Afghanistan's notorious NDS ordered assassination of SP Tahir Dawar: sources

[fitpOsitive]

Thats all drama by USA, to deviate attention from Sami ul haqs murder. I think that All links to NDS and RAW are false.

 

[Path-Finder]

Bingo. And we have done everything to destroy our friends in Afghanistan since 9/11.

Puppet government is just Northern Alliance dressed as "Afghan" government. 24 hours after Kabul fell in 2001 to NA with help of Americans who Pakistan provided logistic, airports, seaports and air corridors I saw a interview of Abdullah Abdullah after he had come out of his cave in the Panjshir valley where NA had been hiding since Taliban had taken over Afghanistan. What was his first words in his sentence? "Pakistan, Pakistan, Pakistan" and I though "opps" this is trouble. Next day he was announced as the new Afghan governments foreign minister. And rest is history.

The way I see it now! If its afghani and it speaks farsi. Well its not friendly. To put it mildly.

 

[ghazi52]

Seal the border on fast track. Pak army is doing good job.

 

[SQ8]

Yes that is because both the Baloch and Muhajirs did not have the numbers or influence. Pashtuns are what 30% of Pakistan's population?

Hardly, infact the influence for both has increased; one controls a large portion of business in the country. The simple rule is that education and exposure have changed the requirements and aspirations of people. Something that was happening all too well in Kashmir too until chesty decided to go and screw it up.
In every insurgency, rebellion there is an underlying insecurity about the future and rights.

Bingo. And we have done everything to destroy our friends in Afghanistan since 9/11.

Puppet government is just Northern Alliance dressed as "Afghan" government. 24 hours after Kabul fell in 2001 to NA with help of Americans who Pakistan provided logistic, airports, seaports and air corridors I saw a interview of Abdullah Abdullah after he had come out of his cave in the Panjshir valley where NA had been hiding since Taliban had taken over Afghanistan. What was his first words in his sentence? "Pakistan, Pakistan, Pakistan" and I though "opps" this is trouble. Next day he was announced as the new Afghan governments foreign minister. And rest is history.

These days the state has decided to wear bangles and watch their 90’s and early 2000s based strategy and warfare concepts come crumbling down.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

The way I see it now! If its afghani and it speaks farsi. Well its not friendly. To put it mildly.

You must understand that in fact since 9/11 the Northern Alliance [which is mostly centred around Panjsheri Tajiks] has been the 'Afghan' government installe by USA with help of Musharaf. Our allies the Taliban [mostly centred around Pashtuns] have been systemically decimated but they are still fighting as you know against the NA going as the NUG. The new NA government installed by USA has NA DNA and with massive US dollars pouring in every year it has via patronage politics co-opted support from Pashtuns, Uzbeks, Hazaras, Turkmens etc. For instance the President is always a sellout Pashtun. What keeps all these natural foes together under a Panjsiri Tajik frame is US military and US dollars. The hardcore Taliban as you know continue to fight and despite massive US military force, NATO, US dollars they remain control over large swthes of Pashtun heartlands. That I think should tell you not all Afghans support the pro Indian Kabul regime. Hatred for Pakistan is used to bind all these groups together to offset the bitter hatred and history they have between each other.

If US pulls out watch how fast this rotten bunch sat in Kabul come crashing down. This is something USA has now figured out. That huge chunk of Pashtun hearlands are barely represented by the so called NUG in Kabul leave alone the ANA. Which is why US is now opening up to talk with Taliban. Something Imran Khan has been saying for more then a decade for which he earned the moniker "Taliban Khan". Maybe we ought to now call the US president "Taliban Trump".

 

[YeBeWarned]

No offense to the Low ranking officers who put their lives in danger , they are been led by Pu$$y Generals .

 

[Sully3]

Yes that's why I said borderline separatist. Any violence against PTM members at this stage would get advertised as anti Pashtun crackdown and you'd be seeing a repeat of what happened in Karachi and Baluchistan, and this will turn into a full blown separatist insurgency.

first yout stop the money pouring into these anti state individuals through NGO's

then you get twitter and FB to shut their accounts down.

eventually the rat will know either shut up or try to get an asylum in another country.

Anti nationals think the world respects them, the truth is the world looks down on any one who works against their own country, they use these people and then throw them away.

 

[Path-Finder]

You must understand that in fact since 9/11 the Northern Alliance [which is mostly centred around Panjsheri Tajiks] has been the 'Afghan' government installe by USA with help of Musharaf. Our allies the Taliban [mostly centred around Pashtuns] have been systemically decimated but they are still fighting as you know against the NA going as the NUG. The new NA government installed by USA has NA DNA and with massive US dollars pouring in every year it has via patronage politics co-opted support from Pashtuns, Uzbeks, Hazaras, Turkmens etc. For instance the President is always a sellout Pashtun. What keeps all these natural foes together under a Panjsiri Tajik frame is US military and US dollars. The hardcore Taliban as you know continue to fight and despite massive US military force, NATO, US dollars they remain control over large swthes of Pashtun heartlands. That I think should tell you not all Afghans support the pro Indian Kabul regime. Hatred for Pakistan is used to bind all these groups together to offset the bitter hatred and history they have between each other.

If US pulls out watch how fast this rotten bunch sat in Kabul come crashing down. This is something USA has now figured out. That huge chunk of Pashtun hearlands are barely represented by the so called NUG in Kabul leave alone the ANA. Which is why US is now opening up to talk with Taliban. Something Imran Khan has been saying for more then a decade for which he earned the moniker "Taliban Khan". Maybe we ought to now call the US president "Taliban Trump".

Another Thing I will add is all these northerners tajik, panjsheri etc are former pinkies(commies). Because many faces we see in the gov were with the soviets and they used to peddle in marxism but with the advent of sole capitalist power. These pink leopards changed their commie spots and became the darlings of the US and mostly its $.

Even some of the former "moral equivalent to the founding fathers" have joined the kabul bandwagon.

The way I see it there really isn't much difference between the afghani elite and Pakistani elite. They are corrupt morally and financially. We need a gauge to measure their greed and lust.

I had a debate in 2001 when the war in afghanistan began and I remember saying to one of my friends about the war. I never thought that 17 years later the tables would turn in such a manner where all parties would be on a table. Even the chaos of afghanistan seems to have a certain order.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Another Thing I will add is all these northerners tajik, panjsheri etc are former pinkies(commies). Because many faces we see in the gov were with the soviets and they used to peddle in marxism but with the advent of sole capitalist power. These pink leopards changed their commie spots and became the darlings of the US and mostly its $.

The Uzbek warlord responsible for mass murder of Pashtuns in Northern Afghanistan after fall of Taliban is now part of NUG. You are absolutely right. Many of these Panjshiri's are former commie ba*stards who licked the red flag of Soviet Union today form part of the NUG. With massive injection of billions in US dollars Afghanistan has been turned into a prostitute state. Don't forget Afghanistan's population is six times less then Pakistan's and is only slightly more then K-Pk province. With $10s of billions injected by US it has created a patronage network where it pays to suck up to NUG in Kabul.

Even some of the former "moral equivalent to the founding fathers" have joined the kabul bandwagon.

Read above. It's US dollars given to NUG which then of course distributes it according those who will align with it and sing it's tune.

The way I see it there really isn't much difference between the afghani elite and Pakistani elite. They are corrupt morally and financially. We need a gauge to measure their greed and lust.

They are worse. Our are not warlords in the medieval sense. They have warlords nurtured in the incessant war of the last four decades. I know your going to think I am going to sing songs about British but we in Pakistan would have looked like Afghanistan was it not for the 98 years rule under the Raj which left legacy of some sanity.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Even Russia is now backing the Taliban meaning the great game is now entering its crucial stage where little mistakes would cost us a lot. Why? Because Taliban does not have sympathies in Central Asia or in the world whereas ISIS is a global phenomena now being implanted in Afghanistan by the USA. Creating ethnic/religious terrorist groups is one of the way US creates chaos in countries it deems as enemies, they have done it before and will continue to do so.

The goals are simple, this justifies US staying in Afghanistan permanently thus having an outpost to contain China and its access to the Arabian sea through Gwadar, Russia is reviving and still has massive influence in mineral rich Central Asian countries, Pakistan has nukes that US's overlords want to get rid of and finally Iran can be encircled in case of war.

 

[Kabira]

Yes that's why I said borderline separatist. Any violence against PTM members at this stage would get advertised as anti Pashtun crackdown and you'd be seeing a repeat of what happened in Karachi and Baluchistan, and this will turn into a full blown separatist insurgency.

lol ruling party has main support from pashtuns. PTM are bacha khanis and TTP crimnals of former lawlessness FATA. Their business of being crimnals have come to end after merger and army operations.

Dawar was pashtun. Its clear afghanis are on purpose targetting Pakistani pashtuns working for government, this is 2nd high profile killing in a month. 9 afghanis were arrested in Islamabad plotting against Imran Khan.

 

[Kabira]

The way I see it now! If its afghani and it speaks farsi. Well its not friendly. To put it mildly.

This isn't like that at all. Yes taliban was not hostile to Pakistan for obvious reasons but from 47 till Soviet occupation, afghani ruling pashtuns has been hostile to Pakistan. Farsis didn't even come to picture before US invasion.

One example is even today afghani ambassador to Pakistan who is pashtun is playing dirty game.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1063061647080783872

 

[War Thunder]

Its the Indian consulate not Saudi!

yes that means its even more uncivilized, and more filled up with filthy scum, where Afghan women have been raped by higher officials.
Check Afghan news sources for that...

 

[Verve]

Bla bla bla bla just blaming and blaming and blaming, can someone tell that how he was kidnapped from ICT which is most secured and peaceful place in Pakistan, also don't forget Moulana Sami ul Haq was also assassinated there

Can you read Urdu? How is in the tweets.

Mutual friends of PTM leadership and SSP took him for a day out to tribal area. That's where he was drugged and handed over to NDS. He was never kidnapped from ICT.