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That's what happens when you have weak leadership...Any Tom Dick or Harry can come and show your place.... Seriously guys just give me a one good reason why Gandhi choosed Nehru over Sardar Patel to lead our country....

Name even a single person In the world living or dead who even knew about the place called pakistan even 80 years ago forget about 5000 years...

Last time I read somewhere that they were asking for 3 Billion $ for these three frigates...

If you keep the junk(3rd Gen fighters) out then USN has more fighter jets in its inventory then all the airforces in the world except ofcourse of US airforce...

Ya that IAF also rejected F16IN which is superior to PAF's frontline fighter jet F16 Blk52....

Kya kare Indian Govt can't let Indian People to eat Grass so that it can spend that money on IaF Fancy Fighter jet... Nor do it want to have any all weather friend to finance all the fancy dream of our defence forces at the cost of our n sovereignty....

Thrust to weight ratio of Miraage 2000,Rafale,Gripen and F 18 E/F are also less then 1 so what do you think that these are also third Gen Fighters...

Forget about all this just ask them the difference between 3rd Gen Fighter jet and 4th Gen Fighter jet...Forget all that just them that which country produces Derby missile a)France B)US C) Russia....or. D) Britain...

All through I don't want our Govt to buy more then 36 rafale but at the end of the day you can't confirm that their will be no follow on order lokr in 1996 we ordered 50 Su 30Mk then on 2002 we ordered another 140 Su 30 Mki taking the order of Su 30Mki to 190 then in 2007 we ardered another 40...

That's because we need to invest on other areas also like ACC, Sub, Destroyers, Frigates not to forget our ISRO at end of the day we don't want to be dependent on any of our So Called All Weather Friend at the cost of our Self Respect and Sovereignty...

"History is written by the victors" Walter Benjamin.. What I mean is you are saying what had been told to you by the people who came out as winners in Afghan war...

As I have told you earlier their is no need to Induct LCA till it can perform both the roles of MIG 21 and Mig27.

We will be concern even If your army get extra bullet proof jackets forget about jf17....That is a part of defence preparedness. ...

Why should I replace 8 Million Dollars jet with 25 Million $ jet so it can perform same role that of my 8 Million$ jet did...

I don't know wetjer you know that or not but in forums when you reply in capital letters that means you are shouting..lagta meine tumhati Dukhti rag pe haath ralh diya hai.Tujhe mirchi lagi to mein kya karooo..

Ya Jf 17 is joint project between China and Pakistan with Romanian desiegn(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAR_95 ) Russian Engine and pirated Russian Radar..

Ya the missions you are talking about even our SEPECAT Jaguar or Two decade old MIG 27 will be more then capable enough to accomplish those SO Called REAL Missions....

Damm its look like foriegn companies are throwing alot of cash on these prestitutes....Btw can somebody pls explain to me how can induction of lca Tejas to replace three decade old Mig 21(flying coffin) or Mig 27 can weaken the airforce...

Mein kbaad ki baat nhi ker rha tha...

That because at present you don't have any other option...Let me explain since 2000 PAF has aquired 18 F16 Blk 52 +60 Jf17 and on the other hand IAF &IN has aquired 230 Su30Mki +10 Mirage 2000 +45 Mig 29K... Now you can understand why your Govt is investing so much in jf17.... Arre isse mujhe...