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China has helped Pakistan develop JF-17 on 50/5o finanance and 59/41 production basis,but final assembly is done in Pakistan.since China is not inducting this aircraft in their air force,Pakistan will also provide training and after sale service.

So,if Radar,EW suite,HMD/S and MICA bvr missiles from FRANCE,Engine from Russia or later on from China( ws-13) with Landing Gears and Ejection seats are coming from England ,what is coming from Pakistan, apart from an assembled machine from Kamrah?. 0

Agree,but some naive people might take it seriously.

Very accurate observation,agree %100.

As long as people like you exist,Pakistan will always be at the mercy of feudal thugs and Islam-bezar siyasi badmuaash like zardari and his like.

If it is only hiring of retired defence personnel for the "protection" of Saudi and Bahrini regimes ,then its better Pakistan help them otherwise India will be more than happy to oblige.

Very good point...............but was it not Agosta Submarine?.

The tragedy of present situation of our divine country started when Jinnah (RA) admitted the members of Unionist Party(Feudal of Punjab & Sindh),into Muslim League against the far sighted advice of Allama Iqbal(RA).These Landlords were the creation of British Colonial Govt,and were not sincere...

........along with this dumb *** nawaz shareef who picked this low life TALINGA Musharraf?.

It has become a kind of general practice with our neighbour China to offer Pakistan their weapon(albeit untested,unproven)as a gift or to buy on friendly terms,knowing fully well that Pakistan will test and evaluate the weapon very thoroughly and then inform the Chinese about hundreds of...

Hey chief!

PTI supporters should have stayed away from this protest demonstration as well.It was a protest for Kashmir by Kashmirees joind by well wishers .Apportunist like madari's bucha jamoora or showbaz were not welcomed there.

Barrister sultan mahmood a ppp agent is responsible for inviting this feudal family s Bucha Jamoora of madari aka zardari.shame on these opportunists.

Guizouh Aircraft Industries are developing WS-13 engine and thats where most of Pakistani Engineers are working.

I have been reading between the lines that WS-13 is a joint joint venture and a considerable number of pakistani engineers are members of the R&D team of the engine program which started at CAC chengdu in 1999.The engine will be built in pakistan for j-17 as well as J-31.

@610....Mastan Sahab I as a non professional and a mere enthusiastic reader do agree with your assessment of naive politico/strategic thinking of our defence think tanks.Please tell us what is your opinion about and the relevance of Swedish Grippen which falls in the same Category as JF-17 in...

JF-17mkIII,with aesa radar,irst,link 16,ifr ,latest version SD-10 and 23500 bhp WS-13A/E engine will be a very capable machine in the hand of a well trained pilot to counter any but 5th Gen fighter,i am sure.

English is perhaps the only language you can speak in ,without being educated.

I was referring to #5 post " Indian cultural"invasion in cenimas of Pakistan.Point was that Indian movies these days do not depict indian culture,only commercial carrycaturre mixture of hippy hoppy happenings. In a cultural context Munto, Sahir or even Shakil Badauin (Man tarpat hari...

Indian movies, prior to independence were mostly written by muslims and were generally based on Islam influenced culture.After independence, with fading of Islamic influence Indian culture came under the the subjugation of western civilisation in general and Bollywood in particular.Indian...