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KABUL, Afghanistan — After nearly a year of relying on helicopters for the bulk of its air cargo transportation, the Afghan Air Force will receive its first C-130H Hercules transports early next month.

The U.S. Air Force is slated to give the Afghans four C-130H aircraft. Two of those aircraft will be delivered on Oct. 10, the NATO Air Training Command-Afghanistan announced on Wednesday.

The U.S. military scrapped the Afghan air force’s entire fleet of 16 Italian-made C-27A cargo planes last year after maintenance problems grounded the aircraft.

The U.S. spent nearly $600 million on the C-27A program, but the contractor was unable to maintain the planes. Many of the Italian-made twin-turboprop C-27As now sit unused at the airfield in Kabul. The C-27As replaced a fleet of Antonov An-32 tactical transports the Afghans had successfully used.

The U.S. has promised to deliver at least four of the larger, four-engine C-130 aircraft. The next two aircraft are scheduled to be delivered in 2014, according to NATO officials.

In the meantime, the nascent Afghan Air Force has been using Russian-made Mil Mi-17 helicopters to haul most of the supplies, soldiers and wounded to and from the bases scattered around the country. Smaller, fixed-wing Cessna C-208 turboprop aircraft also chip in by flying to more established airfields.

Due to Afghanistan’s mountainous terrain and poor road networks, a strong fleet of tactical transports — both helicopters and fixed-wing aircraft — is seen as crucial in keeping isolated military outposts supplied without the danger of Taliban ambushes.

Afghan Ministry of Defense spokesman Gen. Zahir Azimi said C-130s have played a vital role in supplying NATO forces in Afghanistan, and the Afghans are looking forward to fielding aircraft of their own.

“It is very important for the Afghan national security forces to have C-130s because right now the American forces are using the C-130s so effectively,” he said.

Aircrews for the C-130s have been training in the U.S. since this spring. But the complexity of the new transport and the large crew size of five people per aircraft needed mean it will take about two and a half years before Afghans fly the C-130s completely on their own, NATO officials said.

NATO training officials say C-130 parts will be easy to find because the aircraft is used around the world, but critics have pointed out that the C-130s are more complex, and therefore more expensive to maintain and operate than the C-27As — which proved more than a match for the Afghans. For example, a C-130 costs four times more to operate than an AN-32, according to Afghan military officials.

As international air forces have reduced their support for Afghan army and police units, the Afghan Air Force has been forced to scramble to keep up. The air force is on track to fly more than double the number of casualty evacuation missions this year compared to 2012, with 933 flown as of mid-September.

International advisers remain heavily involved in the Afghan Air Force. All-Afghan aircrews are flying more and more operational missions, but the whole force is not expected to be fully independent for several years after NATO combat troops depart at the end of 2014.

Three brand-new Mi-17 helicopters were delivered to Kabul earlier in September, and 20 propeller-driven A-29 Super Tucanos are supposed to be delivered by the U.S. Air Force later in 2014, and become fully operational by 2018. The Tucanos will be used as ground attack aircraft to replace the small and aging fleet of Mi-35 helicopter gunships currently used by the Afghans.

Zubair Babakarkhail contributed to this report.

By Josh Smith
Stars and Stripes
 
I don't know why AAF got C-27A in the first place.it is too costly for a cargo plane in its class.though it is an excellent aircraft.hope,AAF had 16 C-27A.hope they'll soon get the replacement cargo aircraft soon. :tup: by the way,AAF may take a look at C-295,its a capable aircraft of this role..
 
I don't know why AAF got C-27A in the first place.it is too costly for a cargo plane in its class.though it is an excellent aircraft.hope,AAF had 16 C-27A.hope they'll soon get the replacement cargo aircraft soon. :tup: by the way,AAF may take a look at C-295,its a capable aircraft of this role..

C-295 is a decent cargo plane, but it is the US which are giving us those C-130H, so the AAF doesn't have much to say, when it comes to choosing aircrafts at the moment.
 
I don't know why AAF got C-27A in the first place.it is too costly for a cargo plane in its class.though it is an excellent aircraft.hope,AAF had 16 C-27A.hope they'll soon get the replacement cargo aircraft soon. :tup: by the way,AAF may take a look at C-295,its a capable aircraft of this role..

it is a better choice for Afghanistan if they choose russian plane, it is less coster than american one
 
I don't know why AAF got C-27A in the first place.it is too costly for a cargo plane in its class.though it is an excellent aircraft.hope,AAF had 16 C-27A.hope they'll soon get the replacement cargo aircraft soon. :tup: by the way,AAF may take a look at C-295,its a capable aircraft of this role..

I do not agree. While the C-130s are pretty good aircraft; they are certainly some down-sides to owning and operating them by the AAF. The C-27 experience is a clear pointer to that.
Actually, the AAF will be better of owning and operating An-32s. THe US can fund it, and Russia can facilitate their maintenance. Even India can provide some technical help. Far more practical and economic.
Ditto for the rotorcraft fleet, The fleet of Mi-8/17s should be increased, and then the AAF will get viable for autonomous operation going into the future.
 
I do not agree. While the C-130s are pretty good aircraft; they are certainly some down-sides to owning and operating them by the AAF. The C-27 experience is a clear pointer to that.
Actually, the AAF will be better of owning and operating An-32s. THe US can fund it, and Russia can facilitate their maintenance. Even India can provide some technical help. Far more practical and economic.
Ditto for the rotorcraft fleet, The fleet of Mi-8/17s should be increased, and then the AAF will get viable for autonomous operation going into the future.

imagine to stand as an American president, and say that you want to buy Russian planes for AAF using american money.
USA wants to keep some presence in Afghanistan, and therefore we are getting C-130H, Afghanistan already got some An-32 but have decided to phase them out of service by 2016.
The amount of Mi-17's will be increased to 75. :yay:
 
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America going to maintain some sort of presence in this country post 2014

We just need to sign the BSA, after that American military precense is secured.
The BSA is much needed for stability in Afghanistan, and is in the favor of Afghanistan
 
imagine to stand as an American president, and say that you want to buy Russian planes for AAF using american money.
USA wants to keep some presence in Afghanistan, and therefore we are getting C-130H, Afghanistan already got some An-32 but have decided to phase them out of service by 2016.
The amount of Mi-17's will be increased to 75. :yay:

Where is the problem with that? The US paid for Mi-17 Helicopters for Pakistan. The exact same thing can be done in Afghanistan; the worst days of the "Cold War" are over, Reagan is dead and gone......:D
 
Where is the problem with that? The US paid for Mi-17 Helicopters for Pakistan. The exact same thing can be done in Afghanistan; the worst days of the "Cold War" are over, Reagan is dead and gone......:D

The American economy is weak, cities are going bankrupt, and at the same moment should the president of the USA, use tax payers money to create jobs for Russians?
That's not logical, by giving Afghanistan C-130H's, he is going to create a few American jobs.
 
We just need to sign the BSA, after that American military precense is secured.
The BSA is much needed for stability in Afghanistan, and is in the favor of Afghanistan

True Afghan forces will continued to be trained n armed by america n its allies
 
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