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But isnt the issue at hand that due to the close proximity of Indian and Pakistani air bases to the border, the opportunity for BVR engagements will be far less than what is expected in other parts of the world. The IAF will surely be able to track aircraft as soon as they take off, but they...

Hey thats a cool achievement, thank you for all the thanks youve dished out to all members, it is nice to be appreciated, in my opinion at least, so your positive and motivating contribution is highly appreciated by many Im sure, myself included. Congrats!

These threads are the best, people arguing their people are less barbaric than others...There is no scale for being barbaric, either you are, or youre not. Pakistanis, Israelis, Indians, Palestinians, Americans and just about every other nation on earth has been involved in multiple cases of...

Wouldn't a fixed probe not add to the RCS of the aircraft? It would make having a V shaped nose become redundant to a certain extent, with a big probe sticking out. Should be really interesting to see what the block 2 looks like.

Your are using flawed logic my friend. We need planes now, the only option is either the j-10a or f-16 block 52. The j-10b plan is still there, but it is of little relevance at this point because the plane is still under development. While that process plays out, we cant just sit around hoping...

Well thats a problem we all face time to time dont we? When the present is so bleak, people seek refuge in the past or future. Our nation is dealing with such a tough time, it is far easier to just overlook it and focus on some future date when everything will be solved. I, myself, have been...

I dont understand why getting the j-10a or an upgraded version of the fighter is such a death blow, people are seriously overreacting. We are in desperate need of new fighters to replace an aging fleet of mirages and f-7s (in the technology department atleast). These j-10s are exactly what we...

oh snap! I was under the impression the IAF was just going to sit there and let Pakistan do whatever it likes...seriously guys. Does a guy need to impart false bravado when he is describing HIS job. What else would the IAF do but retaliate and do so in a significant manner? I am just amazed...

Ive lived a great portion of my life in Canada and honestly find it hard to relate to the sentiments of our thread starter. If you were living in some crazy closed off society, instead of one the great melting pots of the world, I would understand if you were so ignorant about Pakistani girls...

The weakness of our navy leaves us in much the same spot as we were in all those years ago, which shows are leadership has learned nothing. A country cant fight a war on such a handicap and come out on top. The lack of communication between the airforce and the army or navy has cost us greatly...

Oh thats awesome, well deserved yaar, keep up the good work!

In our haste to voice our displeasure over this procurement (me included), why are we overlooking the already present infrastructure, training, and understanding of the platform PAF has in regards to the f-16s. The more advanced jf-17s and j-10s wil take years to deploy in an effective...

If this is true, it would seem logical since we bought a higher number of twin seaters than is normal...it would make most sense to do so in order to prepare a larger number of pilots as more f-16s join the service. But Im not sure if further f-16 purchases are a good idea, do we really want to...

There is truth to what you are saying but Musharraf didnt create a stable situation as much as he represented stability in himself. You are looking at it completely wrong, Musharraf, as a military leader inspired greater confidence than the civilian leadership before and after him that always...

Oh man, another one of these threads. How can we enter a recession? What is this recession being judged against? We have never even had sustained growth, Pakistan's modern history is one of perpetual economic irrelevancy and recession. We have always been in recession, so unless the current...

Any country that shares such a massive border with another is going to come across as obsessive. Ethnic similarities, economic sustainability, border issues all play into it. Pakistan is obsessed with Afghanistan and India, much like India is obsessed with China and Pakistan...every country is...

There is an increasing amount of literature coming out of the US and the west regarding the lack of credentials for China to become a super power...this alone should prove the inevitability of the complete opposite. An economic giant China will become and many countries go through such booms...

You shouldnt pay attention to the amount of thanks you get. So many of your posts are so informative that in trying to decide which ones to thank, I end up taking the easy way out and not thanking at all.:P For us less informed individuals, your posts are a necessity to bridge the gap to the...

More than a few members have answered that question already. Since this was a joint project between PAF and CATIC, and didnt actually involve the Chinese air force, PLAAF has no vested interest in such a project and would probably prefer to induct j-11s and j-10s, projects that they did actually...

Ah now, this is another master stroke by the Pakistani military...see, now any future terrorist attacks will be blamed on American reluctance to pay endless amounts of aid. And when more attacks happen on the Afghani side, with the attackers coming from the Pakistani side, our military will once...