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    Indonesia Economy Forum

    Hope that they use to proofing their competense in this area(sorry to say, i had read many bad news about the quality of their construction).
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Actually i do agree with you that these later moves are seem serious, i also do agree with our comrade said that these all about resourses, About countries fight in getting new resourses for the economic and development. So will these be start of the New world's war, it depend on how the...
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    Vietnam Defence Forum

    I am glad to see that both Your two goverment could work hand in hand to resolve the Scs problem and then creating more peaces and harmony world. I am very happy to see that someday in future our children will hail the day of peaces treaty in these area.
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I agree with these old saying but at present time USA USE to see Indonesia not as their litle agent again, but if they still stand stood on their old assume about Indonesia, i think it is time for us to say "hey dude let us discuss/cooperate as two man,; you have interest as mine too, let us see...
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    We, as a nation have been seen how they behave on and with us for these 70ties year. I do believe that there are many many "good will man" in USA, but it seem that the motive of their goverment in " Cooperate nor invest" here is just to use us as their agent that must serve their interest. Hope...
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    If USA want to pivot Indonesia, i hope they use to throwing away their double standar in every side. Indonesia is a Fully Nation as they are, it consist of many different background and rase as they are. Start everything with Trust and not deceit, built a mutual relation in win win aprouching...
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Welcome back bro. Could behave and conducting the positive one? One thing i ever knew that human used to learn from his experiences, so could as as humanbeing learn from the last one. Who ever you are, what ever your motive; please stop these troll any morem
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Thanks. I am happy to see that.
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Thanks. I got the point
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Bro, actually i was ever disappoint to hear that we choose cbg then kilo, but when i understand it purpose and their offering, then i know that this is the best for us now. hope for the better and more advant subs is right and it is always our will as human. In my opinion what you said actually...
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    We have a dream to have many modern weapons; we want to have more then 60 subs that actively patroll in and around our sea teritory. We can buy it from any other country but it always better to built them by ourself.
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I think we are agree that CBG now is the very proudly suitable Sub for us, especially when we understand that this sub is the golden brigde for our proudly nation to be independently self made weapons. No matter how or what another thought about it, we are always proud for her.
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Yeah !That Right When we can built our strategic weapon, we have no worry with" Embargo".
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I me Sorry i mean it is better to have our own anjing kampung then none
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I am 100% agree with you and very supporting our advantage in design, not only designing warship,but also missile, uav, rocket engines and even 5th Jet as Lfx but you see the rest. But I am agree with you and hope it be done.
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Yeah, there are many who were thought that it was the err-wrong decition, but as for me it is better to have "my own anjing kampung" that none. Any one who are now running be start with be creeping
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I do agree with you, but to designing the new one we ought to focus our resources on this while we knew, money beside the good will of the goverment/ user is our big problem. So In my opinion it better to used all energy in realizing the at hand proofing design. And in long run we can do rest...
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I hope those capable private shipyard could be work together under the PT PAL to build more PKR IN NEAR FUTURE.
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    Indonesia Economy Forum

    We as a nation need to make a great jumping metalurgy-engines know how as fast as we can that why i understand the Silmy's Job Changing/rotation from the advand Pindad Firm. Good Job Sim!
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    Indonesia Economy Forum

    I am really hope that under the Silmi Karim's leadership Pt Barata could be transform into modern and profesional firm.
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