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Adi Godrej first to speak out: Beef ban, prohibition are hurting economy
Clever democratic leaders make sure disadvantages are minimised, advantages maximised, says Godrej chairman.
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Adi Godrej: Vedic Indians were beef-eaters.
INDUSTRIALIST Adi Godrej, chairman of the $4.1-billion Godrej Group, with diverse interests in fast moving consumer goods, real estate, consumer durables and furniture, Wednesday said the beef ban and liquor prohibition in certain states were hurting the economy.

Godrej is the first leading voice from India Inc to speak out against beef ban and prohibition and point out its adverse impact on the economy. His warning comes at a time when the government at the Centre is set to complete two years in office, and several states seek to strictly implement beef ban and push for prohibition close to assembly elections.

Godrej told The Indian Express that government polices over the last two years have, by and large, been good. “Ease of doing business really helps. We have also benefited from low commodity prices,” he said. He believes “India will remain the fastest growing economy in the world… India will gradually emerge as a strong developed country”.

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“Some of the things are affecting growth, for example, the ban on beef in some states. (This) is clearly affecting agriculture, affecting rural growth. Because what do you do with all these extra cows? It is also affecting business, because this was a good source of income for many farmers. So that’s a negative,” he said.

In Vedic times, he said, Indians were beef-eaters. “There is nothing against beef in our religion. It is a practice that evolved over years of drought, and the elders said don’t slaughter cows, preserve them for milk for children. That has turned into a religious belief. This is ridiculous. Vedic Indians were beef-eaters,” Godrej said.

The Bombay High Court, he said, has given a good judgement. “Now the Bombay High Court has said that alright you can stop the slaughter of cows, but you can’t stop consumption. It’s silly to say that possession of meat, which is eaten all over the world, is a crime,” he said.

“There are certain things. Like, prohibition. In order to win elections and get women’s votes, some states are doing that. Bihar has brought prohibition. Kerala has brought prohibition. Prohibition is bad for the economy. It’s bad for social structure, for drinking doesn’t reduce. It gives rise to bad liquor, and then mafia. All over the world it has been unsuccessful. In America, it has been unsuccessful. In India, we tried prohibition, but we were unsuccessful.”

“All these negative directions for political gains can affect the economy. These (beef ban and prohibition) are the two main issues I see,” Godrej said. Asked if this distracts the government from the development agenda, he said, “These are bound to happen. We are a democracy. They have to win elections, they have to portray themselves in a certain way.”

But he said this was normal in a democratic set-up. “This is part of democracy. In democracy, you must understand, there are lots of advantages over dictatorship or autocracy,” Godrej said. “But clever democratic leaders will make sure that the disadvantages are minimised and the advantages are maximised.”

WATCH INDIAN EXPRESS VIDEOS HERE


http://indianexpress.com/article/in...-ban-prohibition-are-hurting-economy-2796052/
 
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He spoke out because Godrej supplies Beef patties and frozen meat as part of it's business.Not out of concern for someones right to eat,
He being a Parsi should know better.Will he be willing to part with their towers of silence or their fire temples?

What a lie that in Vedic Times Hindus ate beef.
Hindus revere the cow,this is the same guy(Adi Godrej) who gave speech in IIT about Hindu rate of Growth being at 3% when he was utterly bashed by S.Gurumurthy.

What does he mean our religion? Parsis worship Ahura Mazda and fire.Where is the similarity with Sanatana Dharma?
 
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Its clear the OP has a huge anti-BJP anti-Modi axe to grind wherever he can but in this instance:

Congress was the preceptor of Beef ban laws....and now just recently jungle raj sickular bihar has banned liquor.

Plus like has been mentioned this guy isn't exactly a neutral unbiased person.
 
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Its clear the OP has a huge anti-BJP anti-Modi axe to grind wherever he can but in this instance:

Congress was the preceptor of Beef ban laws....and now just recently jungle raj sickular bihar has banned liquor.

Plus like has been mentioned this guy isn't exactly a neutral unbiased person.
How does that matter? If you have something to prove that those being posted are wrong, then you are welcome to present your sources and prove it wrong. My "bias" should not be your concern and you must least bothered about it...
 
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How does that matter? If you have something to prove that those being posted are wrong, then you are welcome to present your sources and prove it wrong. My "bias" should not be your concern and you must least bothered about it...

His personal specific opinions are biased, like anyone else. Every legal and social matter has effects way beyond their economic footprint, so coming at them from purely an economic angle when he himself has vested interests in that economic activity is going to be biased.

His overall sentiment is:

Godrej told The Indian Express that government polices over the last two years have, by and large, been good. “Ease of doing business really helps. We have also benefited from low commodity prices,” he said. He believes “India will remain the fastest growing economy in the world… India will gradually emerge as a strong developed country”.
 
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His personal specific opinions are biased, like anyone else. Every legal and social matter has effects way beyond their economic footprint, so coming at them from purely an economic angle when he himself has vested interests in that economic activity is going to be biased.

His overall sentiment is:
The same can be said about those in power. Haryana imposes ban on beef consumption in its state but gives special permit to foreigners. Can you see bias in there? Infact it is clear discrimination against its own citizens.

Source: http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...foreigners-to-consume-beef/article8203700.ece
 
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The same can be said about those in power. Haryana imposes ban on beef consumption in its state but gives special permit to foreigners. Can you see bias in there? Infact it is clear discrimination against its own citizens.

Source: http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...foreigners-to-consume-beef/article8203700.ece

Sure that is from another standpoint outside of economic one that Mr. Godrej is talking about.

I mean Malaysia also runs Casinos (I have been to them) open only for foreigners, pork consumption is blanket banned in many Muslim countries like UAE but available for expats in certain stores, same goes for alcohol....world is full of such examples in developing societies....and even some "developed" ones.

But that is another topic since we are solely talking about "hurting economy" here....question is how much is it being directly hurt, and what is the social compensation? That again is open to debate, but the point I'm making is you can't look at such things from purely economic standpoint only.
 
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Adi Godrej first to speak out: Beef ban, prohibition are hurting economy
Clever democratic leaders make sure disadvantages are minimised, advantages maximised, says Godrej chairman.
adi-godrej-759.jpg
Adi Godrej: Vedic Indians were beef-eaters.
INDUSTRIALIST Adi Godrej, chairman of the $4.1-billion Godrej Group, with diverse interests in fast moving consumer goods, real estate, consumer durables and furniture, Wednesday said the beef ban and liquor prohibition in certain states were hurting the economy.

Godrej is the first leading voice from India Inc to speak out against beef ban and prohibition and point out its adverse impact on the economy. His warning comes at a time when the government at the Centre is set to complete two years in office, and several states seek to strictly implement beef ban and push for prohibition close to assembly elections.

Godrej told The Indian Express that government polices over the last two years have, by and large, been good. “Ease of doing business really helps. We have also benefited from low commodity prices,” he said. He believes “India will remain the fastest growing economy in the world… India will gradually emerge as a strong developed country”.

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“Some of the things are affecting growth, for example, the ban on beef in some states. (This) is clearly affecting agriculture, affecting rural growth. Because what do you do with all these extra cows? It is also affecting business, because this was a good source of income for many farmers. So that’s a negative,” he said.

In Vedic times, he said, Indians were beef-eaters. “There is nothing against beef in our religion. It is a practice that evolved over years of drought, and the elders said don’t slaughter cows, preserve them for milk for children. That has turned into a religious belief. This is ridiculous. Vedic Indians were beef-eaters,” Godrej said.

The Bombay High Court, he said, has given a good judgement. “Now the Bombay High Court has said that alright you can stop the slaughter of cows, but you can’t stop consumption. It’s silly to say that possession of meat, which is eaten all over the world, is a crime,” he said.

“There are certain things. Like, prohibition. In order to win elections and get women’s votes, some states are doing that. Bihar has brought prohibition. Kerala has brought prohibition. Prohibition is bad for the economy. It’s bad for social structure, for drinking doesn’t reduce. It gives rise to bad liquor, and then mafia. All over the world it has been unsuccessful. In America, it has been unsuccessful. In India, we tried prohibition, but we were unsuccessful.”

“All these negative directions for political gains can affect the economy. These (beef ban and prohibition) are the two main issues I see,” Godrej said. Asked if this distracts the government from the development agenda, he said, “These are bound to happen. We are a democracy. They have to win elections, they have to portray themselves in a certain way.”

But he said this was normal in a democratic set-up. “This is part of democracy. In democracy, you must understand, there are lots of advantages over dictatorship or autocracy,” Godrej said. “But clever democratic leaders will make sure that the disadvantages are minimised and the advantages are maximised.”

WATCH INDIAN EXPRESS VIDEOS HERE


http://indianexpress.com/article/in...-ban-prohibition-are-hurting-economy-2796052/
He is speaking truth. Beef ban is primitive law like "sati" , "caste system", "polygamy" and "prohibition of family planning" .
All of which must be eliminated ASAP if we want to develop seriously
 
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apart from the dangers of upper layer erosion of soil due to overgrazing, what are the other repercussions of beef ban ?
1. ppl who want beef (cheap meat), can say it goodbye. the person could save more on beef, but has to settle for costlier chicken or even costlier mutton/fish. obviously, those who dont eat meat (particularly beef) will be untouched by the effects of ban.
2. traffic jams.
although many gaushalas are opening to take care of the stray cows, however, for a cash strapped country like india, where humans find it difficult to get a roof, sufficient no. of gaushalas/cow care institutions will be hopelessly inadequate.

other than this, i doubt there will be any other repercussions.
 
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Given how there is relatively only a very small percentage of the population that consume it, I don't see how the beef ban hurts the economy. Use the cows for dairy.

That said, I don't like the idea of banning anything
 
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apart from the dangers of upper layer erosion of soil due to overgrazing, what are the other repercussions of beef ban ?
1. ppl who want beef (cheap meat), can say it goodbye. the person could save more on beef, but has to settle for costlier chicken or even costlier mutton/fish. obviously, those who dont eat meat (particularly beef) will be untouched by the effects of ban.
2. traffic jams.
although many gaushalas are opening to take care of the stray cows, however, for a cash strapped country like india, where humans find it difficult to get a roof, sufficient no. of gaushalas/cow care institutions will be hopelessly inadequate.

other than this, i doubt there will be any other repercussions.

There are thousands of reasons to not ban beef, but the most important reason is that it is ethically, democratically and logically wrong to ban a particular food for all just because one community, even if it is the majority, don't consume that food.

It is same like any non-Hindu majority country banning Hindu practices in their country because it is contrary to their belief system.
 
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Taking Mr Adi's logic, why don't Sickulars ask a certain section of society, who are voracious meat eaters than Hindus to start consuming Pork as well?

That would be great for the economy with pork farming really taking off in the country..
 
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There are thousands of reasons to not ban beef, but the most important reason is that it is ethically, democratically and logically wrong to ban a particular food for all just because one community, even if it is the majority, don't consume that food.

It is same like any non-Hindu majority country banning Hindu practices in their country because it is contrary to their belief system.
i m against beef ban too. seems majority appeasing tactics."ban on food items" must be banned.
 
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There should be no ban on food items.. Beef industry should have been regulated.. I think this ban will be lifted in future
 
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There are thousands of reasons to not ban beef, but the most important reason is that it is ethically, democratically and logically wrong to ban a particular food for all just because one community, even if it is the majority, don't consume that food.

It is same like any non-Hindu majority country banning Hindu practices in their country because it is contrary to their belief system.
You cannot expect a majority to look after minority, when the minority won't care to respect the majority community sentiments and religious beliefs.Simply put, why should we care about the minority woes or its sentiments,when it won't care about ours?
Country runs on the basis of who gets more votes that is majority rule( democracy) Country doesn't run on the whims and fancies of a minority.
When in Rome do like a Roman does,When in Hindustan, do like a Hindu does.
Beef consumption is neither necessary nor required as per the beliefs of Minorities, while for a Hindu it is required he respect the cows and do everything in their power to protect them from being Massacred for meat.

He is speaking truth. Beef ban is primitive law like "sati" , "caste system", "polygamy" and "prohibition of family planning" .
All of which must be eliminated ASAP if we want to develop seriously
Only Hindus practice Monogamy ,while Muslim law endorses Polygamy, prohibits family planning.So they are primitives according to you.
We should first start with the Muslim law asking them to get rid of these things and agree on a common civil code ,One rule for everyone in the country.

The very same Muslims follow Common laws in other Western nations,but when they come here in India,they behave as though they are aloof and have separate laws,it is because they were pampered all these years by Hindus and Congress they grew the horns on their head to ask for special laws.
Back in Western countries, they will be told to pack up and move to another country which has sharia law.
 
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