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Deep down i know lca would kick jfs butt - but thats my influenced opinion. Just the way posters over here feel jf block 3 will take down rafale inluding air marshal shahid lateef :suicide: it has been corroborated widely that PAF was not even aware of Kargil mission undertaken by Pak army...

Why i woud lie ? :-) Do a search. In think for benefit of PDF - you guys can compile the list and let everyone know the outcome. Why should it be spoon fed? Hint - ratio favors very badly for PAF. Listen to the podcast links that i posted above. Flight hours calculated is very different based...

Rofl - have you done your analysis. Heres what you do - for last 10 years create a list of PAF reported crashes ( there are unreported ones too) , create a list of PAF mortalities, segregate between rotary/fighter ; Create the same list for IAF. And compare them. Take into consideration IAF is...

You fly more - you loose more ! Thats a direct corelation. Pak started to fly more after iaf increased sorties - crash rate went through the rooof. It might be surprising for you - flying costs lot of money. And also objectively if you analyze - F7's and even thunder doesnt have endurance . On...

It was a honest comment windy - that loop was truly great for JF :) I am not neutral - am i and neither are you. So what is the point. Economy and managing economy is not PAKs strength. And also coz funds are obviously usurped by army - isnt it. It controls everything. Since when has PA ever...

That makes it two of us. IAF would do the same. Question is - what happens after the first 48 hours !

I just congratulated on completion of looop ..i think its great. And sure JF has scored the imaginary kill..rofl. You can feed this stories to gullible newbies in pdf.. Dear - you can twist however you like. You guys confirmed bahrain air show. It was planned out and at the last minute you...

What a joke ! Heres a fact - if you dont fly you dont crash ! PAF hardly flies - infact after last feb when the sortie rates became too high it lost a slew of aircraft to crashes. Russian trained airforce...lol... Your thought process amazes me. Basically because you are american trained air...

6.5 Billion dollars worth of order for Tejas Mk1A and you are telling that Airforce is buying for tokenism ! What is the order size of thunder - can you tell ? Read more khan and argue logically. And by the way - you will see orders of Htt 40 shortly and then followed by Mk2 within next couple...

Once again congratulations on JF performing a loop finally - it surely most have moistened your eyes.. Heavy fine was paid to BAS organizers for pulling out at the last minute. BAS had planned everything for JF participation - time slots, booth, and other stuff ; And if you withdraw - you pay...

Just when i thought you are perhaps one of the sensible ones -- IAF is pretty scared ..thats why they are ordering LCA in droves. ROFL - your absence of logic amazes me. Here are some things - 1. we annexed Kashmir !! It is formally now a part of India. Other than celebrating 5 min silence you...

SO Mk1A has uttam or 2052 ? I assume its 2052.

THis entire thread is a joke - but since you seem to be a reasonable poster i will try my best to answer questions. Order is not for 86 jets. It is 83 + 40 jets. 40 Jets have already been ordered and is of Mk1 specification, whereas 83 is of Mk1A spec. So the total is 123 jets. It always was...

1. AESA has already been tested on other IAF fighters - so IAF knows what to expect. This will be validated during some prelim flights. 2. Platform is not changing. So flight characteristics and flight envelope remains the same. So no testing is required for flight envelope 3. Certification is...

ROFL ..amusing to see incorrigible member whose job is to post for likes. I return here sometimes just to bust some myths that members over here. We knew MI17 was fraticide within hours - but when are you going to acknowledge the fallen F16 ! I remember - just the way you hid your F16...

Denel was caught bribing the officials. Its as straight forward as that - you can spin it however you want. By the way the ban on denel was lifted - but i doubt indian officials will touch it with barge pole.

Last i heard it was south african firm DENEL that was kicked out of India due to corruption ! French so far has come out clean.

All the cry for an aircraft that never even flew down to India ! Yes, RB 00 03 - is still in France. RB 00 03 most probably is being used for testing out ISE - so its undergoing some fair share of flying. That explains its catastrophic peeling of paint job..:yahoo::yahoo::yahoo: But windy being...

Thanks - i owe you a response. Duty calls - so will respond back in a day or so.

In your opinion - whats the benchmark that should be aimed at ? Which AD can realistically defeat missile threats ?