3rd aircraft carrier to be inducted by 2017: Antony

[Adux]

3rd aircraft carrier to be inducted by 2017: Antony


Manu PubbyPosted online: Thursday, May 17, 2007 at 0000 hrs Print Email

NEW DELHI, MAY 16: Defence Minister A K Antony has for the first time said on record that India would induct a third aircraft carrier by 2017 in addition to the Admiral Gorshkov and the indegenous Air Defence Ship (ADS). The minister said that the order for a third carrier — to be built by Cochin Shipyard Ltd — will be placed after construction of the ADS progresses "beyond a certain range".

"Induction of the third aircraft carrier is envisaged by 2017. At present, Cochin Shipyard Ltd, Kochi, is the only yard in the country that possesses the capability to undertake construction of such a ship," Antony said in a statement before the Rajya Sabha today. The Defence Minister was elaborating on the "action taken" on the recommendations of a parliamentary panel on defence.

While naval officers have for long stated that three aircraft carrier groups are essential to protect India's maritime interests, Antony has for the first time given a timeline for the induction of the additional carrier.

The Navy will get a refitted Admiral Gorshkov with its compliment of 16 MiG 29 K aircraft by 2010. The indigenous ADS will arrive only by 2014. India's sole carrier, INS Viraat, is scheduled for decommissioning in 2012.

Senior Navy officers said the order for the second carrier is likely to be placed around 2010, after the ADS has been launched from the Cochin Shipyard. "Once the ADS gets launched from the shipyard for further fittings, the order for the second carrier can be placed," an officer said.

With the induction of a second indigenous ship by 2017, the Indian Navy will for the first time operate three aircraft carriers. This would ensure the Navy has two operational carriers at any given point with the third one in for refits.

http://www.indianexpress.com/story/31148.html

 

[Adux]

Hmm, My prediction stand vindicated, Now by the time Aircraft carrier IAC-1 gets ready for fitting; you can learn about the Big News. Config of IAC-2 and IAC-3

 

[Adux]

Keyser,

I guess the timelines mentioned in the previous gorshkov thread are becoming true. Now i can stand vindicated when we hear about the config og IAC-2 and IAC-3. According to the article IAC-2 will start work, when IAC-1 will leave for fitting various electronics.
Now from my sources IAC-2 and IAC-3 will be a simulataneous construction and will have a different tonnage and propulsion. India plans to operate a 4 carrier fleet, with a East West and Indian Ocean Fleets and One in refit, from the information I have got. The rumour has been doing rounds for sometime. There is a talk modifying A&N Islands ready for some serious firepower including aircraft carriers of high tonnage. the Diego Garcia of India.

 

[A.Rahman]

I think they should stop buying carriers and start buying planes:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/St...not+pilots'

'Air Force hit by shortage of planes, not pilots'
At least 450 Indian Air Force pilots were performing ground duties as there were not enough planes to fly, a BBC report said on Tuesday.

"Classified documents available with the BBC show that out of the total cadre strength of nearly 2,500 pilots, at least 450 pilots were doing daily administrative and ground jobs that should be done by other staff," a BBC statement said.

According to BBC, the IAF currently has 790 serviceable aircraft comprising 340 fighters and 450 transports and helicopters.

An IAF officer, however, pointed out that quite a few fighters and the entire transport and helicopter fleet were twin-pilot aircraft.

"Even for the single pilot fighters, the pilot-cockpit ratio is not necessarily 1:1. Then, we have to cater for leaves, sickness and training. So the BBC logic could not exactly be correct," the officer spoke on condition of anonymity.

BBC said that it had documents to show that the serviceability of the entire IAF fleet was not more than 50 per cent - and by year 2010 the transport fleet would be reduced by nearly 40 per cent.
"It is also shown in the documents that the IAF, which has 34 squadrons at the moment, plans to reduce its squadrons over the next eight years. By 2013, the number of squadrons would be down to 28," BBC said.

Some of the pilots on ground duties said that their poor utilisation rate proved contrary to claims by IAF officers that pilots who had sought premature release could not be allowed to leave as it would create a shortage of pilots.

A pilot, who had served for more than 15 years and had been taken off flying duties, said, "Whatever the authorities might say, the fact is that the Air Force is overstaffed in terms of pilots. It was highlighted in the media that crores (millions of rupees) are spent on training a pilot. Then why are pilots doing desk jobs?

"We were not recruited and trained for clerical jobs. Since we are on the Air Force payroll, they think we could be made to do anything they like."

"In every air force station, you will find fully competent and medically fit pilots posted to various ground administrative jobs," said another pilot with a decade of experience.

"The average utilisation rate of pilots in terms of flying hours per month was around five to six hours a month, which was very low. The nation should know that pilots' unrest is not just about moving to greener pastures. It is about low utilisation rate, poor living conditions and a culture of favouritism."

Some of the pilots demanded introduction of public accountability in the armed forces, where they claimed senior officers were promoting "sycophancy".

 

[Keysersoze]

Keyser,

I guess the timelines mentioned in the previous gorshkov thread are becoming true. Now i can stand vindicated when we hear about the config og IAC-2 and IAC-3. According to the article IAC-2 will start work, when IAC-1 will leave for fitting various electronics.
Now from my sources IAC-2 and IAC-3 will be a simulataneous construction and will have a different tonnage and propulsion. India plans to operate a 4 carrier fleet, with a East West and Indian Ocean Fleets and One in refit, from the information I have got. The rumour has been doing rounds for sometime. There is a talk modifying A&N Islands ready for some serious firepower including aircraft carriers of high tonnage. the Diego Garcia of India.

There's many a slip twixt cup and a lip Adux. Article you posted does merely says that it will be ordered etc etc but as the old saying goes don't count your chickens before they hatch.

Also the article states 3 not four so .......

 

[Adux]

I know Keyser, This announcement wasnt expected, And i did say it was rumour. I heard Mazagon has submitted a modernization plans, so they can built heavier tonnage's.....Navy is moving out of that Port.
You can expect IAC-2 and IAC -3 on simulatneous built as per my source.

 

[Bull]

There's many a slip twixt cup and a lip Adux. Article you posted does merely says that it will be ordered etc etc but as the old saying goes don't count your chickens before they hatch.

Also the article states 3 not four so .......

Key, Adu had earlier stated in someother thread that IAC 2and IAC 3 would be buld which he came to know thru 'some sources'. Many including me didnt believe that. But now the defence minister has disclosed the plan to build IAC 2. So probably the reminder of what Adu said also should be tru regarding IAC3 and a 4 carrier navy.

 

[Keysersoze]

Key, Adu had earlier stated in someother thread that IAC 2and IAC 3 would be buld which he came to know thru 'some sources'. Many including me didnt believe that. But now the defence minister has disclosed the plan to build IAC 2. So probably the reminder of what Adu said also should be tru regarding IAC3 and a 4 carrier navy.

Well it was hardly "news" I have books from 10-15 years ago stating India's Intention to have a 3 carrier navy. However It remains to be seen whether there is going to be a 4th carrier.

 

[alamgir]

I know Keyser, This announcement wasnt expected, And i did say it was rumour. I heard Mazagon has submitted a modernization plans, so they can built heavier tonnage's.....Navy is moving out of that Port.
You can expect IAC-2 and IAC -3 on simulatneous built as per my source.

50 tonn arjun take more then thirty years then how much time will need mulity thousend tonn carrier

 

[con]

50 tonn arjun take more then thirty years then how much time will need mulity thousend tonn carrier

What do you think? How long is it gonna take?

 

[alamgir]

What do you think? How long is it gonna take?

complicated question need some one good in math

 

[Bull]

Well it was hardly "news" I have books from 10-15 years ago stating India's Intention to have a 3 carrier navy. However It remains to be seen whether there is going to be a 4th carrier.

Those intentions have been confirmed by the defence minsiter and thats why its 'news'.