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    India get the first 3 MiG29UPG fighters

    I found a link which is very comprehensive and lists everything individually. But it is in Russian. Use a translator get the info. I think the confusion stems from the MiG-29K package, and several reporters and news agencies make an error out of that confusion by assuming Topsight in both the...
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    India get the first 3 MiG29UPG fighters

    Yea, different sources do report between Topsight and Shchel. Although getting a new costly french HMDS for just 1000 hours seems improbable. Anyway, lets wait and see.
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    India get the first 3 MiG29UPG fighters

    No no.. read the my previous posts and also the upgrade package detailed in that red pic posted by someone above. MiG-29UPG will not have Topsight.
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    India get the first 3 MiG29UPG fighters

    Does Jaguar and MiG-27 upgrades have any HMS on them? I'm not giving these fighter-bombers any read lately. Tejas will have DASH HMDS. No idea if it has been integrated yet.
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    India get the first 3 MiG29UPG fighters

    He claims PAF changed that order and used that money for 2005 earthquake victims. He is your hero for boosting the range of your JF-17's radar from 85km for 5m2(as reported in janes) to 105km for 5m2. Atleast give him some credit. Even the chinese 50centers didn't get that info. Even KUB will...
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    India get the first 3 MiG29UPG fighters

    They will share everything with the Block 52. But the range, engines and payload capacity will remain the same. However if you want to believe Prasun K.Sengupta who brought us the famous KLJ-7 Radar's 105km for 5m2 poster outta no where, the MLUs will only have the APG-66 radar(72km for 5m2) and...
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    India get the first 3 MiG29UPG fighters

    MiG-29UPG isn't getting Topsight. It is only getting a Sh-3UM-1(Shchel). MiG-29Bs had the Sh-3UM. Most likely they didn't even change the entire helmet/dashboard setup and only some components in Shchel to make them compatible with the new Zhuk radar and new generation of R-73 missiles. This is...
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    India get the first 3 MiG29UPG fighters

    If you are going to worry about the fuel tanks worry about the huge ones inside the wings of every jet fighter. During a dogfight there are more chances of gun rounds hitting the internal wing tanks than the spine tank since the wings/wing-tanks have a much larger surface area. And for low level...
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    Number of BVR missiles carried by 4th and 5th Generation fighters

    MiG-29M/M2/K http://i45.tinypic.com/wwkejc.jpg Eurofighter http://www.on-target-aviation.com/Assetts/images/TYPHOON LOADOUT CHART copy.jpg F-15E/K Factsheets : F-15E Strike Eagle F-16 Block 50/52/60 http://i45.tinypic.com/33n92f8.jpg F-35A/B/C...
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    Number of BVR missiles carried by 4th and 5th Generation fighters

    Number of BVR missiles carried by 4th and 5th Generation fighters. And some 3rd generation fighters as well. ------------------------------------- Su-35S http://www.ausairpower.net/XIMG/Su-35-KNAAPO-Brochure-Loadouts-2008.png F/A-18E/F...
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    Su-30MKI vs Su-35S

    This is not actually a typical VS thread because both these fighters are operated by friendly countries. So the probability of these 2 fighting against each other is Zero. This is just to see how these 2 compares with each other and also, gives an idea of what the Super-Sukhoi-30MKI might derive...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    When you enter into a stall, lose lift, and don't have thrust vectoring, how are you going to orient your aircraft in the right direction? What stops the aircraft from changing direction and course and making all the thrust point towards the wrong direction? Besides, has JF-17 done atleast 1...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    Those loops are carried out at speeds greater than take-off speeds. If your speed is low, your AoA increases. And if it breaches the Aircraft's maximum AoA limit(by slow speed or vigorous turning, or both of them together which are the conditions prevailing at this juncture if an aircraft wants...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    If the reason is not Thrust to Weight ratio, then I can only think of the Angle of Attack limitation. If the max angle of attack limit of a fighter is less, you cannot turn rapidly against the air flow during take-off where the air speed is normally less than while under flight. The 19200lbf...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    Normal weight is a loose term. Different countries define "Normal" differently. What you should be looking at is empty weight and maximum take-off weight. Latest empty weight figure for JF-17 is 6586kgs(14520lb). Maximum is 12,700kgs. So that comes to 12700 - 6586 = 6114kgs. 6114-4600 = 1514...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    Finally some updated specs! Ferry range seems accurate(down to the last km!). The earlier one was so Huge for a light fighter. That is most probably the initial max estimation during development which got carried over to subsequent spec sheets. Also unbelievable since RD-33 family generally has...
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    Heavy weight MKI carries 8t while Medium weight Rafale carries 9t, why? ECO

    I don't see why rafale can't carry its full bomb load using multi carriage bomb racks just because such a pic hasn't been released, or has been released and not yet seen by many. It's airframe is stressed for 9.5 tonnes, whether it be bombs or tanks. The only disadvantage of using a bomb rack is...
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    Heavy weight MKI carries 8t while Medium weight Rafale carries 9t, why? ECO

    Why does rafale has to carry external fuel tanks if it wants to carry its full load? That doesn't make sense. If the target is close by, it doesn't need any external fuel tanks. Yup, Sukhoi always has the advantage in range and loiter time, and the resultant advantage of utilizing all its...
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    China tests new ASAT weapon

    Basically an ASAT is an oversized SAM. It's just bigger with more propellants since it has to reach space. Actually, technologically an ASAT weapon is much easier to make than a SAM. SAM needs to have very frequent updates and a very good datalink with its base radar to compensate for rapid...
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    Heavy weight MKI carries 8t while Medium weight Rafale carries 9t, why? ECO

    Here are the external payload of fighters at present - F/A 18 E/F Hornet - 8000kgs Su-35 - 8000kgs All Su-30 variants - 8000kgs MiG-29M/M2 - 6500kgs F-15E - 10400kgs F-16 Block 52 - 7500kgs F-22A - 10000kgs Eurofighter - 7500kgs Rafale - 9000kgs F-35A - 8100kgs* Gripen - 5300kgs J-10 - 4500kgs...
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