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75 Philippine U.N. peacekeepers defy Syria rebels after 43 Fijians seized

UN troops withdraw from Syrian Golan
Agence France-Presse
Posted at 09/16/2014 3:28 PM | Updated as of 09/16/2014 4:15 PM

GOLAN HEIGHTS - Hundreds of UN troops withdrew from the Syrian to the Israeli-occupied sector of the Golan on Monday, an AFP correspondent said, two weeks after Al-Qaeda-linked rebels kidnapped dozens of peacekeepers.

They crossed in a UN convoy in the afternoon into the Israeli-occupied sector, the correspondent said.

The peacekeepers in the Golan Heights withdrew to the Israeli side after Syrian fighters advanced near their positions, a UN spokesman said.

The armed groups posed "a direct threat to the safety and security" of the UN Disengagement Observer Force (UNDOF) troops, spokesman Stephane Dujarric said.

UNDOF monitors a 1974 ceasefire between Israel and Syria on the Golan Heights.

In late August, rebels on the Syrian side including Al-Qaeda affiliate Al-Nusra Front seized the Quneitra crossing and kidnapped more than 40 Fijian UNDOF troops, before they were released two weeks later.

They also clashed with 75 Filipino members of the force, who eventually fled a nearby outpost.

Dujarric said the situation on the Syrian side of the Golan "has deteriorated severely" and that "armed groups have made advances in the area of UNDOF positions".

Rebels including Al-Nusra have now taken control of most of the Syrian side of the plateau from forces loyal to President Bashar al-Assad, a Britain-based Syria monitoring group said on Saturday.

The fighting has driven thousands of Syrian families from their homes.

"Clashes between government forces and the armed opposition have intensified in recent days in Quneitra governorate -- in Quneitra city in particular, where access to clean water, food, and health care is limited," the International Committee of the Red Cross said in a statement.

The ICRC said it has provided emergency relief for more than 50,000 people, but warned the number of displaced people was "expected to grow".

Israel seized 1,200 square kilometres (460 square miles) of the Golan during the Six-Day War of 1967, then annexed it in 1981 in a move never recognised by the international community.

Some 510 square kilometres of the Golan remain on the Syrian side of the ceasefire line, with UNDOF overseeing a buffer zone stretching some 70 kilometres from Lebanon in the north to Jordan in the south.

UNDOF's mandate is renewed every six months, and currently runs until December 31.

Six countries contribute troops to the 1,200-strong UN force on the Golan: Fiji, India, Ireland, Nepal, the Netherlands and the Philippines.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/global-filipino/world/09/16/14/un-troops-withdraw-syrian-golan
 
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Golan chief now calls PH peacekeepers ‘brave’
Published 5:44 AM, Oct 10, 2014
Updated 6:53 AM, Oct 10, 2014

India's Lieutenant General Singha says, 'The Filipino and Fijian peacekeepers bravely faced the situation, and exhibited raw courage, resilience and patience.'

UNITED NATIONS – Just a month after criticizing Filipino peacekeepers for a supposed “act of cowardice,” the commander of the United Nations peacekeeping mission in the Golan Heights now hails their “courage.”

Lieutenant General Iqbal Singh Singha of India changed his tune as he briefed the UN Security Council on the situation of peacekeepers in the Golan Heights.

Yet at the annual peacekeeping briefing at the UN Headquarters in New York, Singha did not address the controversy over whether or not he ordered Filipino peacekeepers to surrender their weapons to the Al-Qaeda-linked Al Nusra Front. The UN lists Al Nusra as a terrorist organization.

Instead, he lauded the Filipinos caught in a firefight with Syrian rebels, and the 45 Fijian peacekeepers the armed groups abducted for two weeks in late August.

“The Filipino and Fijian peacekeepers bravely faced the situation, and exhibited raw courage, resilience and patience,” Singha said on Thursday, October 9.

He added that when 4 countries withdrew last year from the mission known as the UN Disengagement Observer Force (UNDOF), the Philippines was among those that stayed despite two incidents of kidnapping involving its troops.

“It was only the Philippines and India who stayed the course, their soldiers taking on significant extra responsibilities during this period,” Singha said.

The statement was a reversal from an interview Singha gave to India Today in September where he said Filipinos disregarded his orders of “putting down arms,” endangering the lives of the kidnapped Fijians. He called the Filipinos’ unauthorized escape “non-professional” and “an act of cowardice.”

Singha was then responding to criticism from Filipino military chief Gregorio Catapang Jr, who urged the UN to investigate the commander. The Manila-based Catapang approved the Filipinos’ so-called "greatest escape" and decision to defy Singha.

Filipino troops maintained that they acted in self-defense, and that surrendering their arms was no assurance they would not be kidnapped like the Fijians. The UN though has supported Singha’s position, denying that he ordered the troops to surrender weapons.

President Benigno Aquino III last week criticized the UN for the incident, and for giving an “impossible or unclear mission.” He said he is waiting for the results of an investigation, which will form the basis of his decision on whether or not to again send troops to the Golan.

The Philippines pulled out 344 troops a month early in September following the incident, and rebels’ siege of UNDOF positions in the Syrian side of the Golan Heights. It also called for a review of “operational and tactical issues” in peacekeeping “at the highest levels.”

Manila ranks 33rd among countries contributing military and police personnel to UN peacekeeping.

Golan chief now calls PH peacekeepers ‘brave’
 
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B.S.

Now that Golan Heights Peacekeeper chief says this after we had pulled-out our peacekeepers in Golan Heights?

What kind of an a-hole is he?

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sorry for the usage of words, but that Golan Heights peacekeeper chief is like a turncoat.
 
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B.S.

Now that Golan Heights Peacekeeper chief says this after we had pulled-out our peacekeepers in Golan Heights?

What kind of an a-hole is he?

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sorry for the usage of words, but that Golan Heights peacekeeper chief is like a turncoat.
He is just being nice, save their disgraced a$$. Otherwise no one will ever want to work with pinoy cowards again....
 
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He is just being nice, save their disgraced a$$. Otherwise no one will ever want to work with pinoy cowards again....

They are not cowards, they just use their brains. I guess the entire Indian army loves to make last stands though it makes me wonder why India still exist if they love making final stand considering they have bad blood with Pakistan and China.
 
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They are not cowards, they just use their brains. I guess the entire Indian army loves to make last stands though it makes me wonder why India still exist if they love making final stand considering they have bad blood with Pakistan and China.
Are you from this world? Any soldier who uses his brain wouldn't be in fckng military!!! it is like firefighers not wanting to go inside a burning building to save trapped people when their boss asks them to... We not only make last stand but win wars... our armymen (well, atleast majority) are not afraid of death and run away in the middle of night disregarding orders... poems are not written on pinoys who ran away but on light brigade who charged knowing certain death....
 
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Are you from this world? Any soldier who uses his brain wouldn't be in fckng military!!! it is like firefighers not wanting to go inside a burning building to save trapped people when their boss asks them to... We not only make last stand but win wars... our armymen (well, atleast majority) are not afraid of death and run away in the middle of night disregarding orders... poems are not written on pinoys who ran away but on light brigade who charged knowing certain death....

So you acknowledge that all soldiers are drones who should not use their brains and just simply storm the enemy to until they all die? Is that the common Indian strategy when they wage wars?

And those PH soldiers acted in self-defense after that Indian commander ordered them to surrender their arms to al-Nusra militants. FYI, there are two groups of PH peacekeepers that were "trapped"; one group consisting of 35 PH peacekeepers was escorted out by the Irish peacekeepers while the other group that consists of 40 PH peacekeepers fought the al-Nusra militants for several hours and have to escape as they were running out of ammunition.

But I guess there is no point of explaining, since it seems Indians prefer to surrender. No wonder why you will never win against Pakistan.
 
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So you acknowledge that all soldiers are drones who should not use their brains and just simply storm the enemy to until they all die? Is that the common Indian strategy when they wage wars?

And those PH soldiers acted in self-defense after that Indian commander ordered them to surrender their arms to al-Nusra militants. FYI, there are two groups of PH peacekeepers that were "trapped"; one group consisting of 35 PH peacekeepers was escorted out by the Irish peacekeepers while the other group that consists of 40 PH peacekeepers fought the al-Nusra militants for several hours and have to escape as they were running out of ammunition.

But I guess there is no point of explaining, since it seems Indians prefer to surrender. No wonder why you will never win against Pakistan.
No, I don't say that. Soldiers who "use their brains" and escape disregarding the orders should not be called brave but should be prosecuted for cowardice at the face of the enemy. That Irish escort came by the orders of C-in-C of the force. Who deemed further evacuation of post 69 risky and detrimental to negotiations for the release of Fijian peace keepers. But no, pinoys wouldn't have any of it. They were crying and whining to get out of there. The broke every discipline and ran away in the dead of the night while rebels were sleeping (but rebels say they released them, which might be untrue). After that they foolishly accused C-in-C of giving order to surrender while the order was to hold fire. Can you count pinoy stupidity? Thank god we Indians have more disciplined army. If our soldiers were half cowards as pinoy, India would be no more...

PS: Your history might be weak. India has already won against Pakistan in 1971.
 
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No, I don't say that. Soldiers who "use their brains" and escape disregarding the orders should not be called brave but should be prosecuted for cowardice at the face of the enemy. That Irish escort came by the orders of C-in-C of the force. Who deemed further evacuation of post 69 risky and detrimental to negotiations for the release of Fijian peace keepers. But no, pinoys wouldn't have any of it. They were crying and whining to get out of there. The broke every discipline and ran away in the dead of the night while rebels were sleeping (but rebels say they released them, which might be untrue). After that they foolishly accused C-in-C of giving order to surrender while the order was to hold fire. Can you count pinoy stupidity? Thank god we Indians have more disciplined army. If our soldiers were half cowards as pinoy, India would be no more...

PS: Your history might be weak. India has already won against Pakistan in 1971.

Crying to get out there? They stood their ground and repelled al-Nusra militants for three days and have to evacuate because they ran out of ammunition, unless those PH soldiers were suicidal enough, but no, we are not as suicidal as Indians. From your opinion, it seems that all peacekeepers should always follow UN command and disregard any command from their respective countries. But I guess Indian Army has no problem with losing more soldiers as your country has the second largest population, thus a large pool of conscripts and potential volunteers.

Oh sure India may have one the 1971 war while the 1999 war ended with a stalemate, but what happens if China sides with Pakistan in a future war and joins the conflict? Since you said your Indian armed forces are well disciplined and will fight to the death, I guess you can sleep at night while they get slaughtered by the thousands by the Pakistan-Chinese war machine.
 
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Crying to get out there? They stood their ground and repelled al-Nusra militants for three days and have to evacuate because they ran out of ammunition, unless those PH soldiers were suicidal enough, but no, we are not as suicidal as Indians. From your opinion, it seems that all peacekeepers should always follow UN command and disregard any command from their respective countries. But I guess Indian Army has no problem with losing more soldiers as your country has the second largest population, thus a large pool of conscripts and potential volunteers.

Oh sure India may have one the 1971 war while the 1999 war ended with a stalemate, but what happens if China sides with Pakistan in a future war and joins the conflict? Since you said your Indian armed forces are well disciplined and will fight to the death, I guess you can sleep at night while they get slaughtered by the thousands by the Pakistan-Chinese war machine.

Let be kabayan mga Gag0 mga yan let them be
 
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Crying to get out there? They stood their ground and repelled al-Nusra militants for three days and have to evacuate because they ran out of ammunition, unless those PH soldiers were suicidal enough, but no, we are not as suicidal as Indians. From your opinion, it seems that all peacekeepers should always follow UN command and disregard any command from their respective countries. But I guess Indian Army has no problem with losing more soldiers as your country has the second largest population, thus a large pool of conscripts and potential volunteers.

Oh sure India may have one the 1971 war while the 1999 war ended with a stalemate, but what happens if China sides with Pakistan in a future war and joins the conflict? Since you said your Indian armed forces are well disciplined and will fight to the death, I guess you can sleep at night while they get slaughtered by the thousands by the Pakistan-Chinese war machine.
They stood their ground my foot. If it weren't for Assad's force shelling rebels (again on request from C-in-C), their a$$ would have been fried. It is not that pinoys are not suicidal like Indian soldiers, they are not soldier enough. As I said, you are wayyyy out of touch with history. And then your rhetoric about Pak-China war machine, please, save your a$$ when Chinese turn on you. It is either US support or defeat as pinoy soldiers will "use their brains" and flee for their lives...
 
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They stood their ground my foot. If it weren't for Assad's force shelling rebels (again on request from C-in-C), their a$$ would have been fried. It is not that pinoys are not suicidal like Indian soldiers, they are not soldier enough. As I said, you are wayyyy out of touch with history. And then your rhetoric about Pak-China war machine, please, save your a$$ when Chinese turn on you. It is either US support or defeat as pinoy soldiers will "use their brains" and flee for their lives...

I get the feeling you have an extreme hatred of Filipinos, seeing as you mark us as cowards. So go ahead, make negotiations with terrorist, because you Indians prefer negotiate with people who behead anyone who is not Muslim and continue to be a pawn of the UN.

Because Indians surely love to follow whatever the UN tells them. Hell, maybe India will comply to surrender its right as a nation to the UN as Indians love to follow commands.
 
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I get the feeling you have an extreme hatred of Filipinos, seeing as you mark us as cowards. So go ahead, make negotiations with terrorist, because you Indians prefer negotiate with people who behead anyone who is not Muslim and continue to be a pawn of the UN.

Because Indians surely love to follow whatever the UN tells them. Hell, maybe India will comply to surrender its right as a nation to the UN as Indians love to follow commands.
I got nothing to do with filipinos, not even met one of them. But as my name says, I call a spade as spade. That is why i am calling them cowards. It is not an allegation. Our army plays by the rules, at least tries to. We are not there to unilaterally change the UN mission. Since it is voluntary, if we don't like the rules, we don't join the mission. But once we join, we play by the rules.
 
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I got nothing to do with filipinos, not even met one of them. But as my name says, I call a spade as spade. That is why i am calling them cowards. It is not an allegation. Our army plays by the rules, at least tries to. We are not there to unilaterally change the UN mission. Since it is voluntary, if we don't like the rules, we don't join the mission. But once we join, we play by the rules.


Even if that meant surrendering to terrorists and be paraded in international media as hostages?

Oh, so were are Blacks for you? We are niggers?
 
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