50% of all coronavirus test in NYC return postive, the number is 6% in Hubei

[52051]

The number in NYC is 50%+ positive rate, whilst in the entire NY state is 40% positive rate.

For comparsion, at the height of outbreak, Hubei, the epicenter in China, has a positive test rate of only 6%.

And most importantly, in NYC, they still use less reliable and cheap test kits for coronavirus test, there are typically 30% to 70% false-negative rates among these test kits, that's why to clear one case, they need to conduct multiple tests.

Whilst in Hubei, China used the far more accurate test by AI algorithms and CT image, which can do a test in a matter of mins with 96% accuracy.

Which suggests, 40% positive rate of NY state could be actually 60%-70%+ positive rate, comparing to 6% in Hubei at the height of the outbreak.

So basically the case in NYC is out of control, the test is far far away from accurate and sufficient, it will grow at exponential rate for a long time until everyone there get the virus

The America need to shutdown NYC completely from the outside world indefinitely right now to save the rest country from a total collapse if it is still possible.

That's why even the most optimistic scholar like Dr. Zhong Nanshan (chief doctor of CDC China) now believe the US is beyond help.

 

[52051]

On the bright side, the America will be the first modern-day country to conduct a large scale social test on the theory of herd immunity, there will be a lot of medical scholars studying America in the future.

 

[Menthol]

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The number in NYC is 50%+ positive rate, whilst in the entire NY state is 40% positive rate.

For comparsion, at the height of outbreak, Hubei, the epicenter in China, has a positive test rate of only 6%.

And most importantly, in NYC, they still use less reliable and cheap test kits for coronavirus test, there are typically 30% to 70% false-negative rates among these test kits, that's why to clear one case, they need to conduct multiple tests.

Whilst in Hubei, China used the far more accurate test by AI algorithms and CT image, which can do a test in a matter of mins with 96% accuracy.

Which suggests, 40% positive rate of NY state could be actually 60%-70%+ positive rate, comparing to 6% in Hubei at the height of the outbreak.

So basically the case in NYC is out of control, the test is far far away from accurate and sufficient, it will grow at exponential rate for a long time until everyone there get the virus

The America need to shutdown NYC completely from the outside world indefinitely right now to save the rest country from a total collapse if it is still possible.

That's why even the most optimistic scholar like Dr. Zhong Nanshan (chief doctor of CDC China) now believe the US is beyond help.

I believe the coronavirus is already spreading in USA for long.

For 50% of the infection rate, it will need more than 3 months.


Just compare it with Wuhan, where the first virus started to appear at the end of November.

December is the first month where the symptoms appeared and some people started to get sick.

The end of January was the start of the lockdown.

February is where the Chinese government was starting to test all the Wuhan population massively.

From November to February, it's around 4 months (or 3 months if you want to assume that the start of the lockdown was the end of the spreading).


Compare it with New York...

Assuming that the first coronavirus came from China in January (more likely it was in the middle of January, but we will use the entire month).

Now is at the beginning of April, assuming it ends in March.

From January to March, it's 3 months.


Just like New York where the people are not wearing masks nor practicing social distancing for 3 months (January to March)...

In Wuhan from November to January is 4 months.

New York 3 months vs Wuhan 4 months.

It's the period where the spreading rate is at the maximum level because people don't wear masks nor practicing social distancing.

For the 3 vs 4 months, how can New York infection rate is much higher than Wuhan???


So, I can assume that in New York case, the spreading period is much longer than Wuhan to get this kind of widespread infection level.

The same case with Europe.

Based on this alone, I can make a conclusion that the virus is not originated from China.

From the same period of time, the place that has the highest rate of infection level is the origin of the virus.

Unless Chinese people are much cleaner than people in USA.

It's just a common logic and in reality, it is too.

 

[Beast]

I believe the coronavirus is already spreading in USA for long.

For 50% of the infection rate, it will need more than 3 months.


Just compare it with Wuhan, where the first virus started to appear at the end of November.

December is the first month where the symptoms appeared and some people started to get sick.

The end of January was the start of the lockdown.

February is where the Chinese government was starting to test all the Wuhan population massively.

From November to February, it's around 4 months (or 3 months if you want to assume that the start of the lockdown was the end of the spreading).


Compare it with New York...

Assuming that the first coronavirus came from China in January (more likely it was in the middle of January, but we will use the entire month).

Now is at the beginning of April, assuming it ends in March.

From January to March, it's 3 months.


Just like New York where the people are not wearing masks nor practicing social distancing for 3 months (January to March)...

In Wuhan from November to January is 4 months.

New York 3 months vs Wuhan 4 months.

It's the period where the spreading rate is at the maximum level because people don't wear masks nor practicing social distancing.

For the 3 vs 4 months, how can New York infection rate is much higher than Wuhan???


So, I can assume that in New York case, the spreading period is much longer than Wuhan to get this kind of widespread infection level.

The same case with Europe.

Based on this alone, I can make a conclusion that the virus is not originated from China.

From the same period of time, the place that has the highest rate of infection level is the origin of the virus.

Unless Chinese people are much cleaner than people in USA.

It's just a common logic and in reality, it is too.

Precisely, just that the dose gets more and more deadly as it infected more and more New yorkers. The initial batch of American infected by covid-19 probably exhibit very mild symptoms which they never take in heart as something serious than influenza. While those dead by pueumonia are treated as extreme case of normal flu.

 

[Menthol]

I believe the coronavirus is already spreading in USA for long.

For 50% of the infection rate, it will need more than 3 months.


Just compare it with Wuhan, where the first virus started to appear at the end of November.

December is the first month where the symptoms appeared and some people started to get sick.

The end of January was the start of the lockdown.

February is where the Chinese government was starting to test all the Wuhan population massively.

From November to February, it's around 4 months (or 3 months if you want to assume that the start of the lockdown was the end of the spreading).


Compare it with New York...

Assuming that the first coronavirus came from China in January (more likely it was in the middle of January, but we will use the entire month).

Now is at the beginning of April, assuming it ends in March.

From January to March, it's 3 months.


Just like New York where the people are not wearing masks nor practicing social distancing for 3 months (January to March)...

In Wuhan from November to January is 4 months.

New York 3 months vs Wuhan 4 months.

It's the period where the spreading rate is at the maximum level because people don't wear masks nor practicing social distancing.

For the 3 vs 4 months, how can New York infection rate is much higher than Wuhan???


So, I can assume that in New York case, the spreading period is much longer than Wuhan to get this kind of widespread infection level.

The same case with Europe.

Based on this alone, I can make a conclusion that the virus is not originated from China.

From the same period of time, the place that has the highest rate of infection level is the origin of the virus.

Unless Chinese people are much cleaner than people in USA.

It's just a common logic and in reality, it is too.

Even thou if we assume that December is the month when the virus came from China to New York (earlier than January).

For the same 4 vs 4 months...

New York infection rate is still much higher than Wuhan.


If we try to push back to November...

It's impossible because November was the first time coronavirus appeared in Wuhan.

Even thou if we assume that December is the month when the virus came from China to New York (earlier than January).

For the same 4 vs 4 months...

New York infection rate is still much higher than Wuhan.


If we try to push back to November...

It's impossible because November was the first time coronavirus appeared in Wuhan.

Are all these things WHO mistake?

I don't think so.

Because WHO itself must depend on the report by the government of a country.

WHO doesn't have jurisdiction to direct investigate an outbreak unless they are allowed by the country government.

There is a procedure.


Because some country was not reporting the case in their country...

WHO did a mistake by thinking it was China alone that need to be watched.

Just as I said before, it's like closing the front door but forget to close the back door.


It probably came from USA... and Europe has a massive interaction with USA.

That's why Europe pandemic is more serious compare to China and China's neighbors.


If we use the same infection rate above for Europe cases.

We can also predict whatever coronavirus was first appeared in China or Europe, even compare it with USA.


I wonder if someone has the data on infection rate in Europe?

But I already can guess, under 3 or 4 months period, I don't think Europe can make it under 6% of Wuhan infection rate.

The number in some countries alone is higher than 80,000 and it's not yet over.

And this is just the beginning of April.

 

[Crusher]

This once again proves that chinese numbers related to coronavirus are fake.

 

[Menthol]

This once again proves that chinese numbers related to coronavirus are fake.

Even it's wrong...

The number of infected people in USA and Europe is much higher than Wuhan.

In the same maximum spreading period of time.

 

[52051]

This once again proves that chinese numbers related to coronavirus are fake.

Every single Chinese provinces besides Hubei, can control the disease with ease.

If you don't believe that, then:

Every single other Chinese dominated country/cities can control the disease with ease, all so-called democracy places, even Hong Kong can handle the disease when there are still chaos/rioters there.

If we push scope even further, every east Asian countries, save for South Korea, can control the disease with ease, even for South Korea, besides the initial outbreak, they can control the disease now.

There are reports like even oversea Chinese has lower infection rate comparing to the locals.

So believe whatever crazy-town stories, it wont make your situation any better, however it may make you sleep a little bit better

 

[ghazi52]

largest US emergency hospital


With 2,500 beds, the emergency hospital that has been set up in New York City's Javits Center is being described as the largest emergency field hospital everywhere in the US.

The hospital has been built by the Army Corp of Engineers and is being manned by camouflaged troops as well as city health workers.

Hospital beds are separated by dividing walls and curtainsImage caption: Hospital beds are separated by dividing walls and curtains

 

[riscol]

Anyone living in New York City or inside NY State should really be worried, the odds are stacked against you. Better get yourself tested.

 

[Cthulhu]

@IronHeart So this is not working, huh?

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

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The number in NYC is 50%+ positive rate, whilst in the entire NY state is 40% positive rate.

For comparsion, at the height of outbreak, Hubei, the epicenter in China, has a positive test rate of only 6%.

And most importantly, in NYC, they still use less reliable and cheap test kits for coronavirus test, there are typically 30% to 70% false-negative rates among these test kits, that's why to clear one case, they need to conduct multiple tests.

Whilst in Hubei, China used the far more accurate test by AI algorithms and CT image, which can do a test in a matter of mins with 96% accuracy.

Which suggests, 40% positive rate of NY state could be actually 60%-70%+ positive rate, comparing to 6% in Hubei at the height of the outbreak.

So basically the case in NYC is out of control, the test is far far away from accurate and sufficient, it will grow at exponential rate for a long time until everyone there get the virus

The America need to shutdown NYC completely from the outside world indefinitely right now to save the rest country from a total collapse if it is still possible.

That's why even the most optimistic scholar like Dr. Zhong Nanshan (chief doctor of CDC China) now believe the US is beyond help.

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- PRTP GWD

 

[opruh]

Lol, muricans should release real numbers of infected which is currently at millions already.

 

[casual]

Due to a lack of tests, NYC was only testing severely I'll patients who require hospitalization. Now there are more tests, those numbers should go down.