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Exiled by some of my countrymen who are willing to kill for my differing in opinion.


Your countrymen are happy with Hindus and Christians , but were not happy with your "differ in opinion" so wanted to kill you ?? but then they thought why to kill him, lets exile him . right ??? so.... tell me how did they exiled you ? arranged a passport and UK visa for you ? well, that's what you need to visit any country right. ? Or just took you to Nadra office first for Passport and then to British embassy for a visa ?

BTW, My roommate (from last 3 years) is an Ahmadi. What you suggest me ? should i kill him , or exile him from my room (that's only what i can do to him) ?

there is a difference between self exile and exile .

BUT, no wounder. many of Pakistanis do many of tricks to get settle in Europe. One of my friend from college, traveled Belgium on documents. dustbin his documents at the airport. and surrendered to the police. told them a story that his father is a tribal man against of Taliban. so Taliban attacked my home killed my father, mother and 2 brothers. and i somehow escaped the place and managed to travel here without documents.

they provided him a lawyer, he fight a case for asylum. at the end "won" the case, as the authorities were not able to visit address he provided for conformation (tribal area) .

and you will be glad to know that he now a days maybe using some sort of forum with an Belgium flag with a username "Pakistani exile" ....


No wounder. Mr.Self exiled ... nice to talk you. good luck for your other fellows following you to UK (on self exiling process, As we know) ..

are you a muslim or kaffir?just wanted to know,no big deal

it should be ; "are you a Muslim or non-Muslim" ... think before you type brother. your words can harm someone's sentiments.
 
Your countrymen are happy with Hindus and Christians , but were not happy with your "differ in opinion" so wanted to kill you ?? but then they thought why to kill him, lets exile him . right ??? so.... tell me how did they exiled you ? arranged a passport and UK visa for you ? well, that's what you need to visit any country right. ? Or just took you to Nadra office first for Passport and then to British embassy for a visa ?

BTW, My roommate (from last 3 years) is an Ahmadi. What you suggest me ? should i kill him , or exile him from my room (that's only what i can do to him) ?

there is a difference between self exile and exile .

BUT, no wounder. many of Pakistanis do many of tricks to get settle in Europe. One of my friend from college, traveled Belgium on documents. dustbin his documents at the airport. and surrendered to the police. told them a story that his father is a tribal man against of Taliban. so Taliban attacked my home killed my father, mother and 2 brothers. and i somehow escaped the place and managed to travel here without documents.

they provided him a lawyer, he fight a case for asylum. at the end "won" the case, as the authorities were not able to visit address he provided for conformation (tribal area) .

and you will be glad to know that he now a days maybe using some sort of forum with an Belgium flag with a username "Pakistani exile" ....


No wounder. Mr.Self exiled ... nice to talk you. good luck for your other fellows following you to UK (on self exiling process, As we know) ..



it should be ; "are you a Muslim or non-Muslim" ... think before you type brother. your words can harm someone's sentiments.
ok sorry if i hurt any bodies feeling
 
Very appreciated move towards development in Afghanistan. :tup:

I can see one day will come when India and Pakistan will cooperate with each other in a peaceful way with Afghanistan for its stability and development.It is not like people of Pakistan do not like to be engaged with Afganistan in a peaceful or productive way, rather it is the policy of the Gov of Pakistan that is creating mistrust between your nation...
 
ok sorry if i hurt any bodies feeling
:tup:

I can see one day will come when India and Pakistan will cooperate with each other in a peaceful way with Afghanistan for its stability and development.It is not like people of Pakistan do not like to be engaged with Afganistan in a peaceful or productive way, rather it is the policy of the Gov of Pakistan that is creating mistrust between your nation...

hope for the best. :cheers: ... work for the best.. that's the key.

beside other benefits ,
developed Afghanistan can reduce our (Pakistan's) population by 5 millions. is se barya or kia baat ho sakti hay veray.. :D
 
:tup:



hope for the best. :cheers: ... work for the best.. that's the key.

beside other benefits ,
developed Afghanistan can reduce our (Pakistan's) population by 5 millions. is se barya or kia baat ho sakti hay veray.. :D

I agree...it is really a nightmare for Pakistan to provide refugee to such a big number of people for long time...I can understand that Pakistan has some tactical objective to use the refugee crisis for its own benifit...But if you use that card for long term, it could be counter productive too..Other agencies will use them against you....So Pakistan has more responsibility and advantage of stabilizing Afganistan and asking the refugee to go back to their homeland...At the end of the day, Pakistan is nott their country...
 
Its the responsibility of all nations to assist the Afghans but also ensure its territory isnt used to destabilize regional countries, or provoke regional chess-board games. Pakistan has for too long born the brunt of the Afghan tragedy. While the Iranians kept them in prison camps, we gave them open shelter and invested over $500 million in infrastructure/donations/grants to Afghan people. More needs to be done to help the Afghans get out of their perpetual state of war and self-destruction

Pakistan is the largest Aid donor among Muslim nations to Afghanistan. We gave constructed several hospitals, schools and even university blocks and are planning to build a motorway to Kabul.

nearly 30+ projects, many of which have been completed - Alhamdolillah
 
Your countrymen are happy with Hindus and Christians , but were not happy with your "differ in opinion" so wanted to kill you ?? but then they thought why to kill him, lets exile him . right ??? so.... tell me how did they exiled you ? arranged a passport and UK visa for you ? well, that's what you need to visit any country right. ? Or just took you to Nadra office first for Passport and then to British embassy for a visa ?

BTW, My roommate (from last 3 years) is an Ahmadi. What you suggest me ? should i kill him , or exile him from my room (that's only what i can do to him) ?

there is a difference between self exile and exile .

BUT, no wounder. many of Pakistanis do many of tricks to get settle in Europe. One of my friend from college, traveled Belgium on documents. dustbin his documents at the airport. and surrendered to the police. told them a story that his father is a tribal man against of Taliban. so Taliban attacked my home killed my father, mother and 2 brothers. and i somehow escaped the place and managed to travel here without documents.

they provided him a lawyer, he fight a case for asylum. at the end "won" the case, as the authorities were not able to visit address he provided for conformation (tribal area) .

and you will be glad to know that he now a days maybe using some sort of forum with an Belgium flag with a username "Pakistani exile" ....


No wounder. Mr.Self exiled ... nice to talk you. good luck for your other fellows following you to UK (on self exiling process, As we know) ..



it should be ; "are you a Muslim or non-Muslim" ... think before you type brother. your words can harm someone's sentiments.

Lol. Now that you have that off your chest, do you feel better? It is true, Pakistanis cannot live for more than 5 seconds without bringing up the religion of the other or theirs. Jog on.:coffee:
 
Mods please take care of trolls who are dragging Pakistan into it.

People criticizing pakistan should first read the history. Pakistan has tried to establish brotherly relations with Afghanistan only to be stabbed in the back by afghanistan.

) Afghanistan imposed a war on Pakistan not long after pakistan's independence.
) Afghanistan tried it's best to block Pakistan's UN entry.
) Afghanistan funded and provided safe havens to terrorists fighting pakistan, long before all these Afghan wars started.
) Afghanistan claim 60% of Pakistani land.

I can go on but i hate spoon feeding wanna be disables who have access to internet but can't read proper history.
 
You must be delusional ! Karzai and a few thousand afghans compared to housing a few million for 3 decades!

LOL.

I was not comparing the numbers, merely pointing out that if we had been close to the Afghans, we would have taken more. We are used to taking millions of refugees fleeing from war zones, remember?

Karzai and a few thousand other Afghans were the ones who made it all the way. Not our fault about the ones getting stuck somewhere else.
 
Lol. Now that you have that off your chest, do you feel better?

as expected. sawaal gandum, jawaab channa.... What are you upto ? hiding behind "LOL" ?? be a gentleman and answer what i have said.

It is true, Pakistanis cannot live for more than 5 seconds without bringing up the religion of the other or theirs.

Brother, it was you who first talked about "differ in openion" . and i know what you mean when you say "differ in openion" .. so !! i replied as per what you said. But,,,,, but,,, but

Only one sentence in my post was related to religion. what about the whole remaining post ? you didn't comment on that. why ? why only on that religion part ?

and brother as you said, that bold part of your post, you tried to exclude yourself by saying "Pakistanis cannot live....." while it should be "WE Paksitanis cannot live........"""... i know you are exiled .. :rofl::rofl: but even your word "exile" have Pakistan with it.. i.e; Pakistani exile..............

Ok. Ok. Ok... just answer this Part of my Previous post. now this time Please don't hide yourself behind any LoL amLOL...



Your countrymen are happy with Hindus and Christians , but were not happy with your "differ in opinion" so wanted to kill you ?? but then they thought why to kill him, lets exile him . right ??? so.... tell me how did they exiled you ? arranged a passport and UK visa for you ? well, that's what you need to visit any country right. ? Or just took you to Nadra office first for Passport and then to British embassy for a visa ?


BTW, there is a difference between self exile and exile .


:-) .. Please . Go ahead.
 
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نریندر مودی نے ہرات میں سلمیٰ ڈیم کا افتتاح کردیا
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میڈیا پلیئر کے بغیر آگے جائیں
میڈیا پلیئر کے لیے مدد

میڈیا پلیئر سے باہر۔ واپس جانے کے لیے ’enter کا بٹن دبائیں اور جاری رکھنے کے لیے tab دبائیں۔
انڈین وزیراعظم نریندر مودی افغانستان کے دورے پر ہیں جہاں انھوں نے ہرات میں سلمیٰ ڈیم کا افتتاح کیا ہے۔

سلمیٰ ڈیم ہائیڈرو الیکٹرک پراجیکٹ ہے اور یہ ایران کی سرحد سے متصل صوبہ ہرات میں چشت شریف کے مقام پر واقع ہے۔

یہ 30 کروڑ ڈالر کا منصوبہ ہے۔ اس ہائیڈرو پراجیکٹ سے 42 میگا واٹ بجلی پیدا ہوسکے گی اور تقریباً 75 ہزار ایکڑ اراضی کو پانی کی سہولت دستیاب ہوگی۔

خیال رہے کہ کہ اس سے قبل نریندرمودی دسمبر 2015 میں کابل میں افغانستان کی پارلیمان کی عمارت کا افتتاح کر چکے ہیں جو انڈین تعاون سے تعمیر کی گئی تھی۔

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Image captionاسے انڈیا افغانستان دوستی ڈیم کا نام بھی دیا گیا ہے
سلمیٰ ڈیم کا سنگ بنیاد سنہ 1975 میں صدر داؤد کی دور حکومت میں رکھا گیا ہے۔ اس وقت سعودی عرب نے اس منصوبے پر سرمایہ کاری کی حامی بھری تھی لیکن ملک میں عدم استحکام اور خانہ جنگی کے باعث یہ منصوبہ کئی دہائیوں تک زیرالتوا رہا۔

انڈیا نے 1970 کی دہائی میں ہری رود یا دریائے ہری اور سلمیٰ کا سروے کیا تھا اور سنہ 2005 میں انڈیا نے اعلان کیا کہ وہ اس ڈیم کی تعمیر اور اس کے اخراجات فراہم کرے گا۔

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Image captionنریندرمودی دسمبر 2015 میں کابل میں افغانستان کی پارلیمان کی عمارت کا افتتاح کر چکے ہیں
اب کچھ تکنیکی اور سکیورٹی کی مشکلات کے باوجود یہ منصوبہ مکمل ہوچکا ہے۔

یہ ڈیم ہرات کے مغرب میں 170 کلومیٹر فاصلے پر واقع ہے اور اسے انڈیا افغانستان دوستی ڈیم کا نام بھی دیا گیا ہے۔

دریائے ہری پر تعمیر کیا گیا یہ ہائیڈرو الیکٹرک ڈیم 20 کلومیٹر لمبا، تین کلومیٹر چوڑا اور 107 میٹر بلند ہے۔

سلمیٰ ڈیم میں 64 کروڑ کیوبک میٹر پانی ذخیرہ کرنے کی گنجائش ہے۔ اس میں پانی کرنے کا کام ایک سال پہلے شروع ہوا تھا اور اب تک 50 کروڑ کیوبک میٹر پانی ذخیرہ کیا جا چکا ہے۔

اس منصوبے کے ذریعے چشت ضلعے سے لے کر ایرانی سرحد تک دو لاکھ ایکڑ اراضی کو آبپاشی کی سہولت میسر آسکتی ہے۔

اس میں تین ٹربائنز ہیں اور ہر ٹربائن 14 میگاواٹ بجلی پیدا کر سکتی ہے اس طرح کل 42 میگا واٹ بجلی پیدا ہوسکتی ہے جس سے 40 ہزار کے قریب گھرانے مستفید ہوں گے۔

گذشتہ چند دہائیوں میں یہ افغانستان میں تعمیر ہونے والا سب سے بڑا اور بنیادی منصوبہ ہے جس کی 30 کروڑ ڈالر کی لاگت آئی ہے، جو اسے انڈیا سے امداد کی صورت میں ملی تھی۔

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Image captionایران کی جانب سے بار ہا مرتبہ پانی کے بہاؤ میں کمی کے بارے میں خدشات کا اظہار کیا جا چکا ہے
اس ڈیم کی تعمیر سے درہائے ہری کا ایران کو ملنے والے پانی میں 73 فیصد کمی ہوگی۔ ایران اس دریا کے پانی سے اپنے مشرقی علاقوں کی آب پاشی فراہم کرتا ہے۔

ایران کی جانب سے بار ہا مرتبہ پانی کے بہاؤ میں کمی کے بارے میں خدشات کا اظہار کیا جا چکا ہے۔

ڈیم کی انتظامات اور مرمت کے لیے 50 افغان انجینئرز کو تربیت فراہم کرنے کی تجویز بھی پیش کی گئی ہے۔

انڈیا افغانستان دوستی ڈیم کو نہ صرف پانی پر کنٹرول کرنے کی ایک مثال کے طور پر دیکھا جا رہا بلکہ اسے مقامی سطح پر ہائیڈو پاور کی پیداوار کا منصوبہ بھی خیال کیا جارہا ہے۔

گذشتہ چند برسوں میں سلمیٰ ڈیم پر کی سکیورٹی پر تعینات اہلکاروں پر کئی بار حملے ہوئے ہیں جن میں کئی افراد کی ہلاکت ہوئی ہے۔

کچھ افراد کی جانب سے اس کا الزام ایران اور پاکستان پر عائد کیا جاتا ہے لیکن افغان حکومت کی جانب سے کبھی ایسا دعویٰ نہیں کیا گیا۔
نریندر مودی نے ہرات میں سلمیٰ ڈیم کا افتتاح کردیا
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شیئر
میڈیا پلیئر کے بغیر آگے جائیں
میڈیا پلیئر کے لیے مدد

میڈیا پلیئر سے باہر۔ واپس جانے کے لیے ’enter کا بٹن دبائیں اور جاری رکھنے کے لیے tab دبائیں۔
انڈین وزیراعظم نریندر مودی افغانستان کے دورے پر ہیں جہاں انھوں نے ہرات میں سلمیٰ ڈیم کا افتتاح کیا ہے۔

سلمیٰ ڈیم ہائیڈرو الیکٹرک پراجیکٹ ہے اور یہ ایران کی سرحد سے متصل صوبہ ہرات میں چشت شریف کے مقام پر واقع ہے۔

یہ 30 کروڑ ڈالر کا منصوبہ ہے۔ اس ہائیڈرو پراجیکٹ سے 42 میگا واٹ بجلی پیدا ہوسکے گی اور تقریباً 75 ہزار ایکڑ اراضی کو پانی کی سہولت دستیاب ہوگی۔

خیال رہے کہ کہ اس سے قبل نریندرمودی دسمبر 2015 میں کابل میں افغانستان کی پارلیمان کی عمارت کا افتتاح کر چکے ہیں جو انڈین تعاون سے تعمیر کی گئی تھی۔

160604105622__afghan-india_friendship_dam_in_herat_afghanistan_640x360_epa_nocredit.jpg
Image copyrightEPA
Image captionاسے انڈیا افغانستان دوستی ڈیم کا نام بھی دیا گیا ہے
سلمیٰ ڈیم کا سنگ بنیاد سنہ 1975 میں صدر داؤد کی دور حکومت میں رکھا گیا ہے۔ اس وقت سعودی عرب نے اس منصوبے پر سرمایہ کاری کی حامی بھری تھی لیکن ملک میں عدم استحکام اور خانہ جنگی کے باعث یہ منصوبہ کئی دہائیوں تک زیرالتوا رہا۔

انڈیا نے 1970 کی دہائی میں ہری رود یا دریائے ہری اور سلمیٰ کا سروے کیا تھا اور سنہ 2005 میں انڈیا نے اعلان کیا کہ وہ اس ڈیم کی تعمیر اور اس کے اخراجات فراہم کرے گا۔

160604105723_modi_asfraf_ghani_herat_afghanistan_640x360_afp_nocredit.jpg
Image copyrightAFP
Image captionنریندرمودی دسمبر 2015 میں کابل میں افغانستان کی پارلیمان کی عمارت کا افتتاح کر چکے ہیں
اب کچھ تکنیکی اور سکیورٹی کی مشکلات کے باوجود یہ منصوبہ مکمل ہوچکا ہے۔

یہ ڈیم ہرات کے مغرب میں 170 کلومیٹر فاصلے پر واقع ہے اور اسے انڈیا افغانستان دوستی ڈیم کا نام بھی دیا گیا ہے۔

دریائے ہری پر تعمیر کیا گیا یہ ہائیڈرو الیکٹرک ڈیم 20 کلومیٹر لمبا، تین کلومیٹر چوڑا اور 107 میٹر بلند ہے۔

سلمیٰ ڈیم میں 64 کروڑ کیوبک میٹر پانی ذخیرہ کرنے کی گنجائش ہے۔ اس میں پانی کرنے کا کام ایک سال پہلے شروع ہوا تھا اور اب تک 50 کروڑ کیوبک میٹر پانی ذخیرہ کیا جا چکا ہے۔

اس منصوبے کے ذریعے چشت ضلعے سے لے کر ایرانی سرحد تک دو لاکھ ایکڑ اراضی کو آبپاشی کی سہولت میسر آسکتی ہے۔

اس میں تین ٹربائنز ہیں اور ہر ٹربائن 14 میگاواٹ بجلی پیدا کر سکتی ہے اس طرح کل 42 میگا واٹ بجلی پیدا ہوسکتی ہے جس سے 40 ہزار کے قریب گھرانے مستفید ہوں گے۔

گذشتہ چند دہائیوں میں یہ افغانستان میں تعمیر ہونے والا سب سے بڑا اور بنیادی منصوبہ ہے جس کی 30 کروڑ ڈالر کی لاگت آئی ہے، جو اسے انڈیا سے امداد کی صورت میں ملی تھی۔

160604062336_modi_trip_tp_herat_afghanistan__640x360_bbc_nocredit.jpg

Image captionایران کی جانب سے بار ہا مرتبہ پانی کے بہاؤ میں کمی کے بارے میں خدشات کا اظہار کیا جا چکا ہے
اس ڈیم کی تعمیر سے درہائے ہری کا ایران کو ملنے والے پانی میں 73 فیصد کمی ہوگی۔ ایران اس دریا کے پانی سے اپنے مشرقی علاقوں کی آب پاشی فراہم کرتا ہے۔

ایران کی جانب سے بار ہا مرتبہ پانی کے بہاؤ میں کمی کے بارے میں خدشات کا اظہار کیا جا چکا ہے۔

ڈیم کی انتظامات اور مرمت کے لیے 50 افغان انجینئرز کو تربیت فراہم کرنے کی تجویز بھی پیش کی گئی ہے۔

انڈیا افغانستان دوستی ڈیم کو نہ صرف پانی پر کنٹرول کرنے کی ایک مثال کے طور پر دیکھا جا رہا بلکہ اسے مقامی سطح پر ہائیڈو پاور کی پیداوار کا منصوبہ بھی خیال کیا جارہا ہے۔

گذشتہ چند برسوں میں سلمیٰ ڈیم پر کی سکیورٹی پر تعینات اہلکاروں پر کئی بار حملے ہوئے ہیں جن میں کئی افراد کی ہلاکت ہوئی ہے۔

کچھ افراد کی جانب سے اس کا الزام ایران اور پاکستان پر عائد کیا جاتا ہے لیکن افغان حکومت کی جانب سے کبھی ایسا دعویٰ نہیں کیا گیا۔
https://defence.pk/threads/afghans-in-herat-celebrate-with-afghan-indian-flags-on-streets.433408/

Basically it means this dam was proposed in 1970 and Saudis promised for funding after 2005 Indian announced funding sum of 300 Mil US$ ,this dam is critical for water supply for Iran since before Dam Iran was using this water for its Western area irrigation and expected 73% decrease in water will be observed after this dam .

So Indians are back stabbing Iranians again and leaving Afg to fight for regional issues with Pak and Iran .Great Indian games
 
I agree...it is really a nightmare for Pakistan to provide refugee to such a big number of people for long time...I can understand that Pakistan has some tactical objective to use the refugee crisis for its own benifit...But if you use that card for long term, it could be counter productive too..Other agencies will use them against you....So Pakistan has more responsibility and advantage of stabilizing Afganistan and asking the refugee to go back to their homeland...At the end of the day, Pakistan is nott their country...

Agreed. Sir !! :enjoy:
 
Your countrymen are happy with Hindus and Christians , but were not happy with your "differ in opinion" so wanted to kill you ?? but then they thought why to kill him, lets exile him . right ??? so.... tell me how did they exiled you ? arranged a passport and UK visa for you ? well, that's what you need to visit any country right. ? Or just took you to Nadra office first for Passport and then to British embassy for a visa ?

BTW, My roommate (from last 3 years) is an Ahmadi. What you suggest me ? should i kill him , or exile him from my room (that's only what i can do to him) ?

there is a difference between self exile and exile .

BUT, no wounder. many of Pakistanis do many of tricks to get settle in Europe. One of my friend from college, traveled Belgium on documents. dustbin his documents at the airport. and surrendered to the police. told them a story that his father is a tribal man against of Taliban. so Taliban attacked my home killed my father, mother and 2 brothers. and i somehow escaped the place and managed to travel here without documents.

they provided him a lawyer, he fight a case for asylum. at the end "won" the case, as the authorities were not able to visit address he provided for conformation (tribal area) .

and you will be glad to know that he now a days maybe using some sort of forum with an Belgium flag with a username "Pakistani exile" ....


No wounder. Mr.Self exiled ... nice to talk you. good luck for your other fellows following you to UK (on self exiling process, As we know) ..



it should be ; "are you a Muslim or non-Muslim" ... think before you type brother. your words can harm someone's sentiments.



Oh you are stuck on the word Exile? Well I don't know what difference remains
between self exile and other exile if education institutions of repute suddenly reject your admissions ?
While your family members are beaten up for trying to defend your mosque or killed for simply being Ahmadi.

No if the Hindus and Christians were also entirely happy in Pakistan, then Hindus would not be migrating to India,
then Christian homes and churches would not have been torched by mobs of extremists.
If they were truly happy with minorities then Rimsha Masih would be free and Taseer would not be dead for
trying to stick up for a poor Christian woman. What about Shahbaz Bhatti? Whatever happened to him? A conspiracy by qadianis to defame Pakistan, right?

People recorded on videos would not be proclaiming they have committed a century of killing minorities etc.
Do you seriously want me to go on or are you one of those Pakistanis who believe that minorities are all part of
a big conspiracy to malign Pakistan? I don't understand what you want me to answer?
That you personally treat Ahmadis well? Good for you, do you want a medal?

Stop being retarded. Declare yourself Ahmadi to your parents and friends for a day. Then come back to me with your retarded 10 year old style snarky remarks about the word exile.
 
India Is A Large Hearted and Compassionate Country Always Helping Afghans While They Are At It Why Don't They Take All The Afghan Refugees From Pakistan As Well :D:D:D
we do have a few, and they're very visible in pockets of the capital but obviously not as many here as in Pakistan because given how it is very difficult for even legit citizens of our countries to make a trip across the border with all the regulations, it must be close to impossible for refugees of meagre or no means/money/paperwork/contacts to make the move.

Given an open choice I think many would prefer India over Pakistan for obvious reasons, but given the threat of jihadist infiltration within 'refugees' these days, keep them, it is your Karma. :angel:
 

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