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    Pakistan’s nuclear and missile assets -- myth vs reality

    Oh please. Our collaboration is openly declared and when foreign assistance is sought it is openly acknowledged. Our recent successes include the Akash, Nag, Pinaka, Rajendra radars, WLR radars, battlefield surveillance radars, the Agni-III, ALH, a wide range of SONARs developed for the navy...
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    Urdu Adab

    vOh unhE yaadh karE, jisnEy bHulaayaa hO kabHi humnEy unkO naa bHulaayaa, na kabHi yaadh kiyaa Dont know the author.
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    Urdu Adab

    Well..if the girl who is supposed to read the script is wearing a skirt it would embarrass her. :tongue: Bahadur Shah Zafar - Yes, not sure about where he wrote it though.
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    Urdu Adab

    Thanks.That last 'Kind of Hindoostan' was a good patron of poems even if he wasn't a great poet himself. Ofcourse it does, Webby. If you want to get slapped by an arrogant Punjabi bandhi sitting next to you trying to explain that she can't read Hindi and that Hindi/urdu scripts are so...
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    Urdu Adab

    sheez I forgot you guys cant read Hindi. Get a mirror and read it upside down...maybe it will look like urdu.:crazy: Here is the translation on wiki My heart is not happy in this despoiled land Who has ever felt fulfilled in this transient world The nightingale laments neither to the...
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    The New Islam

    I think we are running dangerously off-topic. And the credit/at least part of it will go to me. But I think we should understand the root of our problems. It is the Infallibility of the Quran and the difficulties that we have to face in interpreting the book. The Quran was 'revealed' over a...
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    Urdu Adab

    Forget girlfriend...all girls who know Hindi or Urdu are seen fleeing at my sight. They just cant seem to explain a lot of these words I keep discovering in old hindi songs. They want me to learn 'modern' Hindi/urdu. :crazy: The latest one I discovered on wikipedia after reading Last Mughal ...
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    The New Islam

    Well said! The fact that this supernatural thing(capable of changing anything anytime) chooses to remain idle even as babies are born with AIDS, CANCER and blindness is reason enough for me to cease respecting it in any form - either Cow or Allah.
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    The New Islam

    You've got to be kidding me! Show me all the available translations and point out which translation of Quran explicitly bans all forms of slavery or beating women. Even if slavery is approved of in a symbolic manner - the idea is outdated by a century. Humans have moved beyond that. We've had...
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    Interfaith marriages

    offtopic/ We're getting paid to spin stories like this.This is part of a Jewish conspiracy. :crazy: Malaysia's "Moderate" Islam Means Racism and Oppression
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    Interfaith marriages

    offtopic/ The next Taliban are coming out of Malaysia. Those "Islamic" courts are churning out such disgusting judgements - seperate infant from mother(interfaith marriage), exhume dead body and bury in Islamic manner...annuling marriages. Utter crap. Such a worthless degraded state of...
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    The New Islam

    A very positive way of looking at it. Earnest attempts at rationalizing and making the Quran compatible to our modern world. But frankly, what in your personal opinion are the chances of Quran prescribing beating a wife? It was pretty normal in medieval Arabia and Mohammad belonged to that...
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    Prove God!

    If you believe in the theories put forth by science you're contradicting Bible and Quran. (Story of Adam and Eve) You cannot contradict the Quran and still remain a Muslim. Implies no Muslim can believe in such theories.
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    Urdu Adab

    All of you translate whatever you write in Urdu....I can understand half of what is written..a full translation will really help.
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    Prove God!

    That is quite a huge assumption, Sir. Actually it is mere wishful thinking. How do we know that belief was roped in to bring societal order ? After all these bombings, discriminations and slaughters in the names of God - we have been given chaos and not order by those who perpetuate faith...
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    Churches burnt in India

    Aha. You must've seen these Europeans during Christmas and New year. More Christians in India would be in churches than those in the whole of UK on New Years eve! These people are 'out of religious indoctrination'. AM. Perhaps Pakistanis could start from renaming their missiles ?
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    Churches burnt in India

    I have to point it out that - as much as I'd like to agree with what you have written, PPP now has his own interpretation or source of interpretation. To him,that is his religion. There must be a few million like this individual. A few million like you. And a few million each for every...
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    Churches burnt in India

    I was always told to be rather economical with the truth when speaking to doctors, lawyers. Now I'm going to add journalists to the list as well. No offense meant to individuals of the said professions of course. Nothing personal, just business. :azn:
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    Churches burnt in India

    Sorry, no other media appears to be reporting the same. You're trying to pass off an article in a language unknown to us as evidence for your unsubstantiated claims. Won't work. 1.Show us one English media reporting that churches were burnt *during* the curfew *by the Indian police*. 2. Why...
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    Churches burnt in India

    So what evidence does Batman bring forth to support his assertion that churches are burnt only during curfews? Curfews are imposed *after* disturbances. Batman, You're flame baiting. 1. You have no evidence to prove that Churches are burnt by Indian forces during curfews. 2.You've...
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