Afghanistan rejects its soil was used to attack Bacha Khan University

[Sankpal]

I feeling very sad for innocent students and families..
Most sad part is still Pakistani doesn't know who is actual enemy for Pakistan...
Still the don't know what action needs to be taken?

Pakistan made their enemy when they started supporting terrorist groups in 1980. after Soviet Union fall they thought that can use them against India in Kashmir.

They supporting terrorism from 30 years included 1990 in India and paying more for that got

They want Kashmir and for that only are happy to destroy Pakistani futures and lives.

Even China and Indian fought war and having problems but why both country are more peaceful. I don't think here people will understand.

I have only one word to say now.... If you still will support Terrorist attack in India and will provide support than you have to pay more than India.

BEAUSE " AGAR SNAKE AUR USKE BACHHON KO DUDH PILAOGE TO WO APKO TO KAATEGA HI."

lAST: Terrorist terrorist hota hai Chahe wo India me Kashmir me kisi ka khoon bahaye yaa pakistan me kisi bachhe ka. Na koi Good Terrorist hota hai jo apko kahne per enemy ko kaate. aur naa hi BAD jo apko

 

[RescueRanger]

Do laugh!

What is guj guj? Also you know what bleeding heart mean right? So no, my heart is not bleeding for anyone here. Just stating the obvious.

Jug Jug as in Jug Jug Jiyo, it's an old Punjabi expression. Never mind, lets see how all this plays out, we are all but observers sitting on the bleachers, chanting and cheering whilst scoffing down large heaps of hypocritical popcorn.

 

[notorious_eagle]

They don't become well established facts until and unless you are able to specifically link the attackers to Afghan soil. Since Afghanistan is rejecting the claim, you have to provide them with actionable proof. Maybe they are just learning the game from Pakistan who follows the same modus operandi when the shoe is on the other foot.

Link? Are you stupid or pretending to be one?

The leaders of TTP residing in Afghanistan have openly admitted that they are the ones who carried out these attacks and they will further attack more schools. Do you need more proof than that, when the individual is actually confessing to his crime. Afghanistan can reject all it wants, but the TTP has admitted they are behind these attacks. The Americans and Afghans have admitted that TTP is operating inside Kunar and Noristan and they don't have the resources to go after them. The proof and the evidence is right there, its just your Indian mindset that is not letting you see things clearly. I can't help you with that.

Anwyays, whatever. You can gloat and laugh all you want over the death of innocent students, we couldn't care less what the Indians think or say. The Afghans made their statement, now we will make ours .

 

[Bratva]

They don't become well established facts until and unless you are able to specifically link the attackers to Afghan soil. Since Afghanistan is rejecting the claim, you have to provide them with actionable proof. Maybe they are just learning the game from Pakistan who follows the same modus operandi when the shoe is on the other foot.

Are you daft ? Have you been following amerian drone strikes on TTP in afghan istan ?


TTP commander Sajna reported killed in US drone strike in Afghanistan
By Ihsanullah Tipu Mehsud


TTP former spokesman reportedly killed in US drone strike
At least 12 other militants were killed and 20 had been wounded in the drone strike

Taliban's former spokesman reportedly killed in US drone strike


US drone strike kills 15 TTP militants in Afghanistan
REUTERS — PUBLISHED SEP 11, 2015 11:03PM

FORMER TTP COMMANDER’S SON KILLED IN US DRONE STRIKE
Staff Reporter
Monday, January 11, 2016 -

That only shows how incompetent is the Pakistani forces in dealing with the home grown terrorism inside Pakistan, despite PA's total media blackout on 'ground realities' during zarb-e-arb operation; their public has gone outragous upon this single terror. Afghanistan has nothing to do with any of this there are moles in Pakistan's civilian and military leadership who assist these people on bases of particular joint interests.

Pakistan should help elaminate Afghan taliban within it's soil or make them surrender via peace process. Pakistanis had high hopes of the zarb-e-azb operation; such operations has taken place in Afghanistan like 10s of times which had only temporary effect but not a long term since Taliban are not a conventional force they chose to hide or prefere no fire exchange with any force during any large operation but the next dawn things turns the same when forces leave the areas terming them 'cleaned'.

Recent drone strikes against TTP is enough proof to bust your basless rant against Pakistan Army. Need I remind you who was caught travelling with TTP No.2 couple years back? Was It Pakistani Army mole or was it Afghani NDS Mole working on the behest of Indians ?

 

[jaunty]

Are you daft ? Have you been following amerian drone strikes on TTP in afghan istan ?

I am not daft, but it seems you are. None of those links prove that Afghan soil was used for this particular attack.

 

[Bratva]

I am not daft, but it seems you are. None of those links prove that Afghan soil was used for this particular attack.

Digital trace proved handlers were in Afghanistan. Just like to Digital trace of Pathankot led back to Pakistan. So if you gonna deny this digital trace, you may as well deny phatankot evidence and accept India orchestrated a false flag

 

[jaunty]

Link? Are you stupid or pretending to be one?


The leaders of TTP residing in Afghanistan have openly admitted that they are the ones who carried out these attacks and they will further attack more schools. Do you need more proof than that, when the individual is actually confessing to his crime. Afghanistan can reject all it wants, but the TTP has admitted they are behind these attacks. The Americans and Afghans have admitted that TTP is operating inside Kunar and Noristan and they don't have the resources to go after them. The proof and the evidence is right there, its just your Indian mindset that is not letting you see things clearly. I can't help you with that.

Anwyays, whatever. You can gloat and laugh all you want over the death of innocent students, we couldn't care less what the Indians think or say. The Afghans made their statement, now we will make ours .

I am neither gloating nor laughing, that is a Pakistani trait, we condemn all terrorist attacks unequivocally.

Your point is based on the assumption that the attack was planned in Afghan soil. The Afghan govt is denying it. So it is your words vs their.

Digital trace proved handlers were in Afghanistan. Just like to Digital trace of Pathankot led back to Pakistan. So if you gonna deny this digital trace, you may as well deny phatankot evidence and accept India orchestrated a false flag

Provide those digital trace to Afghanistan and try to convince them. So far it seems they are not convinced. That's all I am saying.

 

[Bratva]

I am neither gloating nor laughing, that is a Pakistani trait, we condemn all terrorist attacks unequivocally.

Your point is based on the assumption that the attack was planned in Afghan soil. The Afghan govt is denying it. So it is your word vs their.



Provide those digital trace to Afghanistan and try convince them. So far it seems they are not convinced. That's all I am saying.

They denied supporting and abetting TTP untile one of their own caught with TTP second in command. What is the worth of their denial when they are in bed with TTP ?

 

[jaunty]

They denied supporting and abetting TTP untile one of their own caught with TTP second in command. What is the worth of their denial when they are in bed with TTP ?

If you have such concrete proof maybe you should go to international forums. Just make sure, it does not turn out like the farce you did about Indian involvement in Pakistan.

 

[Bratva]

If you have such concrete proof maybe you should go to international forums. Just make sure, it does not turn out like the farce you did about Indian involvement in Pakistan.

What farce ? Did Pakistan backed away from sharing proof with UNO ? Isnt India hosting Baloch terrorists on Indian soil ?

Now who is daft here. How going to international forums will help us?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Pakistan should stop blaming its neighbors without any proof and clean up its own mess. These acts of terrorism are most likely done by Pakistani "non state actors" anyway.

Yeah, a little hard to argue that when the NDS was caught red-handed engaging with the TTP second in command by the US:

The capture of Latif Mehsud proved to be an embarrassment for the Afghans, and a vindication for Pakistan, which has long complained that the Pakistani Taliban – called the Tehrik -e-Taliban (TTP) – receives support from Karzai’s government. Afghanistan and the United States, for their part, have laid the blame for a 12-year insurgency at Pakistan’s feet, saying its intelligence agencies support the most effective insurgency group, led by Jalaluddin Haqqani.

Latif Mehsud was a close confidant of Qari Hussain, who was one of the candidates to take over the TTP after the killing of its leader, Baitullah Mehsud, by an American drone strike in 2009. When Hussain was similarly eliminated in October 2010, Latif took over as the TTP’s second in command, operating under its leader, Hakimullah Mehsud. (The two Mehsuds are from the same tribe, but not closely related.) Latif’s capture provided the intelligence the U.S. needed to kill Hakimullah, in a drone strike just a few weeks later.

Latif spent much of his time since 2010 between Afghanistan and Pakistan, and it is believed he was a conduit for funding to the TTP. It now appears some of that funding might have come from Afghanistan’s intelligence agency, the National Directorate of Security (NDS).

On October 5, Latif was being taken by Afghan officials to a meeting with agents from the NDS when American special forces stopped his convoy, taking Latif to Bagram, where the U.S. runs a prison of its own.

Afghanistan-Pakistan: The Covert War | The Diplomat

Afghan journalists in the border provinces say Pakistani militants have been given free reign.

“Afghan intelligence and other security officials do not touch Pakistani militants even if they pass security check posts,” an Afghan journalist told The Express Tribune by phone on the condition of anonymity.

The role of Afghanistan’s intelligence agency has been called into question with the National Directorate of Security (NDS) recently confirming that it was a US drone strike that killed several Pakistani militants affiliated with Da’esh in Nangarhar. And on Friday, a former NDS chief Asadullah Khalid tweeted a link to Mansoor’s video on the Badhaber attack, describing the slain attackers as ‘martyrs’. Interestingly, he later disowned and deleted the tweet from his handle saying his account had been hacked.

The link between the TTP and NDS is not new, with the relationship being exposed when spokesperson for former Afghan president Hamid Karzai described senior TTP leader Latif Mehsud as a ‘major asset’ of the Afghan government. The statement had been issued after American forces in October 2013 recovered Mehsud from a car full of Afghan intelligence agents. An angry Karzai had condemned the arrest as “a challenge to Afghan sovereignty”.

TTP bases in Afghanistan: Evidence mounts on Afghan origin of Badhaber attack - The Express Tribune​

 

[Adecypher]

Your point is based on the assumption that the attack was planned in Afghan soil. The Afghan govt is denying it. So it is your words vs their.

In a similar fashion Pakistan have categorically denied any involvement in terrorist attacks in India...

 

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Afghanistan have a large territory out of government's control. Therefore, we can assume that the Afghan government was not involved in this attack but it's soil can easily be used to attack us which is what probably happened.

 

[Bratva]

This attitude of selective amnesia adopted by Pakistani nation doesn't benefit them a bit.

They remember TTP high command resides in Afghanistan, but they conveniently overlook that Afghan Taliban high command resides in their country..and carry out attacks into Afghanistan, day in and day out.

Regardless of Pakistani threats, Afghans are not gonna do zilch about TTP, as long AT continues to be a Pakistani strategic asset..to be used as bargaining chips in post American Afghanistan.

After all how many ATs/Haqqanis etc were killed/arrested in their operations?

How come Pakistan gets the blame when there is AT out there in Qatar and sending delegates to China, Iran, Turkey,Bahrain,Saudia and UAE?

Ignorant minds will always overlook this fact that america is tolerating and directly negotiating AT/Haqqani in Qatar and as well as in Murree peace process.

 

[jaunty]

In a similar fashion Pakistan have categorically denied any involvement in terrorist attacks in India...

Yes they are learning from you.