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a beautiful post about north korea

I have no idea that North Korea is so much better than the US.
people are slimmer in north korea.. I mean the korea.. the real korea

grenada, cuba, iraq, libyan jamahiriya, syria, venezuela, iran ( 1953 ), vietnam, laos, romania, afghanistan, somalia, angola, chad, gaza, congo, korea ( 1950-53 )... other members may please add.



how about the homeless people in usa?? why does every post-ww2 usa government spend money to produce more and more weapons and wage wars instead of providing homes to its own citizens??

in dprk housing is a free facility because it is considered a human right in that socialist country.


look at this[1] tragic case from usa from 2014...



so in usa, if you cannot find good-paying employment, you become so stressed you may suicide or become careless about health dangers.


the above case when taken for the entire population of usa[2]...


while in dprk, medical system is free, housing is a free right and citizens need not suicide, die or be stressed because of lack of money.


so this life-taking and anti-harmony capitalist system is what usa government wants to export to every progressive/socialist country??



whenever i use "nato" i mean all militaries technically the members and and also those more than on hello terms - for example, singapore, brunei and the gulf states.



why do you think that?? you have not visited dprk personally, yes??

here is one thread[3] called "13 observations about north korea by a western visitor" that you will find in the "similar threads" section at the bottom of this very page... it gives a sympathetic view of dprk.

there are others who have visited dprk and don't hold opposing view of dprk and i have posted before of two such western young men - nile bowie and kai.



how is that a less of a issue or a academic issue?? we are humans who must judge on wrong and right at least in the modern world and seek a proper path to the near-future... should we forget that 250,000 syrians died just since 2011 because of nato regime-change plotting?? should we forget that obomba and co. are war-criminals and genociders??



yes, family members succeeding in head-of-state positions is not quite the democracy promised by socialism and dprk as well as syria as well as every other country should look at the green book to fulfill true democracy, but why does dprk become exemplar of "family rule" and not saudia or britain or netherlands or even usa ( the bush family )??



why do you think that sukant chandan and myself are wrong about dprk and bbc/cnn/radio-liberty/dailymail are right??



india has the largest number of cell phone subscribers and is one of the largest markets for consumer gadgets, but is india a example of progressive society??

by the way, i don't use cell phone.

why do you think dprk is all about "idyllic and beautiful rural simple life"??

how am i privileged compared to a person in pyongyang?? i have had a life of suffering which wouldn't have been the case if india had a socialism-guided political system.



you saw that somebody's question to me but didn't see my answer[4] to him right on the first page... was it your hurry to bash dprk?? :)



besides my point, @Madali has answered[5] you in a simple and direct manner and you didn't reply to this point of his...



and i will add that dprk will have much better living conditions and human rights than india whose nationalist members are overwhelmingly represented on pdf.

the uno-undp agency's "human development index"[6] for year 2014 has india at number 135 and cuba at 44, syria at 118 ( despite the war )... it is india that was declared "suicide capital of the world"[7] by uno-who agency in 2014, with year 2012 seeing 250,000 suicides in india... there are 70+ million homeless people in india... in late 2014 ( under modi government ) came reports of hunger deaths[8] in the tea estates of darjeeling... i can write many other things about problems in india, which only exist because of the non-scientific political system that promotes the traditional indian extreme capitalism and reactionary attitudes, but i will omit those here because i have written on them many times on pdf including here[9].

so what is your point??



i used the older word "country" instead of "nation".

besides, should we not criticize our country's establishment if it does something wrong??



firstly, the source is "guardian", which automatically would be biased against dprk... why should "guardian" be believed in this situation??

secondly, look at my quoting of "rt" articles about the oppressive situation in usa.

now to your article...

the graphic has the item "press freedom index ranking", which doesn't give any true picture of any country... the same graphic has "gdp" but this doesn't say that in dprk, things like housing and medical system are free for the citizens unlike in south korea... the same graphic has the item "military expenditure" which also doesn't say that nato has been keen since 1953 to invade dprk and do regime-change like happened with libyan jamahiriya with 40+ nato militaries invading it in 2011 preceeded by thousands of nato-proxy terrorists and the libyan jamahiriya had dismantled its nuclear weapons program.

what is "north korea is a small, impoverished and isolated country" in the article?? the citizens would be in better living conditions than any south asian country ( especially india ) and how is dprk "isolated" just because no nato bloc airplanes are regularly landing in dprk airports?? there are so many progressive people's delegations, tourists, commercial delegations and government delegations going to dprk every year.

in the table, dprk is described as having more land mass than south korea but doesn't say that much of dprk is mountainous land which is difficult to cultivate for crops but even the biased wikipedia entry for "north korea" has this...



and the table continues its disinfo by talking of "global hunger index score"... in india, 500,000 children under the age of five die every year of malnutrition and look at the darjeeling tea estate hunger deaths in india that i quoted to ayesha.

lastly, if you subscribe to the right facebook groups, you can see pictures and informations of the latest developments in dprk in various sectors.



when @Madali has used simple reasoning and shown the wrongness of your arguments and sources, why are you still being stubbornly anti-dprk and especially continuing the lies about those speakers??

and why did you now start on the libyan jamahiriya??


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[1] Woman working 4 jobs to make ends meet dies while napping in car between shifts — RT USA

[2] Job stress ‘behind 120,000 American deaths a year’ — RT USA

[3] 13 Observations about North Korea by a Western Visitor

[4] a beautiful post about north korea

[5] a beautiful post about north korea | Page 3

[6] 2014 Human Development Report (HDI) | UNDP

[7] India is Suicide Capital: World Health Organisation (WHO)

[8] http://bigstory.ap.org/article/c070.../death-hunger-stalk-indian-tea-estate-workers

[9] Toxoplasmosis in Asia | Page 2
because oppressive and closed regimes are always sh*thole, without exception. BTW you cannot take a free tour in north korea, it will have to be arranged by their govt. You can see only what they want to show. Its like going on a tour bus, I can show India is the most beautiful country with happy people if I can arrange a tour of India.

Do watch vice video of NK tour, its quite funny although vice has got their own bias. BTW do you know the grandpa Kim is still president of NK even though he has been dead for more than a decade.
Look at their pathetic state controlled media, where the 'leader' is always shown to 'give directions' and a guy taking note of it. And food, north koreans are probably only country who will show you food... that they got food.

You have not travelled, neither have I. However we can use the same information, direct and indirect, see similarities with other regime and have a decent idea what to expect.
 
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That's really a silly argument. There are a lot of countries who are not represented here. I don't think presence on a Pakistani defence forum gives us any clue about that country. Indian posters are here much more than people from New Zealand, does that mean that India is overwhelmingly better than New Zealand?

Do you find North Koreans on any other forum? Anywhere on the internet? Unless you are very naive and misinformed, you are being disingenous. You know that the govt of N Korea does not allow internet access to most people. Nor do they allow North Koreans the freedom to visit another country.

BTW I didn't make an argument - I asked a question. Answer that question honestly to yourself, even if you don't post it here. Forget PDF, ask yourself why you don' see ordinary North Korean people anywhere on the net.
 
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Do you find North Koreans on any other forum? Anywhere on the internet? Unless you are very naive and misinformed, you are being disingenous. You know that the govt of N Korea does not allow internet access to most people. Nor do they allow North Koreans the freedom to visit another country.

BTW I didn't make an argument - I asked a question. Answer that question honestly to yourself, even if you don't post it here. Forget PDF, ask yourself why you don' see ordinary North Korean people anywhere on the net.

ayesha ji, you are turning this into a circular argument. :)
 
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