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A tower/observation post from the Indus Valley Civilization?

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Board game from Indus valley civilization

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The piece excavated from IVC declared a game piece resembles a tower like structure, according to archaeologists, the Indus valley civilization walls will accompanied with tower structures.

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a tower from Khiva, Uzbekistan,

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the most striking similarity between this tower and the probable tower from IVC is their base is larger and narrower at the top and the design of the top also resembles the design of the tower model from IVC board game.
 
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The tower seems square not circular. Wonder if there are any other places that have square base tower.
 
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The tower seems square not circular. Wonder if there are any other places that have square base tower.

square/rectangular towers because of rectangular bastions, most bastions in ancient perids were rectangular.

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But there is noo doubt, the civilisation was over archingly of Indian Dravidian extraction, albeit not Indo European. That is why there is a presence of Pashupathi(Shiva) seals, Bharata( Man holding two tigers), Skanda ( 7 Sisters raised him and so the seals).

DNA doesnt tell linguistics. It can only be discoverd after decipherment of indus scripts.

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Nah, I think it was overwhelmingly Frankish civilization. Note the similiarity between the Eiffel tower. In addition the French bury their dead, use two legs to walk and eat bread. That looks like remarkably like French.

But then IVC could have been a Pakistanic civilization given that Sindhi ajrak is found in Mohenjo Daro. In addition is Mohenjo Daro, Harappa and Indus not in Pakistan also? Mmmmmm ...
 
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The biggest Indus site is not harappa or jodaro, its Rakhigarhi.The sites now in Pakistan seem to be outlier or minor sites
Nah. The latest research shows the typhoon gangu has blown the IVC sites from Pakistan, to India and are now settled in Bangladesh. Another typhoon cominging might swing it further into Indonesia thus validating the 'Indo' in that countries name.

Forget about Pakistan being a a outlier. We are not even in the frame anymore ...

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I said differant.
 
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IVC , latest Rakhigarhi test does not show any haplogroup of Basal R ( R1a or R1b), meaning the current populations of Eurasian , European, Northern India, Pakistani groups were unrelated to the IVC or only minimally related, I am not saying there are no remnants of the IVC haplogroups in the region, there would be, but overall its not an Indo European peoples. IVC would have had very strong connections to the Elamites, also the Sanauli Chariots found in UP had IVC script, that means the IVC group had war chariots and the Sanauli Chariots seems to point to the general areas as mentioned in the Mahabharata, meaning the IVC elite colonised the Indo Europeans in modern day Pakistan and India at some point in the distant past. The IVC seems to have an elamite extraction is said to have had a Dravidian source, but not in the sense of Dravidian(Tamil), but some sort of advanced Dravidian civilisation which had colonised the near east and Sumeria at some ancient age. Also, from the Rig Veda, Indra destroying the "forts" of Vrtra almost seems like the Indo Europeans attempting to finish off the IVC. This schism is further found in the counter narrative of Krishna defeating Indra and lifting Govardhan hill. This is very important, because Krishna's capital Dwaraka currently falls within the IVC regions. The Mahabharata war started because the IVC elite could not decide on which parts of the ancient India could be divided among the Kings of IVC. Also, the term Bharata, Brata, Fruit, Bridgetta etc seems to be a general usage for being fruitful and agriculture.

But there is noo doubt, the civilisation was over archingly of Indian Dravidian extraction, albeit not Indo European. That is why there is a presence of Pashupathi(Shiva) seals, Bharata( Man holding two tigers), Skanda ( 7 Sisters raised him and so the seals).

How an elite civilisation such as this rose while still being in contact with the greater Indo European and Dravidian masses is a big question. If you use your imagination, what would happen if all the Indians in Dubai and the rest of the middle east decide to leave the middle east (with the decline of Oil) and start a new gated community?. They would bring in advanced building techniques from the middle east(then Sumeria), will not be ruled by a King(like middle east society), but will be a democracy or in the least plutarchy, will be more advanced than the Arab world, due to the presence of greater technical skills and will be much more populous, yet it will still retain its Indic essence and religion, and it will be more or less heterogenous with 85% Dravidians and 15% Indo European mix.Its just a theory.

@Indus Pakistan

You have to read this again, not for information, but as penance. These posts are ALL YOUR FAULT. Look at what you've unleashed on the world. Damn your eyes, Sir. And you can sic Asterix and all his tribe on these black, blue, green, yellow and red eagles.
 
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@Indus Pakistan

You have to read this again, not for information, but as penance. These posts are ALL YOUR FAULT. Look at what you've unleashed on the world. Damn your eyes, Sir. And you can sic Asterix and all his tribe on these black, blue, green, yellow and red eagles.
Little did I know the Pandora's box I was opening but forgive me for my sins ...
 
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The biggest Indus site is not harappa or jodaro, its Rakhigarhi.The sites now in Pakistan seem to be outlier or minor sites.

Rakhigarh is the outlier, as one of the Eastern most sites, in Haryana, formerly East Punjab.

The traditional area of IVC covers, not surprisingly, the Indus basin and surrounding areas of Pakistan and Afghanistan.

There is no reliable data to indicate Dravidian origin of IVC. Actually skull structure indicates that the inhabitants of the region (Pakistan and Afghanistan) have not changed drastically and that they are also related to Persia rather than India.
 
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@Indus Pakistan

You have to read this again, not for information, but as penance. These posts are ALL YOUR FAULT. Look at what you've unleashed on the world. Damn your eyes, Sir. And you can sic Asterix and all his tribe on these black, blue, green, yellow and red eagles.
I genuinely burst into laughter, o lord :rofl:. Good one haha.
Joe, I hope you and your family are fine given the difficult times we find ourselves in.
Indus bhai I hope everything's good on your side too. Hope all stay safe and well.
 
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Joe, I hope you and your family are fine given the difficult times we find ourselves in.

We are, thank you very much. I hope you are well, too; it is remarkable that we seem to have got away with glancing injuries, and I can only hope as hard as I can that matters will blow over quickly in the badly-affected countries also. My daughter (and son-in-law, and grandson) are in Vermont, and that keeps me awake nights, even though the state is stable, because of their proximity to New York.

Best wishes for these times, and for all times. I really miss our discussions, and really cringe at reading pieces like the OP.
 
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