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8 Myths About India's Growth

On closer inspection, the Indian miracle turns out to be pretty ordinary after all.

Is India different? Last month, India's finance minister confidently declared that nothing could stop his country from becoming the world's third-biggest economy. He may well be right, but size alone does not make India a special case. Its growth has been fast, but it is no trailblazer.

Here are eight popular myths about India's growth, all of which are easily debunked:

India has outperformed other emerging economies in the recent past. In the two decades from 1992 to 2012, average living standards in India did rise faster than those in most countries that started from a similar level. In fact, only nine other countries in the world saw living standards, measured by purchasing power, climb more quickly: Albania, Armenia, Bhutan, China, Equatorial Guinea, the Maldives, Mozambique, Sudan, and Vietnam. Faster growth was to be expected in countries that started out with lower living standards than India's, but several of these -- Albania, Armenia, Bhutan, China, and the Maldives -- actually started out with higher purchasing power. Relative to them, India underperformed.

India will grow faster than other emerging economies in the future. For the next five years, the International Monetary Fund projects that living standards in several countries will grow faster than India's. Among them, again, are countries with a higher starting position: Bhutan, China, the Republic of Congo, and Georgia. India will likely outperform many other economies that have similar living standards today, but it hasn't unlocked every secret of economic growth just yet.

When India finally opens its markets to trade, exports will supercharge its growth. India is not the easiest place to be an exporter, but it's hardly the most difficult, either. In terms of both time and money needed to ship a container of goods, India ranks in the middle of the pack, according to the World Bank. If anything, exports could become more expensive for Indian companies if the United States and others forced India to drop some of its remaining export subsidies. In 2011, India's exports and imports represented 54 percent of GDP, about the same share as in China. It's unlikely that exports will change the growth story anytime soon.

The urbanization of India's huge rural population will lead to unprecedented increases in living standards. Urbanization has been a critical ingredient to economic growth for many countries. Simply putting labor next to capital by attracting people into cities tends to raise workers' productivity and, eventually, their incomes. More than two thirds of India's population still lives in rural areas, compared with less than half in China. But India is not under-urbanized compared to other poor countries; if you look at how living standards compare to urbanization among all the world's countries, India sits right on the best-fit line. There's no reason to believe that urbanization will help India's growth more than it has for any other country.

India's service industry will provide a huge boost to employment. India's legions of call-center staffers, software developers, and information-technology experts have led some analysts to proclaim a "service revolution" that will provide an alternative to manufacturing as a path to prosperity. Yet economists suggest that India's service sector has merely caught up to international norms, and there is no particular reason to believe that it will take over a much bigger share of the economy as the country grows. The literacy rate in China is much higher, and it's not clear that India even has more English speakers. Moreover, as wages rise in China, the opportunity for India to raise living standards through manufacturing -- not services -- will expand enormously.
India has more mathematical, scientific, and engineering geniuses to drive its economic growth than other countries. In absolute terms, this may be true; after all, India has a population of more than 1.2 billion people. But a population this big will have more people at either end of the distribution of economic ability: more geniuses, and more people with serious challenges to their cognitive capacity. The question is whether the extra geniuses will have a positive effect that is disproportionate to India's population. If this were true more generally, populous countries like Germany and France would have higher living standards than smaller countries with similar advantages, like Switzerland and Denmark. Clearly, this is not the case.

As a democracy, India is more conducive to free-market capitalism. The links between democracy and economic growth have interested economists for decades, and the rise of state capitalism in non-democratic countries like China and Saudi Arabia has posed an ideological challenge. India is often touted as the world's biggest democracy; the World Bank's Worldwide Governance Indicators rank it in the 59th percentile for "voice and accountability" of citizens and government, just shy of several members of the European Union. Still, India's markets are far from free. The Heritage Foundation's Index of Economic Freedom calls India "mostly unfree" with a ranking of 119 out of 177 countries, as a result of heavy government involvement in the economy, from regulatory requirements to trade barriers. It's also one of the toughest places in the world to start a business.

The British legacy of a strong legal system gives India an edge. If it does, it's not a very big edge. Geographical factors like coastline, rainfall, and temperature can explain a big share of the differences in living standards between countries today. Controlling for these factors, former British colonies tend to do better than the average among all countries. But among the former colonies, India is one of the worst performers. Indeed, its living standards are worse than you might have expected given its geography. That may be because the vast majority of India's workers operate outside the strictures and protections of the legal system, in an environment more reminiscent of London's 19th century slums than Canary Wharf.

To sum up, there's little basis for any sort of mystique surrounding India's economic growth. On its current path, India shows no obvious signs of rewriting the textbooks; on the contrary, it has confirmed much of what economists already understood about urbanization, industrialization, trade, and institutions. Don't get me wrong -- India is undoubtedly a fascinating country for many other reasons. But to an economist, it's just another poor country that happens to be very, very big.

8 Myths About India's Growth - By Daniel Altman | Foreign Policy
 
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So what????? U mad or just Chinese? We growin at 6% in recession while u are facing exodus of manufacturers. Trust me nobody worth their money buys Huawei **** in USA or EU

Huawei is the largest telecom manufacturer in the world. Period. Beat that.

Emotional rants had better be backed by facts. Try to learn from other countries' successes, rather than trying to belittle them.

If India had invested in semiconductor manufacturing like China did, our trade imbalance would have been a lot less. Every sub component in every electronic device you get in India (and the USA too, for that matter) is made in China.

If we had one huawei, that itself would have added about 0.2 % GDP growth for the nation. If we had all their electronics manufacturing industries, our growth would have been several percentages higher.
 
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Its ironic that its the Americans who gets the chinese free from Japanese slavery while India kicked the Britishers out and earned freedom for itself.

Since the 70s its the USA who have helped china against then USSR to grow and develop but chinese still hate the americans :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

It was hong kong gifted by Britishers and the USA's help that china seen some development and economic growth.

Still chinese hate everyone USA, UK, Vietnam, S Korea etc. etc.

How ungrateful :rolleyes:
 
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We are talking about value of brands. All those numbers is because of African and Asian networks. Would you rather buy a BMW or a Chinese luxury brand?

In USA and Europe and the developed countries Huawei has literally no penetration.

Even if that is true, so what? They still get billions of dollars every year from overseas customers. So what, if it is in Africa and Asia? Does something become worthy only if it is purchased by americans? The choice of asians and africans does not matter to evaluating the worth of a thing?

That demonstrates some inferiority complex on your part. Judging the worth of a thing only by getting the appreciation of Europeans or americans. As if Asians and Africans are not important enough to listen to. As if the money earned from Asia or Africa is any less valuable than money earned from white people.

Money is colorless - whether it comes from black africans, or brown asians, or white europeans, the same amount of money has the same purchasing power.

Anyway, you are factually wrong too. Please read about the company's activities and revenues from European and North american markets.

And huawei is just one company, that you bought up. It is a fact that almost every electronic device in USA or elsewhere is manufactured mostly in China. From Iphones to laptops to ultrabooks. Open them up, and see how many "made in China" labels you see.
 
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We are talking about value of brands. All those numbers is because of African and Asian networks. Would you rather buy a BMW or a Chinese luxury brand?

In USA and Europe and the developed countries Huawei has literally no penetration.

BBC News - Lenovo ousts HP as world's top PC maker

Lenovo emerges as top PC seller in India, overtakes Dell & HP - Economic Times

Chinese banks top Forbes Global list of world's biggest companies - The Guardian

At least we are trying.
 
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Since this is a repost anyways, I will simply crosspost from the twin thread:


Anyways, the article is ridiculously one sided and is actually making many of these "myths" for the first time.

India is still the country which is the 10th largest economy by GDP and the 3rd largest by PPP, the same country is growing with +5% annually despite a global recession and no reforms, the same country has one of the largest middle classes and is one of the largest markets for many many industries, the same country has a huge work force and is lifting millions out of poverty, the same country is a G20 and BRICS member and a top contributor to organizations like the IMF, the same country has one of the largest and most capable armed forces which are expanding with their capabilities on a high pace, the same country is increasing in local defence industry and is capable to produce all kinds of equipment either in license or in form of self designed ones etc etc etc....

From Forbes: "The triumph of the great free-market liberalization that took place in India in 1991 is stunning, an advancement for human well-being that is one of the greatest stories ever told. Life expectancy has risen from less than 45 years to more than 60. The poverty ratio, still over 50 percent as recently as 1977-78, has fallen to 20 percent. There were only 5 million phones in India in 1990-91; today there are hundreds of millions, with more than 15 million phones being activated a month."


India's Economic Rise Is A Firm Rebuke Of Joseph Stiglitz, Brad DeLong, And The World Bank - Forbes

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kylesmit...he-world-bank/

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/249136-8-myths-about-indias-growth-2.html#ixzz2RxvI3YfP
 
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So what????? U mad or just Chinese? We growin at 6% in recession while u are facing exodus of manufacturers. Trust me nobody worth their money buys Huawei **** in USA or EU

And you think that big brand names dont have anything Chinese in them? Whether or not anybody buys Huawei, it is still more than any Indian company, which btw only import and assemble Chinese parts.
 
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Its ironic that its the Americans who gets the chinese free from Japanese slavery while India kicked the Britishers out and earned freedom for itself.

Since the 70s its the USA who have helped china against then USSR to grow and develop but chinese still hate the americans :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

It was hong kong gifted by Britishers and the USA's help that china seen some development and economic growth.

Still chinese hate everyone USA, UK, Vietnam, S Korea etc. etc.

How ungrateful :rolleyes:

Just like that Indians today are ungrateful for everything Britain has done for you, if it wasn't for Britain there wouldn't have been a India like it is today. Modern day India is a artificial British creation and all you Indian ungrates do is nothing but bad mouth British rule.
 
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Just like that Indians today are ungrateful for everything Britain has done for you, if it wasn't for Britain there wouldn't have been a India like it is today. Modern day India is a artificial British creation and all you Indian ungrates do is nothing but bad mouth British rule.

Well,If it wasn't for allied forces in World War 2,There would've been no China either and Japanese will be still killing your men and raping your women.Modern China is nothing more than a byproduct allied victory in WWII.So quit being such a jerk and learn some humility.
 
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Well,If it wasn't for allied forces in World War 2,There would've been no China either and Japanese will be still killing your men and raping your women.Modern China is nothing more than a byproduct allied victory in WWII.So quit being such a jerk and learn some humility.

Without Britain there will be no India as it is today, modern India is merely a byproduct of the British empire. So take you're own advice.
 
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Does it make a difference that there would have been no India or the other way..you have to recognize the fact that India is your dear western neighbour, period!
 
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Well,If it wasn't for allied forces in World War 2,There would've been no China either and Japanese will be still killing your men and raping your women.Modern China is nothing more than a byproduct allied victory in WWII.So quit being such a jerk and learn some humility.

Allied forces includes ROC which continue to fight from the mountain fortress of ChongQing throughout the war. ROC was one of the victors of WW2. That is why China today sit in the UNSC and not India. Japan were already hopelessly bogged down in China occupying only pockets of major cities. If not for China, Japan would have freed up to a million soldiers. China today do not speak Japanese but it is the Japanese that are writing in HanZi (KanJi). India is run by an Italian waitress and speak English... ? No ?

And it was PRC poor and hungry peasants that kicked out the American supported ROC and united All Under Heaven. The Middle Kingdom own nobody anything for it hard fought country. India however was handed over by the British in one piece ... No ? And even join the so call commonwealth except the wealth is not common.
 
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Effective utilisation of india population will provide growth.
Which is indeed proportional to literacy which relates to economic growth and innovation.
In india s case the literacy still lacks, population on rise, NGO taking a mockery out of government.
Stupidity of civilians eg. Stoping nuclear power plant in jaitapur near Mumbai despite knowing india deprives in electricity.
Protest everywhere.
Not a single project gets comp,eyed without court involvement and disputes.
Lethargic work ethics.
And it goes on.....
Indian economy is only in the hands of the rich of the old era.. Such as pre independence companies such as tata and l and t.
Conclusion
India is a big mess to do business in.
Not for faint hearted and hence full of blunder
 
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Huawei is the largest telecom manufacturer in the world. Period. Beat that.

Emotional rants had better be backed by facts. Try to learn from other countries' successes, rather than trying to belittle them.

If India had invested in semiconductor manufacturing like China did, our trade imbalance would have been a lot less. Every sub component in every electronic device you get in India (and the USA too, for that matter) is made in China.

If we had one huawei, that itself would have added about 0.2 % GDP growth for the nation. If we had all their electronics manufacturing industries, our growth would have been several percentages higher.




Is this something we can tackle now with regard to the Semiconductor biz?

Effective utilisation of india population will provide growth.
Which is indeed proportional to literacy which relates to economic growth and innovation.
In india s case the literacy still lacks, population on rise, NGO taking a mockery out of government.
Stupidity of civilians eg. Stoping nuclear power plant in jaitapur near Mumbai despite knowing india deprives in electricity.
Protest everywhere.
Not a single project gets comp,eyed without court involvement and disputes.
Lethargic work ethics.
And it goes on.....
Indian economy is only in the hands of the rich of the old era.. Such as pre independence companies such as tata and l and t.
Conclusion
India is a big mess to do business in.
Not for faint hearted and hence full of blunder



Don;t blame the stupidity of the ppl for blocking the nuclear reactor construction. They know very well how corrupt and ineffective the govt is. They will build blindly and make no effort for safety.
 
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