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    Altay & Turkish Main Battle Tank Programs

    C'mon Otokar and Koc familiy fans or whatever, pls start to decry BMC contract: Ismail Demir spoke exclusively to Anadolu Agency at the Eurasia Airshow: Demir stated they target delivery of the tank within 18 months, with mass production to start with 250 units, adding that the production will...
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    Altay & Turkish Main Battle Tank Programs

    Very nice and almost neutral sumary! Why are so many Turks against presidents preference to some companys or their owners, aren't you able to see in most european countrys or in USA the same behaviour? As long as those companys do what they are payed for, all of them are payed and none has done...
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    Altay & Turkish Main Battle Tank Programs

    I allready knew about those 250 engines but I'm not sure if they are allready delivered to TR and I don't believe they are but I hope I'm wrong! I think it is fine for TR to produce first 250 with german engines cuz that will anyway take few years which is enough to produce own engine for 2nd...
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    Altay & Turkish Main Battle Tank Programs

    Are there any additional info about deadlines for tank and also the engine? Will they wait till own engine is developed or will they produce first batch with german engines and then in second one use own engines? Very intressting.
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    Altay & Turkish Main Battle Tank Programs

    As I just can't believe that Otokar and Koc family have so many fans for free I'll say the corruption has reached this forum aswell so I'm for BMC, just for fun. They just screem for Otokar and their patriotism but no one says that Otokar just made the dev. for Altay as part of contract which...
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    Altay & Turkish Main Battle Tank Programs

    Somehow it looks like somobody at Otokar seems to be very big buddie of yours.
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    TF-X Turkish Fighter & Trainer Aircraft Projects

    TAI should really start to sell models of that aircraft, they would make a lot of money which could be used for dev. budget of real aircraft ;-)... very nice shape, hope they'll be able to make it in propper time
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    Turkish Unmanned Vehicle Programs

    does it allready exist in real?
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    TF-X Turkish Fighter & Trainer Aircraft Projects

    C'mon, what did you expected? Did any of you who is now so surprised or disappointed informed him self what time it took the US to develop F35 or EU states to develop Eurofighter or do you see what time do russian need to develop SU57?? It's a fighter jet and not new bicycle it allways takes...
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    Turkish Peace Operations in Syria (Operation Olive Branch) Updates & Discussions

    Don't do that pls, egoism is killing you! FSA aren't Turks so what, they are humans, friends, neighbors, muslims! How can you laugh or bee so sarcastic just because someone else could die!? Thats the way of terrorist thinking and shouldn't be your way.
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    Altay & Turkish Main Battle Tank Programs

    It is strange that many of you here are writing about "pockets" or "friends pockets" of some politicians especially of Erdogan or his party but none of you never explained how is it possible that Otokar owner, even so patriotic as you write, has set that high price tag that even a potential...
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    Turkish Politics & Internal Affairs

    Can somebody inform me a bit about Orhan Pamuk pls? Is he Turk or Kurd, muslim or alevi or atheist, kemalist or other political thinking etc? Strangely you can read so much about him, his books or partial thinkings in western media but there are absolutly no info which would answer my few...
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    Turkish Peace Operations in Syria (Operation Olive Branch) Updates & Discussions

    Best regards and support for TSK from Bosnia.
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    TF-X Turkish Fighter & Trainer Aircraft Projects

    Why do you bother your self about Europians at all actually? Why do you always "forget" that they'll never be your friends, this includes the Brits but Brits they will still do some jobs with you due to Brexit and they need to be involved everywhere and make some money... Why don't you just play...
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    Turkey to develop new medium combat aircraft

    Great news from TR, I just hope Turkey will close the gap with engines in all areas ASAP to be really independant from western monopol.
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    Turkish Land Vehicle Programs

    that truck looks great, whats the model name, any link to take a closer look to it?
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    TF-X Turkish Fighter & Trainer Aircraft Projects

    where can I buy that nice model???
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    Turkish Unmanned Vehicle Programs

    Bayraktar doesn't look so impressive as Anka but it doesn't have to look impressive, it has to fulfil its missions which are for sure not same as Ankas so who cares actually how it looks like. As we can read both are performing their missions well especially Bayraktar as it was much earlier...
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    T-129 Atak & Turkish Attack Helicopter Programs

    I would really appreciate if somebody could summarize clear differences between Atak-1 and Atak-2 and 8 tone version, Anka and Anka-I and few more info about that 10 tone multi-purpose helicopter. It's a bitconfusing as I'm not sure if Atak-2 and mentioned 8 tone version are same or really...
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    Turkish Aviation Programs

    I really like last few pages in here, very interesting facts with very promising and great looking “toys” and very less useless comments from some people! Great news regarding Turkish defense industry, I just hope all these planed vehicles will really be introduced ASAP as I think Turkey will...
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