100m immigrants needed to save aging Chinese workforce

[Bussard Ramjet]

100m immigrants needed to save aging Chinese workforce

China must open its doors to up to 100 million young immigrants from Africa and Southeast Asia to address the country's aging workforce, according to a researcher with China's State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission (SASAC).

China's rapidly aging population, a product of the country's one-child policy, has become one of the government's biggest headaches. While Beijing has eased the national birth control policy in recent years, economic constraints have so far prevented a new baby boom.

The Chinese tradition of preferring boys to girls has also led to a gross gender imbalance in the population, with estimates that 30 million Chinese men will not be able to find a female partner by 2020.

Based on the sixth National Population Census in 2010, only 16.6% of the country's population was aged 0-14, less than half of the statistic in 1982. Research by the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences found that before 2020, China's working population will fall by 1.55 million people per year. From 2020 to 2030, the working population will drop by 7.9 million people a year, eventually leading to a total decrease of 250 million workers by 2050.

Luo Tianhao, a researcher for the SASAC's Business Technology Assessment Center, says China's over-60s will account for 30% of the entire population by 2050, resulting in a significant shrinkage of youth labor that will have a devastating impact on the economy.

Luo says he has also additional concerns that the actual size of China's workforce has already been overstated, having once read a report stating that there are at least several tens of millions of middle-aged people in China unwilling to work or find employment.

Accordingly, Luo says that over the next 20 years, the government must decisively promote having children and "tolerate" mass immigration of up to 100 million people from African and Southeast Asian countries. Beijing has no choice but to choose this path, Luo said, adding that this would make China the country with the second-most immigrants in the world behind the United States.

The purpose of such an approach is utilize the young resources of those countries to effectively feed China's seniors, Luo said, noting that he does not believe young Chinese people will be disadvantaged from the policy because of the country's high university enrollment rate.

100m immigrants needed to save aging Chinese workforce｜Society｜News｜WantChinaTimes.com

 

[Azizam]

Or robots..........

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

Or robots..........

This is one of problems with you guys.

Robots are NO WAY NEAR HUMAN CAPABILITY.

Robots are still far inferior than a moderately trained and educated Human, and this will remain this way for a long long time. The power of the human brain is actually immense. Scientists still wonder at its sophistication.

So, NO. Robots and Robotics, while important, will still play a complementary role with humans. Like today's technology. In no time in history of human race, have humans been more in number, better in living conditions, and capable of producing more, thanks to augmentation using education and technology.

This whole AUTOMATION will take over our jobs, is essentially load of crap. What will indeed happen, is that some jobs may become obsolete, but new avenues will open. Human talent and capability is immense, and robots are no way near matching a lot of those skills.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

WantChinaTimes, lol.

Next we'll be getting articles from the Epoch Times.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

WantChinaTimes, lol.

Next we'll be getting articles from the Epoch Times.

I know the people here are sceptical of Want China times.

For your benefit, I have cross checked and there is indeed a researcher at SASAC, who has proposed this.

Also, Epoch Times is simply a China-bashing paper. I have checked a lot of articles on Want, and they are pretty good source. Since, due to people here, even I have grown sceptical, I usually check independently, and usually the news is right.

Why does Want have such a reputation here? Care to Explain?

 

[TaiShang]

Ignore the Indian.

He is on it again.

That's the best answer.

 

[Azizam]

This is one of problems with you guys.

Robots are NO WAY NEAR HUMAN CAPABILITY.

Robots are still far inferior than a moderately trained and educated Human, and this will remain this way for a long long time. The power of the human brain is actually immense. Scientists still wonder at its sophistication.

So, NO. Robots and Robotics, while important, will still play a complementary role with humans. Like today's technology. In no time in history of human race, have humans been more in number, better in living conditions, and capable of producing more, thanks to augmentation using education and technology.

This whole AUTOMATION will take over our jobs, is essentially load of crap. What will indeed happen, is that some jobs may become obsolete, but new avenues will open. Human talent and capability is immense, and robots are no way near matching a lot of those skills.

Not true. Automation is already taking over many jobs. Many factories nowadays use automation systems rather than workers and emerging technologies like 3D printing will further replace many more jobs. The idea of robot in your mind is not accurate. I think when you are thinking about a robot, what comes to your mind is something similar to what's in terminator but in reality something as simple as an automated handler can be called as a robot.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

Ignore the Indian.

He is on it again.

That's the best answer.

What am I on? I just posted an article about the research work of a SASAC researcher. that is THE highest policy framing body in China.

I haven't even commented on this piece of news.

I don't know what you have against me really.

Not true. Automation is already taking over many jobs. Many factories nowadays use automation systems rather than workers and emerging technologies like 3D printing will further replace many more jobs. The idea of robot in your mind is not accurate. I think when you are thinking about a robot, what comes to your mind is something similar to what's in terminator but in reality something as simple as an automated handler can be called as a robot.

That's why I'm saying. You have NO idea. While yes, they are taking some jobs, but that is always the case. Do you want to assemble basic parts all your life?

People like you crying over then taking our jobs, are similar to the ones crying during the European Industrial Revolution. There were many people then, complaining how machines are overtaking our jobs, and we will eventually be overtaken. Didn't turn out like that did it?

 

[Ind4Ever]

Don't worry guys !!! Am here to do a favour ... How many kids you want ?

We can produce loooooooots of intellectual products . Like a hot Chocolate latae

Indian with their population dividend lol.

The funny thing about these population statistics is the assumption that a 50 year old worker is unproductive vs a 25 year old worker....which is BS.
It's like oh shit, you just hit 50, you can't do your job anymore! How ridiculous

And you know why there is an employment issue in Europe and north America? People working until 70, they keep bringing in massive immigrants each year to fill jobs that are not there, and the young people cannot get jobs because the old folks don't want to retire. That is counterproductive.

With 16% below 16 is alarming rate !!! Don't you think ? how many girl child in this ? Now calculate you gamdma grandpa population . End of the day u need to shift some of your manufacturing base to india .

We can do give you some good offer more beneficial !!!

 

[Genesis]

This is one of problems with you guys.

Robots are NO WAY NEAR HUMAN CAPABILITY.

Robots are still far inferior than a moderately trained and educated Human, and this will remain this way for a long long time. The power of the human brain is actually immense. Scientists still wonder at its sophistication.

So, NO. Robots and Robotics, while important, will still play a complementary role with humans. Like today's technology. In no time in history of human race, have humans been more in number, better in living conditions, and capable of producing more, thanks to augmentation using education and technology.

This whole AUTOMATION will take over our jobs, is essentially load of crap. What will indeed happen, is that some jobs may become obsolete, but new avenues will open. Human talent and capability is immense, and robots are no way near matching a lot of those skills.

You have not seen the latest in robotics. Robots cannot replace people, that's a fact for now, but robots can replace the 100 million this article suggest.

In the end it may not fill all the needs, and we do need some immigration, but it's no where near 100 million.

As a side note, immigration in China is already happening, though much reform is still needed. For one thing, don't even have an anti discrimination law, that puts us at the same level as the Italians.

 

[sicsheep]

1, we have 30 years experience manufacturing for western countries. not only we are the biggest, we are the most efficient manufacture.

2, we have monopoly on manufacturing ecosystem, when every component is produced locally, it doesn't make sense to move away the assembly line.

3, we have most major ports in the world and they are all pretty close to the US

maybe if US and EU consumption goes down will impact our export, but we are not worried anyone can replace us.

 

[TheTruth]

Immigrants will simply take advantage of Chinese hospitality and kindness to foreigners, and spit on the people and culture. Has no one learned anything from 2,000 years of history? Someone should investigate that "researcher".

 

[tranquilium]

I know the people here are sceptical of Want China times.

For your benefit, I have cross checked and there is indeed a researcher at SASAC, who has proposed this.

Also, Epoch Times is simply a China-bashing paper. I have checked a lot of articles on Want, and they are pretty good source. Since, due to people here, even I have grown sceptical, I usually check independently, and usually the news is right.

Why does Want have such a reputation here? Care to Explain?

It is a Taiwan paper which has made quite a few unbelievable claims in the past and frankly some of the claims are plain insults to people's intelligence.

For the sake of discussion, here is a few things on the aging population issue.

First, aging population is a world wide phenomenon for countries with good economic development. This is because good economic development typically require a working population that requires longer time and more expensive to train, this lead families to naturally have less children. The better economic development also means longer life expectancy, thus more old people. China does have to gradually face the problem of an aging population, but to be honest, this is really no worse than what dozens of other countries have already faced.

Second, China still have more cushion space for aging population issue. For example, the current retirement age in China ranges from 50 to 60, where typical retirement age in western countries are 65. The percentage of old people in China is also significantly lower, comparing to countries like Japan and Germany. (This is partially because the biggest population boom in the past century around the world is the 50s, where the ending of WWII led to a great increase in birthrate. However, China's population control policies did not come into effect until 1970s, thus giving China about two more decades than its western counterparts.)

Third, China is already transforming its industry to include more automation and higher efficiency. In fact, the transformation started more than a decade ago, long before these articles jump on the "aging population train".

Fourth, these articles constantly make the assumption that China would not change its policy in accordance to its need. For example, the article constantly harp on population control, despite the fact the family planning policy in China has been changed for a few years already. This is like saying "You are driving on a mountain road. You will be running off a cliff if you don't turn the driving wheel". It is technically true, but at the same time utterly pointless.

And this is not the first of such articles from wantchinatimes or epochtime, nor would it be the last.

 

[KAL-EL]

Don't worry guys !!! Am here to do a favour ... How many kids you want ?

We can produce loooooooots of intellectual products . Like a hot Chocolate latae

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

"Hot intellectual products"?