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I don't know why everyone is acting like Iran would attack Azerbaijan if war resumed between the Azeris and Armenia. Iran isn't stupid and isn't going to do something so much out of their interests. Even if it did happen, while it's questionable that Turkey would intervene to save Azerbaijan...

NFZ would involve Turkey from the Jordanian side? You think Turkey's going to send fighter planes to Jordan..? When you say more involved in Iraq, do you think Iraq's era of foreign military intervention isn't over? You think the USA is gonna get involved again?

Are we watching Turkey being sidelined in Syria's future? Turkey hasn't really commented much on the new US decision to arm the rebels nor have they lent any support to the No-Fly Zone idea being floated around. And to make matters more interesting, all US plans for a NFZ right now are going...

Yeah. To be honest, I doubt russia+Iran are strong enough to take on even just the Arab League + Turkey. Not that they couldn't win a military match-up, but it wouldn't be worth it at that point. I wouldn't say a Saudi in a Eurofighter is as scary as a German in one, but it's still a Eurofighter...

Not that I don't believe you, but for my own curiosity. Could you point me to a source that says this?

Sure there will be. If the Allies in WW2 stopped fighting Hitler, there'd be peace in Nazi Germany. You need unrest to bring freedom sometimes. @Yzd Khalifa : Thanks, I appreciate it. I wish everyone thought like you. I personally would go out of my way to save Turks all over the world but...

A Nuclear Submarine doesn't strengthen a navy anymore than a diesel one does. The only difference is they can stay submerged longer, quieter, etc.. Even their intended use, Nuclear Deterrence, is really not naval. Their intended target is on land. @W.11 You don't need to be a nuclear power...

Well militarily I'm sure they can. They just don't want to deal with the consequences Obama will bring upon them. Sticky situation

Haha. You think I want Turkey to be in the EU???! :omghaha:

1. I think you misunderstood me, I was saying the INTL community could do little to punish the Arab Coalition intervening in Syria 2. This is true. Also, the degree of control arab states have on the new Syria is unpredictable. We wouldn't know if say, Qatar or the UAE would be able to force the...

Sure, I agree it's more Turkey's problem because we're directly affected. But Arabs are watching Arabs die. We wouldn't let Turks die just because we don't border the country in question. @Aussie4ever, War isn't nice. People die. It costs a lot. But the GCC countries are basically trying to...

*I didn't mention US intervening *True. *And? *True. *From who? *Afghanistan model? Afghanistan has nothing to do with the situation in Syria. If you mentioned Iraq I'd understand but Afghanistan is totally different

Stupid Afghans. They're the ones actually destabilizing Pakistan because they're a failed nation. It's about time Pakistan goes in and kills this Karzai idiot and let his government collapse. Split Afganistan between the Iranians and Pakistan. Its shown that it can't be a functioning country.

A) True but wars do happen and while the international community technically is against all "illegal" wars, the international community is also very subjective in its punishment. B) International Law only matters to the point where a nation's interests are at stake enough to violate it. And...

Biased? Did Iraq win and I was asleep? What were the casualties on each side of hezbollah pounding Israel? Please remind me

Arab forum members, tell me something. Syria's military right now is in much worse shape than most of the top spending Arab militaries. Naval theater is non-existant. There's a ton of rebels on the ground plus allied arab troops. The saudi airforce alone is miles ahead of Syria's. What's...

Trust me. You don't want those man. You know how much those things cost?

It doesn't matter how massive Iran's armed forces are. Iran barely has an airforce right now, correct me if I'm wrong. Do you know what happens with air superiority? Go watch a Gulf War documentary, come back to your pc, listen to the song "Proud to be an American", then respond. If anything...

haha i agree, they're not. Hamas isn't a deterrent. Gaza is a deterrent. The innocent people getting killed to hunt for cowardly terrorists is a deterrent. Not wanting a bad image because of killing Gazans is the real deterrent.

1. Turkey 2. Pakistan The others aren't really fully-fledged navies with significant warfighting capability. Turkey is a Muslim nation with a secular government, so it should still be included. The government and nation are two separate things.