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Lol good. Choke these epicenters of intolerance and radicalism.


Institutions of higher learning including the University of Missouri and Evergreen State College have faced significant financial repercussions following their decision to tolerate radical calls to curb free speech rights.

A report published by Fox News on September 1 argues that prospective students and parents are growing wary of universities that are bowing to the demands of leftist faculty and students who want to de-platform speakers and label certain ideas as “off-limits.”

Both the University of Missouri and Evergreen State College have faced serious financial repercussions in response to decisions that were made over left-wing protests. These repercussions in include effects on institutional reputation, which affects all students as they go out into the world and seek employment.

The University of Missouri has closed five dormitory buildings following a series of protests that took place in 2015. The university’s residential life director, Frankie Minor, announced in April that three additional dorm buildings would be “taken offline” for Fall 2017 academic year due to a decrease in first-year enrollment. This was announced in an email that informed student employees who work in residential life that they may be transferred to another job on campus due to the lack of enrollment. Most assumed that the drop in enrollment was in response to a serious of protests that took place on the campus in 2015. Most memorably, then-Professor Melissa Click called for some “muscle” to remove a student journalist was documenting the protests with his camera.

More recently, Evergreen State College faced a similar drop in enrollment and a massive $2.1 million budget shortfall following a series of chaotic protests over Professor Bret Weinstein’s email about a planned activism event at the college.

Jacqueline Pfeffer Merrill of the American Council of Trustees and Alumni told Fox News that the way an institution approaches free speech matters greatly to prospective parents and students. “When they look to what college to pick, parents and students are thinking of the largest investment their family is likely to make beyond the purchase of a home,” Pfeffer Merrill said. “Across the political spectrum, one of the most essential assets is [the opportunity] to be exposed to a wide range of views.”

@Nilgiri @Hamartia Antidote @Gomig-21 @T-72M1
 
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Lol good. Choke these epicenters of intolerance and radicalism.


Institutions of higher learning including the University of Missouri and Evergreen State College have faced significant financial repercussions following their decision to tolerate radical calls to curb free speech rights.

A report published by Fox News on September 1 argues that prospective students and parents are growing wary of universities that are bowing to the demands of leftist faculty and students who want to de-platform speakers and label certain ideas as “off-limits.”

Both the University of Missouri and Evergreen State College have faced serious financial repercussions in response to decisions that were made over left-wing protests. These repercussions in include effects on institutional reputation, which affects all students as they go out into the world and seek employment.

The University of Missouri has closed five dormitory buildings following a series of protests that took place in 2015. The university’s residential life director, Frankie Minor, announced in April that three additional dorm buildings would be “taken offline” for Fall 2017 academic year due to a decrease in first-year enrollment. This was announced in an email that informed student employees who work in residential life that they may be transferred to another job on campus due to the lack of enrollment. Most assumed that the drop in enrollment was in response to a serious of protests that took place on the campus in 2015. Most memorably, then-Professor Melissa Click called for some “muscle” to remove a student journalist was documenting the protests with his camera.

More recently, Evergreen State College faced a similar drop in enrollment and a massive $2.1 million budget shortfall following a series of chaotic protests over Professor Bret Weinstein’s email about a planned activism event at the college.

Jacqueline Pfeffer Merrill of the American Council of Trustees and Alumni told Fox News that the way an institution approaches free speech matters greatly to prospective parents and students. “When they look to what college to pick, parents and students are thinking of the largest investment their family is likely to make beyond the purchase of a home,” Pfeffer Merrill said. “Across the political spectrum, one of the most essential assets is [the opportunity] to be exposed to a wide range of views.”

@Nilgiri @Hamartia Antidote @Gomig-21 @T-72M1

Thumbs up!
I hope some big names get screwed for allowing the wacky left to tell them what is "correct". The bigger the blowback the better.
 
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To be an educational institution in this country and in this day and age and to think that you can "curb free speech rights" is nothing short of suicide. It's really dumbfounding that these are institutions of higher learning and they don't know that? That's just plain stupid.

Maybe they figured that having a moral stand against certain hate groups would actually yield better enrollment of minority groups through scholarships and perhaps be seen as schools that are sensitive to certain groups like the NCAA etc., perhaps thinking along the lines of affirmative action and that this type of policy would actually help enrollment instead of the opposite. Seems like it backfired.

Nothing is more essential than the freedom of speech, no matter the content of that speech, and to think that some educational institutions thought it was a good idea to limit it? I don't think you'll see the big schools like Harvard, Princeton, Yale and the likes of those go anywhere near that idea.
 
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To be an educational institution in this country and in this day and age and to think that you can "curb free speech rights" is nothing short of suicide. It's really dumbfounding that these are institutions of higher learning and they don't know that? That's just plain stupid.

Maybe they figured that having a moral stand against certain hate groups would actually yield better enrollment of minority groups through scholarships and perhaps be seen as schools that are sensitive to certain groups like the NCAA etc., perhaps thinking along the lines of affirmative action and that this type of policy would actually help enrollment instead of the opposite. Seems like it backfired.

Nothing is more essential than the freedom of speech, no matter the content of that speech, and to think that some educational institutions thought it was a good idea to limit it? I don't think you'll see the big schools like Harvard, Princeton, Yale and the likes of those go anywhere near that idea.
Yet, a speaker was successfully blocked out by violent protest in UC Berkeley. To curb free speech, it is far more effective to use violent action than so called radical calls, just like Nazi brown shirt did.
 
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Lol good. Choke these epicenters of intolerance and radicalism.


Institutions of higher learning including the University of Missouri and Evergreen State College have faced significant financial repercussions following their decision to tolerate radical calls to curb free speech rights.

A report published by Fox News on September 1 argues that prospective students and parents are growing wary of universities that are bowing to the demands of leftist faculty and students who want to de-platform speakers and label certain ideas as “off-limits.”

Both the University of Missouri and Evergreen State College have faced serious financial repercussions in response to decisions that were made over left-wing protests. These repercussions in include effects on institutional reputation, which affects all students as they go out into the world and seek employment.

The University of Missouri has closed five dormitory buildings following a series of protests that took place in 2015. The university’s residential life director, Frankie Minor, announced in April that three additional dorm buildings would be “taken offline” for Fall 2017 academic year due to a decrease in first-year enrollment. This was announced in an email that informed student employees who work in residential life that they may be transferred to another job on campus due to the lack of enrollment. Most assumed that the drop in enrollment was in response to a serious of protests that took place on the campus in 2015. Most memorably, then-Professor Melissa Click called for some “muscle” to remove a student journalist was documenting the protests with his camera.

More recently, Evergreen State College faced a similar drop in enrollment and a massive $2.1 million budget shortfall following a series of chaotic protests over Professor Bret Weinstein’s email about a planned activism event at the college.

Jacqueline Pfeffer Merrill of the American Council of Trustees and Alumni told Fox News that the way an institution approaches free speech matters greatly to prospective parents and students. “When they look to what college to pick, parents and students are thinking of the largest investment their family is likely to make beyond the purchase of a home,” Pfeffer Merrill said. “Across the political spectrum, one of the most essential assets is [the opportunity] to be exposed to a wide range of views.”

@Nilgiri @Hamartia Antidote @Gomig-21 @T-72M1

There is bound to be blowback and its started. A couple colleges now need to bite the bullet, buck the current "trend" and become fully open towards and enshrining of free speech so honest freedom loving youth can congregate and consolidate there. They will actually probably do very well financially as well as they make a name/reputation for it...and real quality of that environment w.r.t education will naturally flourish with time too.

I don't think you'll see the big schools like Harvard, Princeton, Yale and the likes of those go anywhere near that idea.

They don't do it so overtly but they have their subtle means and methods to ensure the majority (at least outset perceivably) of enrolment is and stays in a particular flavour of groupthink.
 
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There is bound to be blowback and its started. A couple colleges now need to bite the bullet, buck the current "trend" and become fully open towards and enshrining of free speech so honest freedom loving youth can congregate and consolidate there. They will actually probably do very well financially as well as they make a name/reputation for it...and real quality of that environment w.r.t education will naturally flourish with time too.
You know that is what I hope and who knows they might wake the fcuk up and change course. But the way things are going with all of the censoring and crackdown on free speech because of leftist lynch mob tactics on the street level and leftist infiltration if major institutions (including academia) I don't think these people will learn their lesson until they have burned and destroyed everything and degenerated society to a primitive level. The left is insane and radical. They are hell bent. It's scary. It's a cult of "equality". They're not going to stop until they achieve their Utopia, which is never because it's simply not possible but they can give two sh!ts, it's not like they let anything stop them from their social experiments before.

And definitely there is a blowback in the form of a radicalization of conservative movements of swelling of "far" right groups because average law abiding people are simply pissed off pandering to these leftist cry babies.
 
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A report published by Fox News

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http://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-fa...-hurricane-harvey-swimming-shark-video-656375

The same news network that said this?

prospective students and parents are growing wary of universities that are bowing to the demands of leftist faculty and students who want to de-platform speakers and label certain ideas as “off-limits.”

Most likely complete bull. This economy demands degrees if you want to get to an even sustainable middle-class level of living then you need a degree, any parent would never knowingly undercut their child's chance in life because of a rule about hate speech.



Universities and colleges are Institutions of education, not a platform for an idiot like Milo who couldn't even tell you what's the difference between a red dwarf sun and a white dwarf sun. What many of the alt-right consider "Left-leaning" "propaganda" is actual facts and truth like climate change or refusing to believe that Nazi Eugenics is complete bullshit but they refuse to acknowledge that because it goes against their narrative.



The University of Missouri has closed five dormitory buildings following a series of protests that took place in 2015. The university’s residential life director, Frankie Minor, announced in April that three additional dorm buildings would be “taken offline” for Fall 2017 academic year due to a decrease in first-year enrollment. This was announced in an email that informed student employees who work in residential life that they may be transferred to another job on campus due to the lack of enrollment. Most assumed that the drop in enrollment was in response to a serious of protests that took place on the campus in 2015. Most memorably, then-Professor Melissa Click called for some “muscle” to remove a student journalist was documenting the protests with his camera.

More recently, Evergreen State College faced a similar drop in enrollment and a massive $2.1 million budget shortfall following a series of chaotic protests over Professor Bret Weinstein’s email about a planned activism event at the college.

None of these had nothing to do with rules about hate speech, parents when researching these universities saw the protest and immediately avoided it to make sure of their children's safety. It has absolutely nothing to do with de-platforming idiots.


Jacqueline Pfeffer Merrill of the American Council of Trustees and Alumni told Fox News that the way an institution approaches free speech matters greatly to prospective parents and students. “When they look to what college to pick, parents and students are thinking of the largest investment their family is likely to make beyond the purchase of a home,” Pfeffer Merrill said. “Across the political spectrum, one of the most essential assets is [the opportunity] to be exposed to a wide range of views.”

Yeah, NO, whoever made this statement is a bloody idiot. When looking at a University nobody's number one deal breaker is "OH this place has to have a wide range of political views and must be able to tolerate hate speech and discrimination".

you'll see the big schools like Harvard, Princeton, Yale and the likes of those go anywhere near that idea.



"Harvard"

Introduction
"All members of the University community have a right to treatment with dignity and respect and to full participation in the community. These rights extend to classrooms, workplaces, and residences. They include the right to bodily safety and integrity. In recognition of these rights, the Faculty of Arts and Sciences is committed to creating and maintaining an environment at Harvard in which all individuals—faculty, staff, and students—are treated with dignity and feel safe and secure in their persons. These principles are fundamental to the attainment of a community devoted to teaching, learning, and research."

"Yale"

"In addition to the university’s primary obligation to protect free expression there are also ethical responsibilities assumed by each member of the university community, along with the right to enjoy free expression. Though these are much more difficult to state clearly, they are of great importance. If freedom of expression is to serve its purpose and thus the purpose of the university, it should seek to enhance understanding. Shock, hurt, and anger are not consequences to be weighed lightly. No member of the community with a decent respect for others should use, or encourage others to use, slurs and epithets intended to discredit another’s race, ethnic group, religion, or sex. It may sometimes be necessary in a university for civility and mutual respect to be superseded by the need to guarantee free expression. The values superseded are nevertheless important, and every member of the university community should consider them in exercising the fundamental right to free expression."



Peaceful dissent, protests, and demonstrations
In view of the obligation of Yale or of any university to promote the free expression of all views, the campus is open to any speaker whom students or members of the faculty have invited and for whom official arrangements to speak have been made with the University. The right of free expression in a university also includes the right to peaceful dissent, protests in peaceable assembly, and orderly demonstrations, which may include picketing and the distribution of leaflets. These are permitted on the Yale campus, subject to approval as to schedule and location by the appropriate University official, until or unless they disrupt regular or essential operations of the University or significantly infringe upon the rights of others, particularly the right to listen to a speech or lecture. It is a violation of University regulations for any member of the faculty, staff, or student body to prevent the orderly conduct of a University function or activity, such as a lecture, meeting, interview (including a job interview), ceremony, or other public event. It is similarly a violation of University regulations to block the legitimate activity of any person on the Yale campus or in any Yale building or facility. Demonstrations or protests which exceed these limits will subject the participants to temporary or permanent separation from the University."

"Princeton"


"The freedom to debate and discuss the merits of competing ideas does not, of course, mean that individuals may say whatever they wish, wherever they wish. The University may restrict expression that violates the law, that falsely defames a specific individual, that constitutes a genuine threat or harassment, that unjustifiably invades substantial privacy or confidentiality interests, or that is otherwise directly incompatible with the functioning of the University. In addition, the University may reasonably regulate the time, place, and manner of expression to ensure that it does not disrupt the ordinary activities of the University. But these are narrow exceptions to the general principle of freedom of expression, and it is vitally important that these exceptions never be used in a manner that is inconsistent with the University’s commitment to a completely free and open discussion of ideas."



"Respect for the rights, privileges, and sensibilities of each other is essential in preserving the spirit of community at Princeton. Actions which make the atmosphere intimidating, threatening, or hostile to individuals are therefore regarded as serious offenses. Abusive or harassing behavior, verbal or physical, which demeans, intimidates, threatens, or injures another because of personal characteristics or beliefs or their expression, is subject to University disciplinary sanctions as described above. Examples of personal characteristics or beliefs include but are not limited to sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, race, ethnicity, national origin, religion, and disability. Making tolerance of such behavior or submission to it a condition of employment, evaluation, compensation, or advancement is an especially serious offense. Procedures for resolving complaints or grievances on such matters are discussed under section 1.3 and section 1.7."


"Princeton University strives to be an intellectual and residential community in which all members can participate fully and equally,
in an atmosphere free from all manifestations of bias and from all forms of discrimination, harassment, exploitation, or intimidation. As an intellectual community, it attaches great value to freedom of expression and vigorous debate, but it also attaches great importance to mutual respect, and it deplores expressions of hatred directed against any individual or group. The University seeks to promote the full inclusion of all members and groups in every aspect of University life.

Mutual respect requires special sensitivity to issues of race and ethnicity. Expressions of racial or ethnic bias directed at individuals or groups undermine the civility and sense of community on which the well-being of the University depends. They devalue the distinctive contributions of the individuals affected and impair their ability to contribute their views and talents to the community and to benefit fully from participating in it. By alienating those individuals, they harm the whole community. The University calls on all its members to display the appropriate sensitivity and to challenge expressions of racial or ethnic bias whenever they encounter them."


Harassment is unwelcome verbal or physical behavior which is directed at a person based on a protected characteristic, when these behaviors are sufficiently severe and/or pervasive to have the effect of unreasonably interfering with an individual's educational experience, working conditions or living conditions by creating an intimidating, hostile, or offensive environment. Examples of conduct that can constitute harassment if based on an individual’s protected characteristic include but are not limited to:

  • Unwelcome jokes or comments about a legally protected characteristic (e.g., racial or ethnic jokes).
  • Disparaging remarks to a person about a legally protected characteristic (e.g., negative or offensive remarks or jokes about a person's religion or religious garments).
  • Displaying negative or offensive posters or pictures about a legally protected characteristic.
  • Electronic communications, such as e-mail, text messaging, and Internet use, that violate the Policy on Discrimination and/or Harassment.


Have any of these universities lose any prestige over their banning of hate speech? NOPE
 
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Why is my comment under moderator approval? I legit said nothing demeaning, it was just listing all the anti-defamation rules from 3 ivy league Universities.
 
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They don't do it so overtly but they have their subtle means and methods to ensure the majority (at least outset perceivably) of enrolment is and stays in a particular flavour of groupthink.

I think that tends to hold true more so with state universities rather than ivy league or private schools. Enrollment in state sponsored universities tend to favor minorities and/or students who can't afford a college education yet score high on their SAT's and become eligible for either financial aid or are awarded scholarships. Many of these state colleges are big sports schools and end up even recruiting a large portion of their student body from less privileged kids for the sake of playing on their athletic programs. College football, for example, is huge business for these schools. Ivy league and other non-state sponsored private colleges don't operate on that system and the majority of their enrollments come from middle/upper classed families who support the entire cost of their kids' education. So I think what you're saying applies more for state operated universities where they have to target certain groups simply based on financial criteria more so than Ivy league or private learning institutions. The latter will accept whomever based on their ability to pay the full (or majority of the tuition) and carry a certain GPA.
 
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Why is my comment under moderator approval? I legit said nothing demeaning, it was just listing all the anti-defamation rules from 3 ivy league Universities.

That's happened to me a couple of times. I even tagged a mod to approve it but it was never taken care of. And the content was nothing but a photo of a TOR/M1 and Pechora SAM with the description lol. Probably a glitch.

To your point about schools having anti-defamation rules, that goes without saying. That's even something that includes profanities. I don't think there's any school that would allow someone to get up to the podium during an assembly with faculty or guests or family members and allow them to use profanites, let alone target a particular person or group with slurs etc. Anti-defamation rules are standard all around, I would think.

It's a fine line and a conundrum. While free speech is essential and fundamental, they can only allow so much of it. At some point, when it crosses the "moral" line, it becomes a problem. So it's freedom of speech.......up to a point.
 
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