410m Indians living below poverty line

[fallstuff]

Threads like this have been discussed inside n out with no stone unturned, including but not limited to lack of toilets in India! Brother Al-Zakir does seem to feel the need for additional discussion !

 

[A.Rahman]

Atleast we dont have frequent terror attacks in schools,hospitals etc

The sooner those 18 RAW terrorist training centers on Afghan border close, the better

 

[desiman]

I'm saying that when you combine the TOTAL Populations of Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Afghanistan (all citizens of these countries rich, middle class, and poor) its even less than the number of Indians living below the poverty line.

Pakistan - Total population 170 million
Bangladesh - Total population 163 million
Afghanistan - Total population 29 million

Total: 362 million


Population of Indians living below the poverty line: 410 million


And still so many indians believe they will become superpower

Ohh there we go, now we can see whats really bugging a lot of people. They cant swallow the fact that India is rising and need to find petty statistics to somehow prove that India is still a failure. Well continue to live in your dream world and we shall see where we all are after 10 years. Time shall tell who becomes a superpower and who withers away into history.

 

[desiman]

I dont think 75% of indian population make only 410 million?
More than 75% Indians live below poverty line - To hide facts Indian government has arbitarily fixed poverty line at Rs 10 per dayOVERTY LINE definition, as per Government of India, see below for explanation, at Rs. 10 per day, per person, approx.

So your happy now then? India is doomed, does this make your Pakistan better in any way ? seriously these kinds of threads are really starting to become a nuisance here.

 

[yashchauhan]

This is the reason the data is skewed. $1.25 per day in India can provide a lot more than in other countries. Purchasing power parity or PPP hasn't been factored in while releasing these statistics.

As I an econmist by myself I want to highlight some facts...9and I have copied some statements from wiki for ref)

1.The World Bank estimates that 456 million Indians (42% of the total Indian population) now live under the global poverty line of $1.25 per day (PPP). This means that a third of the global poor now reside in India. However, this also represents a significant decline in poverty from the 60 percent level in 1981 to 42 percent in 2005, although the rupee has decreased in value since then, while the official standard of 538/356 rupees per month has remained the same.

2.This is Indian statistical data which is more accurate as it considers local cost of living ,government subsidies and inflation.


3.$1.25 per day may make a person poor in US or EU but in India its about Rs.70 per day now if there is a family of 5 that makes Rs.350($6.25/day) and this make about Rs. 10,500/month which by our cost of living and including various government schemes like free health,low cost food and various other schemes like if a girl child is born you get a Rs. 20,000 F.D. and in case a boy child you get Rs.1000 F.D. for 20 yrs and free education this amount is quite handsome and India stats are hence better.

4.Present stats indicate that Indian poverty hovers around 20% quite near to that of US(which uses its criteria for poverty).......and the so called increase mentioned in the articles is just the writer switching off from Indian stats in 2004 to WB stats of now!pitty

5.Major employers which also provide their employees and their families with greater health and financial cover:-(stand 5)
1.Indian railways:-16 million-total 16*5=80 million
2.Indian Armed forces:-4 million-4*5=20million(army,navy,air force,para military,territorial)
3.Indian police-12 million-12*5=60million
4.Indian IT-5.6 million -5.6*5-28 million...........so India has 80+20+60+28=228 million people forming strong middle class from these four sectors!
........companies use above stats to determine buying potential in a region so i ve used it!

 

[Omar1984]

As I an econmist by myself I want to highlight some facts...9and I have copied some statements from wiki for ref)

1.The World Bank estimates that 456 million Indians (42% of the total Indian population) now live under the global poverty line of $1.25 per day (PPP). This means that a third of the global poor now reside in India. However, this also represents a significant decline in poverty from the 60 percent level in 1981 to 42 percent in 2005, although the rupee has decreased in value since then, while the official standard of 538/356 rupees per month has remained the same.

2.This is Indian statistical data which is more accurate as it considers local cost of living ,government subsidies and inflation.


3.$1.25 per day may make a person poor in US or EU but in India its about Rs.70 per day now if there is a family of 5 that makes Rs.350($6.25/day) and this make about Rs. 10,500/month which by our cost of living and including various government schemes like free health,low cost food and various other schemes like if a girl child is born you get a Rs. 20,000 F.D. and in case a boy child you get Rs.1000 F.D. for 20 yrs and free education this amount is quite handsome and India stats are hence better.

4.Present stats indicate that Indian poverty hovers around 20% quite near to that of US(which uses its criteria for poverty).......and the so called increase mentioned in the articles is just the writer switching off from Indian stats in 2004 to WB stats of now!pitty

Wikipedia? I think Indian government edits Wikipedia pages just to make themselves feel better.

 

[secularguy]

37.2 per cent of population BPL, 10 crore families to get food security

P Vaidyanathan Iyer

Posted: Sunday , Apr 18, 2010 at 0331 hrs New Delhi:

For purposes of food security, the Planning Commission today finally accepted that the number of people living below the poverty line in India is 37.2 per cent of the total population.

The Plan panel, mandated by the empowered group of ministers chaired by Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee to finalise the BPL numbers, will now meet the secretaries of food and expenditure on Tuesday to calculate the cost of providing food security to so many poor.

The 37.2 per cent poverty line (that works out to 40.71 crore for 2004-05) is based on the methodology recommended by the Suresh Tendulkar committee that submitted its report to Planning Commission Deputy Chairman Montek Singh Ahluwalia in December 2009. The report is yet to be officially accepted by the Plan panel.

Besides technical issues of methodology, the report led to a sharp increase in the number of poor in India since 2004-05. But for the limited purposes of food security, the Planning Commission agreed to Tendulkar’s recommendations in an internal meeting of all members today.



The number of poor in 2004-05, as per the Plan panel’s own estimate released in March 2007, was estimated at 30.17 crore or 27.5 per cent of the total population. Were this number to be accepted as the BPL population, only 6.5 crore families would have got access to food security. But with the Plan panel accepting the Tendulkar report, about 10 crore families will benefit.

“Two different poverty lines — one for food security and the second for all other purposes — for one country sounds odd. But this has been the most expedient solution for the time being,” said an official who did not wish to be quoted. In fact, the eGoM was being urged by the Congress leadership to stick to the spirit of the party election promises made in the manifesto.

A note that was pushed by the Congress leadership and finally adopted by the eGoM specifically referred to the BPL numbers. “Whatever we do, we should not reduce coverage to below 10.8 crore families,” the note said. It said that while the Plan panel’s estimates of poverty could be the basis for identifying BPL families, the entitlements under Antyodaya Anna Yojana for the most vulnerable sections including single women, aged, urban homeless, street children, primitive tribal groups and destitutes should not have any numerical ceiling whatsoever.

In the run-up to the finalisation of the BPL numbers, so crucial to the proposed Food Security Act, there has been intense lobbying, with the Plan panel itself sharply divided. Despite attempts to stick to a lower BPL figure, the Plan panel has finally veered to accepting the Tendulkar committee recommendations that results in a much higher BPL population.

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37.2 per cent of population BPL, 10 crore families to get food security

 

[Omar1984]

Ohh there we go, now we can see whats really bugging a lot of people. They cant swallow the fact that India is rising and need to find petty statistics to somehow prove that India is still a failure. Well continue to live in your dream world and we shall see where we all are after 10 years. Time shall tell who becomes a superpower and who withers away into history.

Pakistanis are nothing like indians, mr desiman. We Pakistanis dont have silly dreams of being superpowers. We are realistic unlike indians who think their country where more than 400 million people are living below the poverty line, have no proper bathroom facilities like toilets will become superpower.


How can you even be a developed country with that large population living below poverty line and dont even have basic facilities like a toilet.

Forget about superpower. Do you indians even know how freakin large a population of 410 million is.