our set of events in any way because of fucked up space time curvature
@Spectre @Kashmiri Pandit @applesauce @Slav Defence Your kind inputs please :)
 
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Gravity keeps everything together and anti Gravity repeals. If anti gravity repeals, how can you expect white holes to hold themselves? You cannot expect something to emit matter for long times. So even if white holes are born, they annihilate themselves in matter of nano seconds.
I don't think every thing in universe is dependant upon gravity to keep itself intact. In case of matter we can say that, but for dark energy......:undecided:
May be White holes are not permanent. They born and die time to time.

You might not be but rest of Humanity is sure. All galaxies have black holes in its center and black holes have been confirmed to exist in universe through gravitational lensing.





They don't consume per se. That's a totally ignorant answer. By consume you are treating gravity as a force. Gravity as per "Theory of Relativity" is not a force but a curvature of space-time. So there is no sucking in.

Read on geodesics first. Light will travel a straight line because that's the smallest distance between two points on flat surface. However on curved geodesics the smallest distance may be a curve.

What the modern theory of gravity says is the curvature of space time around black holes are so twisted that light which follows a "SMALLEST DISTANCE RULE" on a geodesic has no possible way to come out. i.e. no such curves exist which comes out of the blackhole.

What it means is light is almost in an infinite loop inside a blackhole but it does exist. Just because it looks black doesn't mean it don't. It's just that things inside event horizon cannot be observed from any point in spacetime outside the horizon.
Black holes basically can be understood as all set of events in spacetime which cannot be located or ordered within our set of events in any way because of fucked up space time curvature
@Spectre @Kashmiri Pandit @applesauce @Slav Defence Your kind inputs please :)
How about if we say "gravity " is all about descend of Curvature in time space and this descend is created by matter object. Let's say there exist a similar ascend in time space which is created by anti matter or by some stuff which is opposite to matter..... does it create a "force" which is same in magnitude of gravity, but opposite in direction.....?

We always discuss curvature of time space in the form of "pit" which create gravity and his pit also bend light just as you said. How about we deal with "heap" or "cliff" of time space....?
This will generate an opposite response.... :-)
 
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I don't think every thing in universe is dependant upon gravity to keep itself intact. In case of matter we can say that, but for dark energy......:undecided:
May be White holes are not permanent. They born and die time to time.

That is why I said in one of my previous post, if you think White holes to operate exactly opposite as Black holes, you would find White holes behave bizarrely.
 
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Consume inside and nullify every thing?
Or "transform " all matter and energy into more discrete form and then "throw" it else where via White hole.....?

They may be just mirrors of each other.


Gravity keeps everything together and anti Gravity repeals. If anti gravity repeals, how can you expect white holes to hold themselves? You cannot expect something to emit matter for long times. So even if white holes are born, they annihilate themselves in matter of nano seconds.

Well the big bang itself may be the result of one big white hole ;)
 
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