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3 Pakistan Navy personnel martyred in Gwadar helicopter crash

A) Bring proof

B) Why doesn’t Pakistani media call fallen awaam of car accidents “shaheeds”? Are faujeets more holy?
No they don't but they sacrificed more than common people of Pakistan I mean common soldiers
 
No they don't but they sacrificed more than common people of Pakistan I mean common soldiers

No we’re the same, faujeets aren’t above anyone. On the Day of Judgement, we’re going to be looked as the same.
 
No we’re the same, faujeets aren’t above anyone. On the Day of Judgement, we’re going to be looked as the same.
They made up our mind that they are above the people of Pakistan, and we blindly obey this
 
They made up our mind that they are above the people of Pakistan, and we blindly obey this

So Faujeet favoritism continues in Day of Judgement?
 
So Faujeet favoritism continues in Day of Judgement?
Why you think there is no favoritism in the day of judgement lol
 
Junior officers remain quiet so citizen of Pakistan will also remain quiet

Excellent post!
 
Why you think there is no favoritism in the day of judgement lol

Show me where in Islam where it says faujeets will get favorable treatment lol
 
Show me where in Islam where it says faujeets will get favorable treatment lol
Did Islam say that??? Since the beginning of Islam army men and common people were treated as a equal citizens
 
Did Islam say that??? Since the beginning of Islam army men and common people were treated as a equal citizens

Exactly so that refers to my original points.
 
The Copter tail rotter section disintegrated. Would not be surprised Pakistani Military infrastructure is being used well beyond its life to the point where structural integrity is begin to creep in, combined with shortcuts and corruption in maintenance.

From thin skinned vehicles, to weak processes & controls, to poor fire base support and design, poor tactics, we should not be surprised that Pak Military is not as fit a fighting force as it once was or is made to believe.
We see abject failure after failure on so many levels but no one is held accountable at a high enough level for things to change.
 
Has the Sea King fleet been grounded?
 
PN always neglects its rotary wing

we operate that silly looking 1960s Lama and those Z9C with the F22Ps are way too short legged

Sea King too old and I mean way too old

now we are getting 4 x MILGEM and 4 x Type 054A/P + 4 x OPV thats 12 warships and yet no rotary wing in sight

we desperately need to get small and medium sized helicopters

Z-8LJ is now available and its a large naval helicopter with range which could replace all the Sea Kings

for warships we can consider the Z20J
 
PN always neglects its rotary wing

we operate that silly looking 1960s Lama and those Z9C with the F22Ps are way too short legged

Sea King too old and I mean way too old

now we are getting 4 x MILGEM and 4 x Type 054A/P + 4 x OPV thats 12 warships and yet no rotary wing in sight

we desperately need to get small and medium sized helicopters

Z-8LJ is now available and its a large naval helicopter with range which could replace all the Sea Kings

for warships we can consider the Z20J

Negative, the ships mentioned don't have enough room (landing area) to accommodate Z20Js.

In my opinion, the best option is AW149 as our PAA & PAF are already operating the member of same family (AW139) hence upkeep wouldn't be a problem in this situation.

Below would be ideal for our surface fleet:

12 - AW 139/149s (For Tughril & Jinnah FFGs)
12 - Z9C/Ds (For Babur/Zulfiqar & Yarmook FFGs/OPVs)
12 - Z8G/Ls (For Fleet tankers & coastal activities)
 
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Sea King too old and I mean way too old
Marine One is a Sea King.
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