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Grow the hell up! Instead of posting hogwash, try to be more meaningful and realistic in what really happened. Pakistan armed forces do NOT have a pre-emptive strike doctrine.

You mean a stable state or nation-state.

Well certainly not in Pakistan's case. The constitution has no respect and is merely a toy in the hands of the power hungry.

Nice flame bait but it aint working. Please try again while I urge Mods to have a look at this.

Alas, you are confusing the policy on Taleban and Al-Qaeda with Kashmiri insurgents. While the former two are being hunted (perhaps one less than the other), the latter are only kept in check by making it difficult for them to infiltrate over the porous border to IOK as is agreed with India.

Do go through: http://www.sinodefence.com/navy/sub/091.asp And currently the Type 093 is under development with Pentagon estimates of PLAN having up to 6-8 of them subs by 2010.

What Pakistan Navy needs to do is go for heavier frigates and destroyers. Its current fleet of frigates is obselete and they are too light (with displacements that would have them described as Corvettes by the USN). F-22P frigates won't help much at all. Pakistan should be looking at Lafayettes.

Yes, just like blaming Pakistan for everything that goes wrong in India is rather an overly simplistic analysis so to say - without any concrete evidence.

Very informative. Thanks MuradK.

Pakistan doesn't have to worry about the world, its main issue is with India and as far as second strike capability is concerned, the SSKs can perform just as well as the SSNs but more cheaply. You only have to modify SSKs to carry Babur's sub-version and on the other hand, miniaturize a nuclear...

Lad, I would first and foremost advise you to differentiate between a 'terrorist' and an 'insurgent'. Then perhaps we can go on with this discussion.

And all this while I do not even know what his 'message' was.

Actually here in Canada, the service provider charges anywhere between $20 to $60 to unlock a GSM phone even if you have bought if off them when the SIM card and the package was bought. They don't care what reason you give them, simple thing is, you want your phone unlocked, you have to pay for...

There is a difference between a warning and a cautioning remark. Jana has been cautioned time and again for the mistakes she makes as was your friend, who I believe left the forum because he was so sensitive. And save your sarcasms for someone else since they hardly ever work to provoke me...

And the BAE employees have one more reason to thank the Saudis. They always come to the rescue of their jobs and this time, its for the long haul.

Anyways, the article clearly is written in a way that makes me want to believe the author infact was blindfolded towards other parts of the world from where the risk of nuclear weapons falling in to the wrong hands could be greater. Hint: RUSSIA. In ANY possible scenario, it is a thousand...

His son has claimed, that those were not his father's items.

First of all, people don't get banned around here just because a Mod feels like banning the person. Secondly, if you debate and discuss within the RULES of this forum, you do not have to be worried about a Ban unless of course you are implying that you cannot debate and discuss keeping Rules in...

Ah yes, I missed that. The News was probably the only Pakistan newspaper reporting but Indian Media splashed that all over their networks. Anywayz, the so-called capability to build nuclear sub has yet to be verified by any of the credible military sources, such as Janes.

Ok I have competely stopped relying on Indian news media especially after the article 'Pakistan acquires capability to build nuclear subs'. That news has yet to be confirmed by any credible news agency. And I wont bet a dime on anything that comes out of the Indian press till I see it backed up...