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The South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (SAARC) was established in 1985, is also celebrating the 25th anniversary of its founding. The enervated and impotent organization is holding its 16th summit meeting in Thimpu, Bhutan. Bhutan used to be client state of Bharat (aka India) and many thought that it would end up like Sikkim–a part of Bharat. Bhutan is hosting its first SAARC summit known as the talkshop. The exanimate organization has achieved no results and inspires no one. One wonders why the leaders of the eight countries took the trouble of traveling to the remote Himalayan kingdom.

Theoretically the moribund SAARC is one of the largest regional organizations in the world representing 1.5 billion people across Bharat, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Lanka, Bhutan, the Maldives and Afghanistan. But inanimate Asian debating club has no achievements to its credit. Its leadership in Bhutan admitted that it was a failed association. The state of regional friendship in South Asia can be gleaned from the fact that Pakistani Premier Gilani flew to Bhutan via Nepal, using Chinese territory and avoided Bharati airspace.

There is no cooperation among the states. Bhutan chose the slogan “Green and happy South Asia” focusing on climate change as the theme of the summit. Many had hoped that the focus would have been an the agreement on trade in services. Intra-SAARC trade in South Asia remains low ignoring the agreed upon South Asian Free Trade Agreement (SAFTA) that came into force in 2006.

It is no great secret that the Bharat-Pakistan rivalry hampers everything and is a huge impediment to its evolution into anything of importance. The bickering in South Asia is however not just limited to those two countries. Bharat has issus with each of the other members. None of the other members are contiguous to the other, so that they have to go through Bharat.

In the early 50s it used to be called the Indian Subcontinent. In the 60s it was called the Indo-Pakistani Subcontinent. It would now be true that that the euphemism of South Asia could be called the Chinese Subcontinent. Bharat is now rapidly losing its salience. Beijing’s growing dominance of the South Asian landscape is a fait accompli. China entered SAARC to fill the vacuum. It began its term as an observer in 2005, supported by most member states, except Bharat. Delhi resisted but could not challenge the majority. In the end it reluctantly acquiesced. Bangladesh and Nepal used to tow Delhi’s line. Things have changed. Now, much to Bharat’s’s chagrin, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nepal are supporting China’s full membership in SAARC. Even Afghanistan has not opposed it. Chances are that SAARC membership is for Beijing ot have, if she wants it.

One would have to living in a cave to not see China’s rising profile in the Subcontinent. It is not surprising to see diminution of Bharat’s role–what is astonishing is the rapidity at which Delhi has been forced to cede strategic space to Beijing. China is becoming the largest trading partner with all the SAARC states including Bharat. Delhi still thinks of South Asia as being its exclusive sphere of influence. Of course, no one even takes note of it anymore.

Pakistan’s all-weather friendship with China which is billed as “higer than that the Karakorams, deeper than the sea and sweeter than honey”. All this achieved without threats or hegemony. The reach of China in all other South Asian states has been extraordinary–representing the low profile policies of the countries. There is never any bluster from Beijing. High profile bonanzas are shunned. Deals are signed at low-profile functions. Bangladesh and Lanka view Bharat building barriers against their exports than in spurring regional economic integration. Bharati politics certainly have not helped. Delhi is seen as an impediment to trade. Bharat’s protectionist policies have allowed China to be accepted as the leader of South Asia.All Bharat can do is sit and watch. Bharat could have emerged as facilitator of socio-economic development in Sri Lanka, Nepal Bangladesh, and Bhutan. It however missed the boat. Ephemeral success in the 90s gave it a swollen head, and it wa unable see the potential of building relationships based on mutual trust and equality. Beijing works in its own ways. China’s developmental assistance to all countries have having a huge impact on the region.

Bharat tried to build counterweights to China, by inviting Japan, the US and Australia to the club. It had hoped that Afghanistan would be a key ally and support it like Sikkim used to do. Bharat’s attempts to keep China out of the subcontinent have failed. Delhi does not have the capacity to re-evaluate its South Asian policy. It is impotent to see the opportunities, and sees the world from a lens of hubris an arrogance. China’s strategy towards Subcontinent is premised on its regional standing,global outreach and the obvious–encirclement of its arch-enemy Bharat. China has successfully cut Bharat to size confining it within the geographical coordinates of the national boundaries. This strategy of building relationships began with Pakistan and has gradually evolved to include all the states in the region, including Maldives, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Bhutan and Nepal.

China has entered markets in the Subcontinent more aggressively through trade, aid, grants and investment, improving linkages with all the South Asian states through treaties and bilateral cooperation. Beijing, flush with trade surpluses has been building colossal infrastructure projects constructing a ring of road and port connections in Bharat’s neighborhood. It has been deepening military cooperation with states in its neighborhood. China has firmly entrenched itself in the Subcontinent which at one time Delhi considered its backyard.

This under the radar idyllic, impassive imperturbability has allowed Beijing to assert its relationships with all its neighbors. Beijing thus allows the smaller countries of South Asia to play China off against Bharat. Pakistan was the first one to rebel against the Bharati domination–but other states have taken a clue from this. Most states in the region now use the China card to balance against the hegemonic predominance of Bharat. Since China has no territorial claims against any of the states, it can move in with a trust factor. It also does not make demands. Almost all states have learned to ignore Bharat and build lucrative relations with China.

Bharat’s hubris, arrogance and attempted structural dominance build perpetual resentment against the big bully. Bharati leadership and the ability to show a vision is missing and has been missing for decades. There is talk af setting up another organization of smaller states without Bharat. Bharat has failed to counter Beijing’s rising star has made it even more unlikely that such cooperation will evolve productively.

China is the undisputed leader of the region. Bharat is an also-ran.

The religious Hinduists in Bharat have tried to use SAARC to resurrect the ephemeral Akhand Bharat dominated by Delhi—a sort of a British Indian Empire with Bharat as the center of the universe. Since all countries in South Asia struggled to et away from Delhi’s dominance–this is a not a good model The EU had most of its countries of similar size and none wanted to take over the smaller states.

In South Asia, the sovereignty dynamics between a larger Bharat and its smaller neighbors ensures that the road to economic and political cooperation will be a bumpy one. Many think that it will be impossible and SAARC wil wither away like the Warsaw pact.

A Chinese Subcontinent | Pakistan Patriot
 
i am surprised, every thing i see fromkarachi to gifts from US, canada stuff in england is "made in china", does china use its resourse and raw materials to export its products or it imports the ra material which is then made into workable products and exported.
 
Well Mir Jafar and Mir Sadiq said the same didn't they? Let our land be dominated by the British. The same mentality by Modern day Mir Jafar and Mir Sadiqs now shown here want to live under Chinese domination.


China is a major major part of Asia, no one can deny that. Britian is in Europe and shall stay in Europe forever. Most South Asian countries are immediate neighbours of China. Pakistan, Afghanistan, India, Nepal, Bhutan, Myanmar all share a border with China.
 
If India is an impediment to the trade, definitely all have rights to look elsewhere. If it is China (which definitely is), so be it.

If China is a common bond all want to share so be it. If all feel comfortable in dealing with China that is the choice of the nations.

India is having a huge trade with China and I believe all of the neighbours are also. So the scenario does not change much from what is at present.

India hardly has significant trade with Bangladesh and Pakistan (the biggest 2 neighbours), so again any improvement might benefit India also (as has benefitted China).

India might be worried, not for the trade part, but the other geo-political issues. One of them is China would not like a democratic and pluralistic India to be successful. This puts huge pressure on its society, which you can see Tibetians & Uighurs being trampled.

China is more comfortable with Monotheist culture based countries as they have the similar mentality. So it understands and nurtures Burma, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Iran, etc. Elsewhere it might encourage some disruptions through backdoor like Maoist in Nepal and India.

Chinal wants itself to be insulated by a group of countries having similar monotheist culture which will reduce pressure from its society.

Ofcourse the other danger, going forward is the total domination of trade, culture and even policies by China. The way it is being seen by others, who are more matured in terms of governance and pluralistic societies, is that China is becoming more and more aggressive in its policies which unfortunately is not aligned to world opinion. Its manipulative exchange rate creates havoc with client states, its weak judiciary tramples extremely on human rights, its manipulative information control raises suspicion amongst all. It also has problems with all its neighbours.

Yes still it is a big economy and a superpower today and yes definitely it will have lots of frenzied followers.

India respects China but does not want to emulate in toto. India is too big and varied to be in that shoe. India respects others choice but has to be careful about the future.

Of course India does not claim as "Indian Sub-continent" anymore (may be some go by it still), but if Bangladesh wants to be part of China (or its sub-continent) it is their decision.

India has lots of its own problems to pay heed to.

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China is a major major part of Asia, no one can deny that. Britian is in Europe and shall stay in Europe forever. Most South Asian countries are immediate neighbours of China. Pakistan, Afghanistan, India, Nepal, Bhutan, Myanmar all share a border with China.

We aren't taking about Asia, we are talking about the sub-continent. Is China a major part of the sub-continent.

What type of mentality that instead the author would call the sub-continent a Chinese one ? They are ready to live under the hegemony of the Chinese just because they don't want to live under the hegemony of the Indians?

Wasn't that the same with Tipu Sultan in Mysore? Even though his state was the most powerful then, the Marathas and the Nizams utilized the British to defeat him. And then the Marathas themselves were defeated by the British.

If we don't learn from history, we are destined to keep repeating it. And seeing from this article the author is even looking forward to it!
 
China is a major major part of Asia, no one can deny that. Britian is in Europe and shall stay in Europe forever. Most South Asian countries are immediate neighbours of China. Pakistan, Afghanistan, India, Nepal, Bhutan, Myanmar all share a border with China.
Only fools can say the words like "chinese subcontinent". Alternately you can say pakistan is a puppet state for the US and sometimes China and it can become a puppet in any strong nation which oppose India.
India has considerable influence in its bordering states. Culturally Nepal, Bhutan, Srilanka, Bangladesh,Pakistan are very similar and they share the history too. What way China has the influence in the past. Just because China is a friend to pakistan does not make China close to the sub continent.
Chinese may have invested in the above states and may be helping their economies to gain global dominance, But Indian role cannot be ignored in the subcontinent In the past 3 years the Bhutan, Nepal, Bangladesh, Srilanka and maldives govts are closely working with Indian govt. Only pakistan is the spoiler of the SAARC nothing more.
 
We aren't taking about Asia, we are talking about the sub-continent. Is China a major part of the sub-continent.

What type of mentality that instead the author would call the sub-continent a Chinese one ? They are ready to live under the hegemony of the Chinese just because they don't want to live under the hegemony of the Indians?

Wasn't that the same with Tipu Sultan in Mysore? Even though his state was the most powerful then, the Marathas and the Nizams utilized the British to defeat him. And then the Marathas themselves were defeated by the British.

If we don't learn from history, we are destined to keep repeating it. And seeing from this article the author is even looking forward to it!

Ejazbhai, I'm surprised how low on self confidence these people are. Of course you can LOVE china and chinese without having to prostrate in front of them???

They'll always remain a country looking upto one big brother or the other.
 
India could have acted as US client state like many others to make it American Sub continent. Middle east has already gone to US. Now sub continent nations can experiment with China.
 
Matter of the fact is, Indian Clowns, that China being an Independent friendly Nation to all the Nations in this region and your poorest of poor India (wannabe Power) is pain in the neck for the whole region. Acting with Support of US and Europe as acted in past by Support of USSR as ''A Power'' (your dream). Now weather you like it or not we are all more affiliated with China then your miserable India ''Mir Sadiq, Mir Jaffar''. Go Away & enjoy sitting on laps of others to get some ''Powers''.
 
@ EjazR
@ fateh71

Self satisfying egoistic arguments that hold no ground and are way to far from reality, Ejaz sahib I will talk about Pakistan and you very well know the reason that why India cant be trusted from our point of view. I shall rather not go through them, but better to change the situation and attitude of your own country and then lecture us. You go on to blame every one but india its self.
And fateh, well you are not even worth an argument.
 
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what is meant by subcontinent m confused with comments

A subcontinent is a large, relatively self-contained landmass forming a subdivision of a continent. By dictionary entries, the term subcontinent signifies "having a certain geographical or political independence" from the rest of the continent, or "a vast and more or less self-contained subdivision of a continent

so how china fit with nepal, pakistan. bhutan, india
 
khalidbhai

First of all, Im only critical of the author (and by extension those who would hold the view of the author). Not Pakistan or the Pakistani people in general who probably would find it abhorent as well. Its not an issue of trusting or not trusting your neighbors. And after all you can't change your geography so your neighbors are here to stay.

The point I'm making is that it took our forefathers (Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis) around a 100 years to get rid of the British in British India. And now we have someone from PakistanPatriot.com advocating attaching Chinese in place of the British?

The SAARC is not a dream of "akhand bharat". It is just a regional cooperation council where more often than not shows the strength of smaller countries in driving the agenda. It was afterall Bangladesh president Ziaur Rahman and not India who actually came up with the idea in the first place.

There is no need to be paranoid about that. And in the long term, my personal opinion is that the best interests of Pakistan will lie in aligning with India just as among other people Allama Iqbal envisioned it so.

Does India contribute to making problems in the advancement of SAARC, ofcourse. GoI is not perfect. I'm not the one who says India does no wrong and its true that at times India has acted more like a regional hegemon than say a genuine bigger brother helping out the smaller SAARC nations. But that still doesn't change what I have written above.
 
Just one word.... "Slave Mentality"...

Yeah but I do not understand why you want to classify yourself as a slave, ok so you danced at the Russians ball, earlier than that gave into the British demand where as we in area called modern Pakistan kept rebelling so much that uighirs were stationed here and leaders killed and thier children sent to UK.

Now US is using you as a cash point for afghanistan and using you to trap the real shining star of the world. We as a nation will do everything to keep you down and make china rise on the world stage. True friends deserve our help at all turns of thier journey, not countries who solely work for 'interests'.
 
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