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Today MQM leader Khalid Maqbool Siddiqui cursed 18th Amendment. MQM was the mastermind with PPP / Raza Rabbani pass this bill overnight. This bill is sword for small parties in the provinces, because majority party takes all NFC award money and small parties like little dog , who watch something fall from the mouth of big dog and they enjoy the day.
If that time MQM don't vote that bill, situation would be totally in favor of MQM or small parties.
 
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MQM at that time had its hands and pockets full with "bhatta". Hence they didn't care about 18th amendment. Now that "Bhatta khori" has stopped; they are crying about 18th amendment. MQM is a terrorist party and it should be treated as a terrorist group and should be banned completely.
 
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18th was designed outside of Paksitan...part of muk-muka i.e. Charter of Dimmocrazy!

It has essentially turned Pakistan into confederation...with each province having its own educational system to standards for health care....to agro policy....

It was designed to make the Federation totally paralysed and burdened with debt which Noora and Zaradri Regime created as part of EconomicHitmen Agenda i.e EconomicTerrorism.

How can we have a unified PakNation when at schools kids are being taught differently?

We need a new system with direct elections for the Chief Executive and turning each division into either province or administrative unit with direct elections of the executive...

Alll laws must be passed by National Assembly... education, health and major/fundamental infrastructure must be under Federal control...following National Development Plan...

The side effect of 18th was that provinces got all the money
...so that CriminalEnterprise could loot with abandon...which both NarcoLeague and GhardariLeague did without thinking of tomorrow...

New Constituition and New Strong Federal System... and Karachi needs to become Federal again...otherwise, Karachi shall remain under the occupation of Economic-Social Terrorists!!!!
Now need 2/3 majority to reverse this bill. MQM better dissolve and join PPP, if they need some progress in Karachi. Otherwise PPP has no interest in development of Karachi. In fact PPP has no interest in Sindh. Only interest celebrate Sindh culture day or every year wake up Bhutto.
 
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I have an inkling that the Establishment is planning to get rid of the undesirable parts of the 18TH Constitutional amendment, through the current parliament. May be, the forced current political consensus on the amendments in the laws, related to armed forces, was some sort of net practice.:lol:
 
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I have an inkling that the Establishment is planning to get rid of the undesirable parts of the 18TH Constitutional amendment, through the current parliament. May be, the forced current political consensus on the amendments in the laws, related to armed forces, was some sort of net practice.:lol:
I hope it comes to pass. PPP has been using 18th Amendment to tie noose around Karachi's neck.

Now need 2/3 majority to reverse this bill. MQM better dissolve and join PPP, if they need some progress in Karachi. Otherwise PPP has no interest in development of Karachi. In fact PPP has no interest in Sindh. Only interest celebrate Sindh culture day or every year wake up Bhutto.
If PPP had any interest in anything other than loot and plunder then Sukkur and Larkhana won't be bigger sh!tholes than even Karachi. Leken for Sindhis, Bhutto kal bhi zinda tha aj bhi zinda hai.
 
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For me Also the 18 amendment is a curse for Pakistan because it divide us into ethnicity.

Just read my whole comment , i hope you can have better understanding.

After 18 amendment 16 departments were transferred from federal government to provincial governments under the 18th Amendment with No further checking authority of federation on the performance of provincial govt. The abolition weakened the federation without necessarily strengthening the provinces.

Few Departments For example
1. Education

Education was one subject devolved at the provincial level. This was done without thinking through that a) whether the provinces are equipped in terms of teachers, infrastructure, educationalists, etc, to develop courses and other related necessary base needed to take advantage and implement this devolution and b) whether all provinces equally have the aforementioned basic variables in place failing which this inclusion would inevitably lead to unequal standard of education in different provinces leading to disadvantage of those provinces lagging behind in many fields CSS being only one of them.


Article 25A was inserted into the constitution: “Right to education: The state shall provide free and compulsory education to all children of the age of five to 16 years in such manner as may be determined by law.” The question stands vindicated by a report that states, “ provincial governments has yet to introduce mechanisms for the implementation of the Article.” The direction to be given by a cohesive national, united ideology may/can be/has been compromised.

2. Health
The 18th Amendment created havoc in Pakistan by regulating health to provinces with no checking authority. The provinces are/were ill equipped to handle this critical area of social wellbeing and service to people. “The Drug Act of 1976, the law regulating pharmaceutical sector in the country, and the regulatory structures formed under it for registration, manufacturing, quality assurance of medicines and adjudication of contraventions, etc, also does not exist anymore under the 18th Amendment.”

Pakistan’s markets sell fake pills, capsules, tablets, and syrups of all types, for every type of ailment, according to a report by CNN.

When Yousuf Raza Gilani was the prime minister, the World Health Organisation (WHO) expressed concerns over the devolution of the ministry of health to the provinces via a letter.

Conclusion:
The implementation of the18th amendment required substantial changes in the existing legal, regulatory and policy frameworks on devolved and shared subjects. About 48 federal laws were identified which needed amendments to reflect the intent of the 18th amendment. Rules of Business at federal and provincial levels have been amended and a number of critical issues have been resolved. However, some crucial issues still remain unsettled because of the lack of political will, policy disconnects and the absence of evidence-based strategies hampering the pace and process of transition management.

When responsibilities were signed away by the federation without the infrastructure and mechanisms in place, the 18th amendment compromised the national interests on many levels.

Provincial autonomy and inclusiveness in governance should be the corner stone of a successful political dispensation. One can argue in favour of provincial autonomy however sans the mechanisms needed to make it work, minus the clarity in policies, route of operational funding, minus the skills in different fields needed to deliver, minus the will to bring it together at both provincial and federal levels, it is always bound to fail.

It would have been better had the learned minds instead of getting rid of 16 departments in one go had transferred this in phases, smoothing out the teething problems systematically as these brilliant minds went along instead of creating a mess.

PTI should put the house in order on this front, but the fact is it will face with a strong opposition, even if a revisit is sought, one doubts anything much will come of it. Which pretty much leaves us with a constitution based on Act of India 1935, the Articles included and changed by Gen Zia and the 18th Amendment all joining together to create a recipe for disastrous governance.

Let me do this:
Pseudo intellectual PPP and haramkhor zalildari ruined the very basic system even health and education and it will further ruin.
 
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I have an inkling that the Establishment is planning to get rid of the undesirable parts of the 18TH Constitutional amendment, through the current parliament. May be, the forced current political consensus on the amendments in the laws, related to armed forces, was some sort of net practice.:lol:
spot on. It Shall happen. Armed forces of Pakistan does not like 18th amendment one bit. It is a slow poison for this country.
 
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Sindhis will take care of the problems of their province. You Indians don't need to worry.
Urdu speakers in pakistan are not indians. They are equal citizen of pakistan as others.
Kindy dont pass any statment that can even harm the soul of a person, believe me this statement hurt so much.
 
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These sindhis, them sindhis like those calling them this and these are Yankees and then someone went complete psychotic to call fellow paakis, Indians :crazy:
 
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spot on. It Shall happen. Armed forces of Pakistan does not like 18th amendment one bit. It is a slow poison for this country.

18thr ammendment is good in essence however with the resurrection of the colonial DC system post 2008 it was bound to fail as the chief ministers are not transferring funds at district level and shall not for obvious reasons.

We suffer from Khottaism!

It is an accute and ancient disease... only education, education and more education... and for that we need to build our economy delivered by Performance Based Democracy!!!

I find such comments extremely painful... feel helpless!

I find it quite ridiculous when someone tries to assert their indispensability over all others and think he's out of this world. Everyone freaking know your place.
 
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Urdu speakers in pakistan are not indians. They are equal citizen of pakistan as others.
Kindy dont pass any statment that can even harm the soul of a person, believe me this statement hurt so much.


With the way things are going, one day my descendants will need to apply for a Visa to visit our only port city which connects us to the outside world.
 
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