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Don't be a moron.

You can get bullets in Wal-Mart here in Canada. Just because there are laws here it doesn't mean it's hard for gun owners, not even close. Trust me, nobody wants to be like Pakistan where militants walk around with machine guns on their shoulders. I guess if you come from that society, you must think Canada/Sweden/Norway etc... are strict. In reality these countries are some of the most gun loving nations on earth.
your quick to make judgements….. you can probably get bullets for a hunting rifle from walmart in canada thats about it…
i grew up in america so compared to america getting guns are hard in the countries i mentioned.. especially the european ones..
canadian gun laws are one of the strictest in the world..

let me just ask you why did you bring pakistan into this? did i say anything about iran or canada that is bad?? why are you bad mouthing my country for no reason?
 
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your quick to make judgements….. you can probably get bullets for a hunting rifle from walmart in canada thats about it…
i grew up in america so compared to america getting guns are hard in the countries i mentioned.. especially the european ones..
canadian gun laws are one of the strictest in the world..

let me just ask you why did you bring pakistan into this? did i say anything about iran or canada that is bad?? why are you bad mouthing my country for no reason?
Because that's where your perspective is coming from. Look at the disgusting shit you're saying. Your definition of "strict" is having laws that correctly limit the types of weapons a person can have in his/her possession.

It's your American and Pakistani upbringing that has made you think the way you do. My Iranian and Canadian upbringing has made me understand the importance of gun laws.

Anyway, I said you're being stupid for a reason. 1/4 of all Canadians have a registered weapon!!! That's ONE OUT OF EVERY FOUR people. Canada is one gun loving country. Just b/c we're not fucking retards and don't allow people to carry handguns and machine guns, it doesn't make the laws strict. As far as I'm concerned they are WAY too lenient.

Let's look at some of these so called strict laws:

1) No handguns - fantastic, unless you're a cop or a criminal you don't need a handgun in your possession

2) No concealed or open carry - again, if you're not a cop or a criminal, you don't need a fucking weapon to carry around. Buy a knife if you're so paranoid and get some common sense while you're at it.

3) You can only fire weapons at a range - fantastic law. We live in a modern civil society. Outside of conflict zones, USA and 3rd world free-for-alls, nobody wants to see idiots practicing their shots outside of a range, whether it's their own property or not.

Liberals are on their way to winning the next general elections in Canada. We've had the conservatives in charge for too long here and they relaxed some of the gun laws. I'm hoping that they tighten them more when they come to power.

Shooting for recreation is fine, but you can only do it in a gun range and that's it. You must not be able to have a functioning weapon outside of range under any circumstance, unless you have a hunting rifle, and even then you must disable the weapon prior to storage and transportation.
 
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Harvard Study: Gun Control Is Counterproductive

I've just learned that Washington, D.C.'s petition for a rehearing of the Parker case in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit was denied today. This is good news. Readers will recall in this case that the D.C. Circuit overturned the decades-long ban on gun ownership in the nation's capitol on Second Amendment grounds.

However, as my colleague Peter Ferrara explained in his National Review Online article following the initial decision in March, it looks very likely that the United States Supreme Court will take the case on appeal. When it does so - beyond seriously considering the clear original intent of the Second Amendment to protect an individual's right to armed self-defense - the justices of the U.S. Supreme Court would be wise to take into account the findings of a recent study out of Harvard.

The study, which just appeared in Volume 30, Number 2 of the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy (pp. 649-694), set out to answer the question in its title: "Would Banning Firearms Reduce Murder and Suicide? A Review of International and Some Domestic Evidence." Contrary to conventional wisdom, and the sniffs of our more sophisticated and generally anti-gun counterparts across the pond, the answer is "no." And not just no, as in there is no correlation between gun ownership and violent crime, but an emphatic no, showing a negative correlation: as gun ownership increases, murder and suicide decreases.

The findings of two criminologists - Prof. Don Kates and Prof. Gary Mauser - in their exhaustive study of American and European gun laws and violence rates, are telling:

Nations with stringent anti-gun laws generally have substantially higher murder rates than those that do not. The study found that the nine European nations with the lowest rates of gun ownership (5,000 or fewer guns per 100,000 population) have a combined murder rate three times higher than that of the nine nations with the highest rates of gun ownership (at least 15,000 guns per 100,000 population).

For example, Norway has the highest rate of gun ownership in Western Europe, yet possesses the lowest murder rate. In contrast, Holland's murder rate is nearly the worst, despite having the lowest gun ownership rate in Western Europe. Sweden and Denmark are two more examples of nations with high murder rates but few guns. As the study's authors write in the report:

If the mantra "more guns equal more death and fewer guns equal less death" were true, broad cross-national comparisons should show that nations with higher gun ownership per capita consistently have more death. Nations with higher gun ownership rates, however, do not have higher murder or suicide rates than those with lower gun ownership. Indeed many high gun ownership nations have much lower murder rates. (p. 661)
Finally, and as if to prove the bumper sticker correct - that "gun don't kill people, people do" - the study also shows that Russia's murder rate is four times higher than the U.S. and more than 20 times higher than Norway. This, in a country that practically eradicated private gun ownership over the course of decades of totalitarian rule and police state methods of suppression. Needless to say, very few Russian murders involve guns.

The important thing to keep in mind is not the rate of deaths by gun - a statistic that anti-gun advocates are quick to recite - but the overall murder rate, regardless of means. The criminologists explain:

[P]er capita murder overall is only half as frequent in the United States as in several other nations where gunmurder is rarer, but murder by strangling, stabbing, or beating is much more frequent. (p. 663 - emphases in original)
It is important to note here that Profs. Kates and Mauser are not pro-gun zealots. In fact, they go out of their way to stress that their study neither proves that gun control causes higher murder rates nor that increased gun ownershipnecessarily leads to lower murder rates. (Though, in my view, Prof. John Lott's More Guns, Less Crime does indeed prove the latter.) But what is clear, and what they do say, is that gun control is ineffectual at preventing murder, and apparently counterproductive.

Not only is the D.C. gun ban ill-conceived on constitutional grounds, it fails to live up to its purpose. If the astronomical murder rate in the nation's capitol, in comparison to cities where gun ownership is permitted, didn't already make that fact clear, this study out of Harvard should.

Harvard Study: Gun Control Is Counterproductive | The American Civil Rights Union
 
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lol only in murica ^^^

Edit: this video takes a poo on the above so called study

 
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Don't be a moron.

You can get bullets in Wal-Mart here in Canada. Just because there are laws here it doesn't mean it's hard for gun owners, not even close. Trust me, nobody wants to be like Pakistan where militants walk around with machine guns on their shoulders. I guess if you come from that society, you must think Canada/Sweden/Norway etc... are strict. In reality these countries are some of the most gun loving nations on earth.

Guns are part of local culture in Pakistan. Not only militants carry them freely.
 
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Guns are part of local culture in Pakistan. Not only militants carry them freely.
That was my point. His perspective is coming from a pakistani upbringing, thus he thinks Canada is strict.
 
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Don't be a moron.

You can get bullets in Wal-Mart here in Canada. Just because there are laws here it doesn't mean it's hard for gun owners, not even close. Trust me, nobody wants to be like Pakistan where militants walk around with machine guns on their shoulders. I guess if you come from that society, you must think Canada/Sweden/Norway etc... are strict. In reality these countries are some of the most gun loving nations on earth.
Even peaceful people can walk around slinging machine guns as it is in US or any other nation...The Pashtun clan over the centuries have lived this way and they're never gonna compromise on this ...there are laws in Pakistan too ...but every 2nd home has a gun or two...people are having licenses as well ...as for militants are concerned ...out laws are everywhere ...not in Pakistan only ...
 
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Because that's where your perspective is coming from. Look at the disgusting shit you're saying. Your definition of "strict" is having laws that correctly limit the types of weapons a person can have in his/her possession.
you should watch your mouth, i haven't said anything disrespectful… you won't like me when i start talking shit.. because when i get done with you will want to stick you head in your *** and never come out.

It's your American and Pakistani upbringing that has made you think the way you do. My Iranian and Canadian upbringing has made me understand the importance of gun laws.
yeah its my pakistan and american upbringing… in america and pakistan my safety is always in my hands besides the cops.. i can have a handgun and protect my property and my family when ever there is a threat… i don't need to wait for 20 mins for the cops to to my house while I'm being robbed or if a murderer breaks into my house..


Anyway, I said you're being stupid for a reason.
1/4 of all Canadians have a registered weapon!!! That's ONE OUT OF EVERY FOUR people. Canada is one gun loving country. Just b/c we're not fucking retards and don't allow people to carry handguns and machine guns, it doesn't make the laws strict. As far as I'm concerned they are WAY too lenient.
who gives a crap about an hunting rifle??? 1 /4 canadians have hunting rifles because you would get mauled by bears if they didn't…


1) No handguns - fantastic, unless you're a cop or a criminal you don't need a handgun in your possession
why not???
why shouldn't i be able to have a hand gun and protect me and my family?
2) No concealed or open carry - again, if you're not a cop or a criminal, you don't need a fucking weapon to carry around. Buy a knife if you're so paranoid and get some common sense while you're at it.
so if your on a road trip and all of sudden somebody crashes into you and they become hostile and have a knife… and try to stab you. what would you do in canada? take it like a bitch… but in america if i had my hand gun which i always do, i would shoot that fucker in the face..
3) You can only fire weapons at a range - fantastic law. We live in a modern civil society. Outside of conflict zones, USA and 3rd world free-for-alls, nobody wants to see idiots practicing their shots outside of a range, whether it's their own property or not.
yeah its a fantastic law for canada…. but in america we have the freedom to carry it where ever we want.. there is a reason america is a superpower and canada….well canada.


Liberals are on their way to winning the next general elections in Canada. We've had the conservatives in charge for too long here and they relaxed some of the gun laws. I'm hoping that they tighten them more when they come to power.
don't give a crap about your canadian politics…
Shooting for recreation is fine, but you can only do it in a gun range and that's it. You must not be able to have a functioning weapon outside of range under any circumstance, unless you have a hunting rifle, and even then you must disable the weapon prior to storage and transportation.
why??? i just don't get that…
criminals will always be able to get weapons to do their crimes… these gun laws are restricting ordinary citizens from being able to defend themselves , their families and properties… these laws do nothing but restrict the freedoms of law abiding citizens.. because your not restricting it for criminals because they will always find a weapon..


 
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you should watch your mouth, i haven't said anything disrespectful… you won't like me when i start talking shit.. because when i get done with you will want to stick you head in your *** and never come out.


yeah its my pakistan and american upbringing… in america and pakistan my safety is always in my hands besides the cops.. i can have a handgun and protect my property and my family when ever there is a threat… i don't need to wait for 20 mins for the cops to to my house while I'm being robbed or if a murderer breaks into my house..


Anyway, I said you're being stupid for a reason.
who gives a crap about an hunting rifle??? 1 /4 canadians have hunting rifles because you would get mauled by bears if they didn't…



why not???
why shouldn't i be able to have a hand gun and protect me and my family?

so if your on a road trip and all of sudden somebody crashes into you and they become hostile and have a knife… and try to stab you. what would you do in canada? take it like a bitch… but in america if i had my hand gun which i always do, i would shoot that fucker in the face..

yeah its a fantastic law for canada…. but in america we have the freedom to carry it where ever we want.. there is a reason america is a superpower and canada….well canada.



don't give a crap about your canadian politics…

why??? i just don't get that…
criminals will always be able to get weapons to do their crimes… these gun laws are restricting ordinary citizens from being able to defend themselves , their families and properties… these laws do nothing but restrict the freedoms of law abiding citizens.. because your not restricting it for criminals because they will always find a weapon..
What a load of 3rd world horse manure.

Let's end this discussion. You grew up in a society where everything and everyone wants to kill you. I didn't. I don't need to protect myself and I don't want a society where every idiot can own a weapon. As I said, 1/4 of Canadians own guns. That's a lot of weapons, but we have laws, background checks etc...
 
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What a load of 3rd world horse manure.

Let's end this discussion. You grew up in a society where everything and everyone wants to kill you. I didn't. I don't need to protect myself and I don't want a society where every idiot can own a weapon. As I said, 1/4 of Canadians own guns. That's a lot of weapons, but we have laws, background checks etc...
i thought you might want to end the discussion lol….
i know i made points you can't counter…
 
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i thought you might want to end the discussion lol….
i know i made points you can't counter…
Of course I can't. This afternoon Mohsenam was saying humans came to be only 6000 years ago. I also can't counter that. For a discussion to take place, both sides need to have logic.

You have a hard time understanding logic. In a violent society, more weapons, of any kind, only worsen the situation. In countries like Somalia, Yemen, Iraq and Pakistan, every household has a weapon. All 4 are examples of failed societies where the central government is almost non-existent. Things are so sour in these countries that the only way to survive is to join in and become part of the problem.

USA is the most violent society in the developed world. Guns and knives and weapons of all kind only add to the problem. You keep telling me about personal safety, freedom this and freedom that and a violent society where you and your family could apparently be gunned down at any second for no reason, but you fail to realize that you're part of the issue. It's your society that needs to be fixed. More guns will create more problems.

There's a reason people in Canada don't need weapons. It's the same reason people in Denmark, Germany and a million other developed countries don't need weapons. By introducing means of violence into a civil society, you create violence. Once the ball gets rolling, you'll have USA where everybody is scared of their shadow.
 
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Of course I can't. This afternoon Mohsenam was saying humans came to be only 6000 years ago. I also can't counter that. For a discussion to take place, both sides need to have logic.

You have a hard time understanding logic. In a violent society, more weapons, of any kind, only worsen the situation. In countries like Somalia, Yemen, Iraq and Pakistan, every household has a weapon. All 4 are examples of failed societies where the central government is almost non-existent. Things are so sour in these countries that the only way to survive is to join in and become part of the problem.

USA is the most violent society in the developed world. Guns and knives and weapons of all kind only add to the problem. You keep telling me about personal safety, freedom this and freedom that and a violent society where you and your family could apparently be gunned down at any second for no reason, but you fail to realize that you're part of the issue. It's your society that needs to be fixed. More guns will create more problems.

There's a reason people in Canada don't need weapons. It's the same reason people in Denmark, Germany and a million other developed countries don't need weapons. By introducing means of violence into a civil society, you create violence. Once the ball gets rolling, you'll have USA where everybody is scared of their shadow.
your teaching me about logic?? lmao….
everything you said is a load of crap btw…
now listen.
having strict gun laws does what? do you know?
- prevents ordinary citizens from arming themselves.
what is wrong with that?
citizens can't protect themselves, their property and family. police can;t always be there to protect you and sometimes they come too late.
who does strict gun control laws help the most??
the answer is easy. it helps criminals.
ordinary citizens won't be able to gun to defend themselves.. criminals always had guns and will keep getting them..
so instead of citizens being able to defend themselves against criminals they will become victims…


let me give you an example of how 2 guys broke into a house in connecticut, they robbed the family first then raped the mother and daughters and shot the father… then they tied up the daughters and mother to a bed and lit the house on fire… the cops were 20 minutes late after the father managed to escape and call the police..
 
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That was my point. His perspective is coming from a pakistani upbringing, thus he thinks Canada is strict.
canada and europe are strict from a gun owners prospective… a gun owner in any country… but a non-gun owner has no right to say what is strict or not…
 
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lol only in murica ^^^

Edit: this video takes a poo on the above so called study

lol only in murica ^^^

Edit: this video takes a poo on the above so called study

harvard took a poo on that video. Liberals can't prove the study wrong so they just make fun of americans instead. The 2nd amendment is not only about protecting ones self either just so you know.

Here get a load of this:

KENNESAW, Ga - Several Kennesaw officials attribute a drop in crime in the city over the past two decades to a law that requires residents to have a gun in the house.
In 1982, the Kennesaw City Council unanimously passed a law requiring heads of households to own at least one firearm with ammunition.
The ordinance states the gun law is needed to "protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants."
Then-councilman J.O. Stephenson said after the ordinance was passed, everyone "went crazy."
"People all over the country said there would be shootings in the street and violence in homes," he said. "Of course, that wasn't the case."
In fact, according to Stephenson, it caused the crime rate in the city to plunge.
Kennesaw Historical Society president Robert Jones said following the law's passage, the crime rate dropped 89 percent in the city, compared to the modest 10 percent drop statewide.
"It did drop after it was passed," he said. "After it initially dropped, it has stayed at the same low level for the past 16 years."
Mayor Leonard Church was not in office when the law was passed, but he said he is a staunch supporter of it.
"You can't argue with the fact that Kennesaw has the lowest crime rate of any city our size in the country," said Church, who owns a denture-making company in Kennesaw.
The author of the ordinance, local attorney Fred Bentley Sr., attributes at least some of the decrease in crime to the bill.
"I am definitely in favor of what we did," he said. "It may not be totally responsible for the decrease, [but] it is a part."
Although he is pleased with the outcome, Bentley said he was originally opposed to drafting the law.
"I didn't think it could be written in a constitutional fashion," he said. "Obviously, it was constitutional, because the American Civil Liberties Union challenged it in court and we won."
Jones said the ACLU challenged the law in a federal court just after it was passed. In response, the city added a clause adding conscientious objectors to the list of those exempt.
Although the law is now being credited with a drop in crime, Jones said that was not the law's original purpose. He also pointed out that Kennesaw did not have a big problem with crime before.
"The crime rate wasn't that high to start with. It was 11 burglaries per 1,000 residents in 1981," he said.
According to the Kennesaw Police Department, the city's most recent crime statistics show 243 property crimes per 100,000 residents in 1998, or .243 per 1,000.
The city's crime rate continues to be far below other metro Atlanta city's with similar populations, like Decatur. In 1998, Decatur recorded 4,049 property crimes per 100,000 residents.
Jones said one motivation for the council passing the ordinance had to do with publicity.
"It was done in response to a law passed by Morton Grove, Ill., outlawing gun ownership within the city limits," he said. "Several council members were upset Morton Grove had gotten a lot of attention with their ordinance so they decided to top them.
"They figured the gun ownership ordinance would knock that city right off the front pages. They were right."
Jones said the ensuing publicity surrounding the law has given Kennesaw worldwide name recognition.
"I have been to Australia and Europe and when I tell people I am from Kennesaw they recognize the name as the place that requires everyone to own a gun," he said.
But Stephenson said the issue was not publicity-driven but issue-driven.
"We believed in the right of people to own guns," he said.
Jones said he has sold 550 copies of a 1994 book about the first-of-its-kind law, "The Law Heard 'Round the World."
He said the law in its final form has many loopholes, so not everyone is required to own a gun.
"There are many outs," he said. "When you look at it, almost anyone could fit into one of the exempted groups."
Kennesaw Police Chief Dwaine Wilson said no one has ever been prosecuted under the ordinance.
Among those exempt are residents "who conscientiously oppose maintaining firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine." Others exempt include the physically and mentally disabled, paupers and those convicted of a felony.
The law contains no clause addressing punishment for violating the law. If convicted, City Clerk Diane Coker said punishment would be determined by the general penalty clause of the Kennesaw Code Ordinance - probably a fine of about $100.
Jones said the unusual law has not deterred anyone from moving to Kennesaw.
"Our population has increased just like everyone's in Georgia in the past 20 years," he said. "The law really hasn't done any harm to the city's growth."
The city's population in 1998 was recorded at 14,493 - a sharp increase over the 8,936 residents recorded in the 1990 census.
Cobb Chamber of Commerce president Bill Cooper said odd laws are typically not counted as strike against a city when a business is looking to relocate.
"These laws don't have laws don't have an impact on a company's decision to move to Cobb County," Cooper said.
"Many communities have strange laws that are out of date. Businesses look at many factors when relocating, such as quality of life, education, infrastructure and available workforce."
Bentley said the law actually may have helped business development.
"Kennesaw is home to more manufacturing businesses than any other Cobb city," he said. "Companies have said they want to be located in conservative areas."
And Kennesaw isn't the only city in Cobb with an unusual law on the books.
According to Jeff Koon, who runs a Web site specializing in funny laws, Dumblaws.com, Acworth has a ordinance requiring residents to own a rake.
In Marietta, it is illegal to spit from a car or a bus, but perfectly legal to spit from a truck.

Gun Ownership - It's The Law In Kennesaw

What a load of 3rd world horse manure.

Let's end this discussion. You grew up in a society where everything and everyone wants to kill you. I didn't. I don't need to protect myself and I don't want a society where every idiot can own a weapon. As I said, 1/4 of Canadians own guns. That's a lot of weapons, but we have laws, background checks etc...
If you ever go to the u.s I suggest you stay in the safe cites like detroit and chicago where there is plenty of gun control. I think you will feel much safer than you ever would in kennesaw georgia.
 
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canada and europe are strict from a gun owners prospective… a gun owner in any country… but a non-gun owner has no right to say what is strict or not…

About Norway and Sweden, they do have a hunting culture so firearms and firearm ownership is prevalent in those countries. Yes, in comparison to US and a few other countries their firearm policy is not a right it is a privilege. Hence they are stricter and require licensing, and many other requirements. I would say by European standards Norway and Sweden are good for gun owners, as well as Iceland where afaik gun ownership is around 40%. Switzerland has one of the best pro-gun laws in Europe and in the world, there citizens and especially men of military age are required to have a military issued rifle and military issued 50 rounds at home, because Switzerland has no standing army but a civilian army they can call to come to war at a moment's notice.

Also Yemen has the second highest gun ownership in the world behind US, but that wasn't included in the list.
 
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