we had even better project than Yak-130 ....
shafagh protoype -> 2002- 2006
Shafagh was meant to replace all of our f5 , l7/f7 , MirageF1 till 2010-2014 , but in middle of project , russians stop cooperating with us ...
Shafagh was even better than Yak-130 with less RCS and...
so grand operation of rebels to break Aleppo siege become meaningless , they just lost some of their best fighters ... now ,if Syria army librate Khan Touman , they rebel are don for good ...
now , its time to counter attack on Hama ...
Probably they will promise russia thst if they dont sell us anything then they will remove Ukraine conflict related sanction ...
But as far as I know , with piping 5th fighter from right and left , this one of last chance that Russians have for selling milikng flanker platform ...
هاشمی عملا مثال می زنه که ایران باید مثل آلمان و ژاپن بعد از جنگ جهانی دوم ارتشش رو منحل کنه ...
افرادی که طرفدار طیف هاشمی هستند ،می شه نظرشون رو بگند !؟
روزنامه های اصلاح طلب هم که دارند روی این طبل می کوبند ... بعد از ننگین نامه ی برجام و تحریم کردن نیروهای نظامی توسط بانک های داخل کشور و...
I say we want to buy more than 150 Su 30 , but Soheil says we want to buy just 30-40 su 30 ...
logically , no one would buy production licensee of an fighter just to produce 30-40 fighter , this is irrational and unwise ...
if we want to revive our airforce , at least we need more than 150...
Buying 30 40 Su 30 is wast of time and money and it will just add more trouble to air force ... This will be even less useful than Mig 29 ...
Do you think IRAF just collectiner ?!
Why we should add cost of training ( pilot and crew ) , new weapons , new maintance complex and etc just for...
@Serpentine
There are 3 topic about this issue , please merge them
1- We want to have production line of fighter in our country , so we have to choose of buying productin license of only one aircraft ( we don't have enough money to buy production license of several Aircraft and prepare...
انگلیس یک ناو هلیکوپتر بر و یک ناو تخصصی پدافند هوایی رو به خلیج فارس فرستاده ...
انگار نقطه ی ضعف دولت فعلی (ترس از غرب و عافیت طلبی )رو حسابی درک کردند ، دیگه ول کن نیستند ...
Troll , won't ever become silent ... if they don't have anything for trolling , they simply will come and say :"Its not as expensive as X fighter , so its useless " or " the pilot look unprofessional , so the fighter is bad " ...
I doubt Russians sell Su-30 to us in large number ( more than 60 fighters ) .... this government cant sign a fair deal to any foreign country ... they are basically naive ....
look like Ouj engine has some similitarity to J85-GE-21 ...
according of wiki , J85-GE-21 has 3,500 lbf (16 kN) military thrust; 5,000 lbf (22 kN) afterburning thrust ...
so its safe to assume that Ouj trust is between 15kn-17kn ...
Estimated Ouj jet engine specifications ( base on J85 ) ...