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He was saying something about MiG-21 shooting down F-35 or some crap when I said no such thing. Genuine troll. As for MiG-21 crashes, MiG-21 is the most flown aircraft in IAFs entire history. It is also the most numerous aircraft to fly in the IAFs entire history. It is also the aircraft which...

Absolutely! It far from useless, as some here are preaching. Yes, yes and yes. One of the reason why IAFs main interceptors are the MiG-21s and MiG-29s, not MKI. But unfortunately your F-7s and Mirages are to be replaced by JF-17.

^ stupid trolling. I think I beginning to understand the logic going on here. Anything JF-17 doesn't have, is labeled unnecessary, and what it does have is the only things necessary. Fanboys through and through. "It is pointed out that the F-35 is primarily designed as a strike aircraft, with...

No.. no.. ofcourse not. For example, if both MiG-21 and JF-17 are at X distance from a target and are at 12 o clock of each other(say a paf bomber), the MiG-21 can get to the target faster and kill it. And can get its asss outta there before the JF-17 shows up. Which means the MiG has completed...

Holy sshit. Talk about nonsense. In order to shoot a jet, you need to catch it in the first place. How are you going to shoot a jet going away from you at an angle greater than 90 degrees? Magic? Your JF-17s speed is 1.6. Latest info from farnborough. "If your AoA is less than 28 you are gone...

Hearsay? He posted the evolution pic, and chinese sources which had the JF-17's MiG-21 genes plotted. What more do you want? I never said JF-17 and MiG-21 have the same abilities, but to claim JF-17 didn't have its lineage to the MiG-21 is pure sshit. The correct sentence would be, JF-17 is a...

Nice try?? NICE TRY? That's what Major sahib is shouting his lungs out for 7 pages. What were you thinking I was saying in my previous posts? Ofcourse they took a different direction and concentrated on aerodynamics this time with initial help from Grumman, or else they would have ended up with...

Why are you proving my point? They continued with the Super J-7 foundation after grumman left. The project was re-branded/re-named to FC-1. ---------- Post added at 10:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:50 PM ---------- lol.. looks like the mods didn't like the batman joke. But I hope...

This is.. this is incredible! Look at the wing. Look at the fuckin evolution of those wings!! That wing was there even before the west pulled the plug. Not to mention the side intakes. So JF-17 is indeed a Super J-7. Proprietary Trade secret Indeed!!! Thank you Grumman! Major Saheb is right...

Under the new laws proposed by Kapil Sibal, these kinds of topics will become illegal. BAH!!

Hey, don't accuse us. It went awry because of discussions within discussions which was also initiated by pakistani members. I don't want to be the reason for the closure of this thread. This is my last post on this topic. See ya around peeps!

Actually storm, China had around 3000 J-6 as early as 1995! Then add in the Q5, another variant of the Mig-19 whose number is around 500. So in total around 3500 Mig-19 junks were in PLAAF in 1995. They were gradually taken out of active service. Chinese claim they are all retired now, which is...

You are only pro-west in defence purchases, but you are pro-chinese in everything, including being strategic pals. How can anyone expect pakistan to bad mouth chinese products. Actually, there is something called as a radar warning receiver. You might want to look up on that. So there will be...

hehe.. that's my line. JF-17, F-16 & Gripen are shortlisted. They are single engined, just like the J-10.

wow. My hunch was right. J-10 did indeed compete. Why was J-10 not shortlisted like the others? Serbia prefers JF-17 over J-10?

Glad you found it useful. : ) Regarding twin engined fighter safely, and the importance of Thrust to weight ratio. Here is an apt example: Top government sources said that Air Headquarters has urgently requested the Prime Minister to raise the issue of engine serviceability with his Russian...

Pakistan is extremely pro Chinese. "taller than mountains, deeper than oceans" and all that. Most people won't take Pakistan praising Chinese products, as objective. If a fighter has a high thrust to weight ratio, it can perform evasive maneuvers better, if a bvr missile is heading towards it...

Why can't anyone market new fighters? India signed it's MiG-29 deal even before that jet was operational in Soviet Union. That was back in crazy days of the cold war. Now there is not even a threat of immediate war for china. ---------- Post added at 11:58 AM ---------- Previous post was at...

You don't need to have that fighter in your country's airforce to be labeled a fanboy. Fanboy is one who rants and protects his fav object even after links are posted before him which tells otherwise. In any case, your outdated airforce buys Chinese stuff and also your country views china as a...

There could be many factors, including Myanmar already fielding Mig-29s. However, after the collapse of the soviet union, spares always became a problem. If Myanmar chose the Mig-29 despite that huge dis-advantage, and the Chinese highly favorable payment conditions for their jets, and Myanmar...